Demand! Nissan Spec racing

[moyea]

Why the hell is there no Nissan spec racing!?! What happened to the Spec SE-R? Why isn't there a Z series?! Or Nissan challenge series?

If they can have a gay *** Honda challenge, we should demand some kind of Nissan only series. Dont just throw us into the mix with some goofy touring series.

[sr20goofus]

there arnt enough nissans racing to justify a spec series. Usually at the most....there are 5 SE-R's and 1-2 240sx in a NASA race. Honda challenge usually has upwards of 10-15 on a normal basis. 300ZX and 350Z drivers all want to time attack instead of W2W, its too intimidating for most people to consider W2W.

so to put it really blut even though im a nissan driver, most nissan drivers dont have enough balls to actually join a spec series once its been developed.

[moyea]

SE-R seemed to be running strong in Cali until it was disbanded but I guess it wasn't that strong if it was removed. I think maybe if a series was created it might encourage a bigger nissan response.

[Stripes]

i would do it

[n00b240]

there arnt enough nissans racing to justify a spec series. Usually at the most....there are 5 SE-R's and 1-2 240sx in a NASA race. Honda challenge usually has upwards of 10-15 on a normal basis. 300ZX and 350Z drivers all want to time attack instead of W2W, its too intimidating for most people to consider W2W.

so to put it really blut even though im a nissan driver, most nissan drivers dont have enough balls to actually join a spec series once its been developed.

Hey sr20goofus, where do you instruct at for the HPDE's. In some time Im going to be road trippin, and wouldnt mind a stop where you are at to pay up for some lessons, since you do drive a 240. Im all bout that seat time

[sr20goofus]

i would do it

see we can get 100 people to say the same thing guaranteed. Once these people do a few HPDE's a bunch will drop the idea i fear of damaging the car, more will drop the idea because of finances, others just wont enjoy tracking their car is such close conditions as w2w demands in a race, then there are a few left who may race but they wont all be at the same skill level, very wide variety.

One you lay out all the possibilities and realize how the masses react to the track and such it just seems less feasible to support and keep up, same exact reason why the se-r cup fizzed out.

I see lots of people come to the track all gung-ho to race and drive and then i never see them at events again. not to rain on yor parade, but its just easier and more fun to race with a big group that will always be there, Performance Touring (points system classification)

[sr20goofus]

Hey sr20goofus, where do you instruct at for the HPDE's. In some time Im going to be road trippin, and wouldnt mind a stop where you are at to pay up for some lessons, since you do drive a 240. Im all bout that seat time

I am usually at East coast events, Summit Point, VIR, Mid-Ohio with a variety of car clubs, NASA, MDA, PCA, Trackdaze.

If you decide to do any of these events ,you can request me as an instructor, or we can organize something at the track if ti doesnt work that way. If you happen to be by any of those tracks at the same time i am there I am also more than happy to give ride alongs on track during my sessions.

May17-18 - Summit Point Shenendoah23-25 - VIR Full

June21-22 - Summit Point Main

July19-20 - GINGERMAN RACEWAY

AugustMid-Ohio Raceway

October4-5 - Summit Point Shenendoah11-12 - Summit Point Main

November1-2 - Summit Point Shenendoah__________________

[Stripes]

see we can get 100 people to say the same thing guaranteed. Once these people do a few HPDE's a bunch will drop the idea i fear of damaging the car, more will drop the idea because of finances, others just wont enjoy tracking their car is such close conditions as w2w demands in a race, then there are a few left who may race but they wont all be at the same skill level, very wide variety.

One you lay out all the possibilities and realize how the masses react to the track and such it just seems less feasible to support and keep up, same exact reason why the se-r cup fizzed out.

I see lots of people come to the track all gung-ho to race and drive and then i never see them at events again. not to rain on yor parade, but its just easier and more fun to race with a big group that will always be there, Performance Touring (points system classification)

if its track driving then i'm in. doesn't matter who's there or how many there are or what kind of experience anyone has. as long as i have a car to take to the track, i'm gonna race it.

[sr20goofus]

if its track driving then i'm in. doesn't matter who's there or how many there are or what kind of experience anyone has. as long as i have a car to take to the track, i'm gonna race it.

see thats the thing, everyone has to have a decent bit of experience to even get a race license and to even be considered competitive in a race group. No regular track cars are ever going to be allowed to "race" in a spec league, they have to be full out race cars conforming to the rules of the specific spec group, that way no car has 100more hp than the next and all cars are in general within the same capabilities.

[Stripes]

yea i can't really argue that. but that is exactly how track racing should be; competitive.

[moyea]

That is the point of spec racing. Driver skills 60 % and car tuning 40%.

It has to start somewhere, just like spec miata and all the others, it started with a bunch of yahoos bringing their roadsters to track days. As it became evident to the sanctioning bodies that these cars were getting real popular on the track, they sat down and came up with some rules for the series.

There is definitely a Nissan presence on the track scene. I've never seen an event that hasn't had at least half-a-dozen Nissan/Infinities participating. I'm thinking they could run something similar to the Honda challenge, just without the crappy Hondas. Basically a Touring group containing only Nissan/Datsun/Infinity makes, broken into a point class system. Because I don't know where you're at; but, we got like only three people running in the IT groups. I guarantee if news got around about a Nissan spec/group, fools would be tripping over themselves to participate. Maybe NICO or Nissan Sport could host such events to get the ball rolling.

[nismofly]

SE-R seemed to be running strong in Cali until it was disbanded but I guess it wasn't that strong if it was removed. I think maybe if a series was created it might encourage a bigger nissan response.

se-r cup had 5-7 cars in cali tops, most of the time it was more like 3-5

HC will sometimes take up an entire run group

HC id say is 2nd only to spec miata for being popular, not terribly expensive, but ridiculously fun and good for building valuable experience

[sr20goofus]

se-r cup had 5-7 cars in cali tops, most of the time it was more like 3-5

HC will sometimes take up an entire run group

HC id say is 2nd only to spec miata for being popular, not terribly expensive, but ridiculously fun and good for building valuable experience

not to mention that the HC field tends to be fairly fast......faster than almost all nissans at the track events. the H1 cars run faster times these days than the AI guys in their mustangs.

[nismofly]

yeah i still find it amusing how people can talk **** about them when they run that fast, id love an h1 dc2 integra gsr with a k series hybrid of some sort