dead clutch???

[240SX=fun4me!]

i just bought my Nissan 3 days ago. It moves, fast for me atleast, but i have noticed one thing that is bothering me: It seems to hesitate when i hit the gas every new gear, except when downshifting. I'm definitely driving my 5-speed correctly, so that is the confusing part. what i mean is, that it seems like for about one second, the car lulls around, and then it picks up and grips the power. even when it is *lulling* though, it is accelerating. In case ya guys need ta know, I'm running a stock ka24de 93 Nissan *tell me if thas go

If the clutch is gone, is there anyway to adjust the clutch myself, or is it hydraulic?

Thanx

[groundhogday1976]

Your clutch is hydraulic. The only adjustments you can make, as far as I see in the FSM, are adjusting the pedal and bleeding the fluid lines. When you