Deep dish rims sitting flush with wide overfenders?

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I want to know if a 18x9.5 rim will sit flush with a D-Max 25mm front overfender, and if a 18x12 rim will sit flush with a D-max 50mm rear overfender? The off set's for the rims are -10 front and -14 rear, if that helps. Oh and the car this will all sit on is a '92 Nissan 240SX coupe with silvia front end. Thanks.


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....offset there scooby?

get the wheel too, just a rim won't be much help.

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I'm pretty clueless when it somes to wheels. So what do you mean?

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He's making fun of you for calling wheels "rims"

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the offset of the wheels...the + or - number in the description.

jesus...I think we've got an article on basic wheel and tire fitment.

get a metric tape measure and a calculator.

here ya go.

http://www.nicoclub.com/tech/wheel-tech.shtml

go study grasshopper.

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Oh yea! I gave you the offset the first time. The front is -10 and the rear is -14.

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the fronts will look nice...but youd be pushing it with the rears, youd have to play around with the fenders for sure to get things looking right

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Thanks man, I figured that I would of had to pull or roll the fenders.

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you dont roll overs, they come as is and you have to play with the fiberglass to get them where you want them...i guess you could call it a pull but its not done the same way

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nismofly wrote:the fronts will look nice...but youd be pushing it with the rears, youd have to play around with the fenders for sure to get things looking right
actually, I disagree mr fly :P

The rears should be fine, you will probably need to run -2 to -3 camber w/ a slightly stretched tire, but 50mm fenders are HUGE.

The fronts will be pushing it, I would suggest running the 40mm dmax front fenders, unless you don't care about rubbing the fender or you won't be that low.

Currently, on my car, I was running x9 +3 & x10.5 +15 (more or less). I have wide front fenders (+20mm) & pulled rear fenders (more or less +15-20mm compared to stock).

The rears, I have only about 1-1.5 negative camber & w/ stretched 265's, it clears everything fine. With your x12 setup, you will be just around 30-40mm more out than my pulled fenders, which will tuck easily w/ another degree of camber. I doubt you'll be running 335's or more (even then may be fine depending on your car).

The fronts however, I rub all over the place, partially from the wide tire, but the rim itself is right on the edge of the fender & I'm already running around 3 to 3.5 negative camber - I'm basically maxed out on the coilover setting (removed camber bolts on the spindle side).

With a stretched tire, I'm thinking 235 or maybe even 255, you will probably be okay, but it is harder to fit the front tire than rear in both our cases.

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i dont know how you can be that bad on fronts, if theyre truly 20mm wider than stock people run 17x9 +20 all the time with just a roll, even with a 235 and only like -2 camber in front it works, and yours should fit like 17x9 +23 would fit stock fenders

but for him yeah i think i ran the numbers wrong, because i do agree something wider than 20 would be better...a true 30mm, *perhaps* a 40mm but then youre pushing it, although you could massage those a little so theyre a little under 40 and make it look nice

the rears, with a massage, more stretch than fronts, and more camber, can work, but its still more work than fitting the fronts under 20 overs...

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yea... about x9+20 on stock rolled fenders w/ a good amount - i.e. at least 2.5 negative... I'm running x9+3 w/ 265's on +20 fenders. It's mostly the 265's - if I ran 245, maybe 255 - I'd be okay. But I'm already at the very limit of the fenders.

So now you are going into x9.5 -13, you are extending another 22mm, just about an inch. No way will you clear.

Here is why the fronts are more work - in my opinion as I've run the ones I've mentioned.

Also keep in mind he is running wide 18's - that does make a difference in wheel height.

Rears:- only clearance issue is the rear is the fender- you can go really low, basically max out the coilover drop & still be fine as long as you don't hit the fender- you won't hit the inside of the wheel well because there is a lot of clearance

Fronts- you can hit the fender- you can hit the rear firewall- you can hit the front wheel well- you can hit the inside wheel- you can hit the harness / chassis area even when you tuck the harness- you can hit a side mount intercooler like I am if you have one- depending on wheel width & offset, you can hit the tie rods, coilovers, etc.

Some of the issues can be solved w/ camber, caster (not so much if you have a smic), tire size, etc - but the front always maxes out on adjustments to clear in my experience way before the rear has any issues.

Nismofly, as much as I agree with most of your advice, I seriously doubt you have ever fit anything very aggressive on your car. I have run several different sizes, not even as aggressive as what the OP posted, but have already run into much more problems in the front, than rear - rear I've never had any major problem.

With the OP's current/future setup on my car, I can fit the rears w/ very little work running a 285-295 tire. Should be slammable height wise too.

With the fronts, I can fit them with a 235-245 tire, but they will be sticking out about 1" even after I have maxed negative camber - the stretch will be very close to hitting the fender; I'd probably have to raise the car some.

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Thank you guys so much for the advice! The reason I asked this question in the first place, is because I saw this guy running the same measurements for wheels on his s13 as I want on mine. The only difference is that I'm not getting the wheel that he has.

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Tommy Roberts S13

That thing is hawt!!!!



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