Deceiving winter starting.

[1_Sleek_Versa]

Hi!

This morning the little versa did not want to start, I had to litterally floor the gas pedal. Took me 3 times to start the engine.

It was -19 celsius outside this morning but I parked the car last night at 10 pm coming from an hour and a half drive. I am pretty upset about this car.

This car is NEW. Just hit 7000 km, SL with CVT. I bought this brand new car for reliability and fuel economy. As for now the car is far from meeting both these standards. (Mediocre starting and 24 mpg hwy)

Before buying this car I owned a 1997 Cutlass Supreme with 244 000km on the clock. At -31, 4 days without moving, the car started with the remote starter and that with a 6 year old battery. The versa is 10 hours at -19 and doesn't start.

Guess I'll have to talk to the dealer because I only have two payments done (yes I got 100 days without payment) and I don't care about losing them. I'll just throw the keys back.

I'll give the little car another chance, if tonight it doesn't start it'll be a one way towing to Nissan without coming back. And me a one way bus ride to Toyota dealer on Monday.

Sorry for the long post.

[NV Lady]

Hi there,

It might not be weather related. While I don't know much about engines, my 2009 S just had to have a new fuel pump and regulator put in for the same problem. I had less than 2000 miles on it when it happened.

This is copied from another post: From the Nissanhelp website:" NTB07-0942007-2008 NISSAN VERSA; LONG CRANK TIMEBEFORE ENGINE START

The engine needs to be cranked for a long time (4-10 seconds) before the engine starts.AndFuel system pressure after engine shutoff drops lower than 200 kPa (29 psi) after 30 minutes time. "-----srellim's note:The TSB calls for replacement of the fuel pressure regulator , not the fuel pump."

You can read the entire post at zer...age=2

Good luck!

[Bubs daddy]

Quote »Guess I'll have to talk to the dealer because I only have two payments done (yes I got 100 days without payment) and I don't care about losing them. I'll just throw the keys back.

[/quote]You're going to lose more than two payments. You're going to lose about $5000 in depreciation.

[Slither]

Its up to you. If your romance with the new car is souring maybe time for vie sans V?

I've had my V 2+ years and its always started and I'm parked outside at work. The Yaris is better on gas than the V - I know for a fact my sister and sister-in-law both have one. Oil is going down - better to have the room and not have to pop-up the backseat headrests everytime you enter the Yaris?

The Sentra I had on a 4 year lease before always started and never gave any problems.

You buying independent cheap gas laced with tolouene?

[1_Sleek_Versa]

"You're going to lose more than two payments."

No just two payments. They keep car, I keep my money. No more payments will be taken on my account. Not even worried about it. OR just give me car that's worth what I am paying for. I don't car paying 350$ a month for a new car. Paying 350$ for a car that refuses to start no thanks.

"You buying independent cheap gas laced with tolouene?"

Always at Shell. Hell it's the only one in town.

[AG]

"You're going to lose more than two payments."

No just two payments. They keep car, I keep my money. No more payments will be taken on my account. Not even worried about it. OR just give me car that's worth what I am paying for. I don't car paying 350$ a month for a new car. Paying 350$ for a car that refuses to start no thanks.

"You buying independent cheap gas laced with tolouene?"

Always at Shell. Hell it's the only one in town.

Unfortunately it doesn't work this way. If you can find in the contract a line saying something like "The car would start in -19 C", then you can get what you want, otherwise no. The reason you loose money is that dealership would buy you car back at a reduced price (depreciation). Another possibility is that they would check if there is something wrong with the car, and if yes, repair it under warranty. Anyways, good luck with resolving the problem.

[Bubs daddy]

Quote »No just two payments. They keep car, I keep my money. No more payments will be taken on my account. Not even worried about it. OR just give me car that's worth what I am paying for. I don't car paying 350$ a month for a new car. Paying 350$ for a car that refuses to start no thanks.[/quote]You're in for a disappointment.

The dealer doesn't hold the note to your car, the bank does. The bank has a lien.

This will be fixed under warranty. They will not give you another car nor will they take your car back unless you initiate action if your province has some sort of lemon law, arbitration and you meet the standard for such action.

If you just stop paying, it's your own credit that will be affected.

[BBISHOPPCM]

Sounds to me like you have the common fuel pump problem. They'll fix your car, and send you on your way. To abandon a new car for one minor problem is ludicrous! Every new car ever built is likely to have at least one minor problem. I have to admit, my two year and 50,000 mile old Versa has been perfect from day one.

[Slither]

Watch the Quebecor seperate from the Versa..

Adieu Nissan

[frankoV]

Unfortunately it doesn't work this way.

It does if you have the "1 year 20,000 km" bring-it-back rider that was included in my Nissan-financed purchase.

Not hat I can use it even if I wanted to now.

[Bubs daddy]

1 year rider bring it back program? What's the fine print? They would give you the full value for the car and give you cash back? Full value on a trade in? I've never heard of this.

I know Saturn gives you 30 days or 1500 mies to return a new vehicle on a another vehicle. You just can't return it and get your money back.

[They Call Me Whatshisname]

My car is still brand new (has 98 miles on it atm). I live in southern texas and i drove to work tonight. The temp is about 35ish with wind chill which i dont believe effects cars? Anyways, it was sitting for about 7 hours and as I came out to it at 10:30pm I went to start it and it cranked for about 4 seconds. It completely shocked me.

I drove a family owned '91 escort and an '07 vw rabbit for a year and a half and neither of them did that. I then remembered this thread and was debating whether it happened just because it was still new or if there was something wrong with it.

[AG]

It does if you have the "1 year 20,000 km" bring-it-back rider that was included in my Nissan-financed purchase.

Not hat I can use it even if I wanted to now.

Can you find a link, please? I do not believe that they would give the whole amount back. It would just mean a very cheap rent car for one year. Nissan would have too many returns with that and therefore too many losses. I think there should be some requirements and consequences.

[1_Sleek_Versa]

Update!!!

This morning the engine would not start at all. The starter and all the 12 volt equipment seemed to work fine though. It just didn't start.

As I said previously, the car is now off on the towing to the dealer. Just called the service manager telling him about the problem and just get it fixed.

So to go to work I took my girlfriend's old beat up Z24 with 200 000km that was stuck under 3 feet of snow since a week and a half and started like a charm. The Versa was my first and last Nissan I guess.

Also I'm financed with Nissan, I hope I have the 20000km bring-back-your-POS included. Will look at my contract.

I will keep you guys updated on the problem!!!

[BBISHOPPCM]

I just can't believe someone would swear off an entire manufacturer over just one minor problem!

[Knightro2]

Sounds like he might have other beefs with Nissan then. 1 issue and you're out? If lived by that I wouldn't have a car because I would like any manufacturer. This isn't a big deal. It's under warranty. Take it in, get it fixed, and you're finished.

[biggie]

I just can't believe someone would swear off an entire manufacturer over just one minor problem!

Especially over a car that isn't enitrely Nissan's. Definately some over-reacting. Will be amazed if the dealer allows the return.

[frankoV]

1 year rider bring it back program? What's the fine print? They would give you the full value for the car and give you cash back? Full value on a trade in? I've never heard of this.

I know Saturn gives you 30 days or 1500 mies to return a new vehicle on a another vehicle. You just can't return it and get your money back.

Sorry . . . busy life at Christmas time.

The one year rider is "walk-away" -- no cash back -- it would have been a "rental" . . .

Wouldn't do it on a large down payment . . . but if he'd given a small down payment and had only made two payments he wouldn't be out of pocket much.

[SpeedyV09]

Ummm... I understand your frustration and I agree without everyone else to just relax have it checked out by the dealer but I am pretty sure that a cold start isn't the problem.

I live in MN for about 4 day the temperature never went above 0 car was outside for 2 days when I started it up it was -13°F (no joke) car started up NO PROBLEM, no long crank nothing out of the ordinary.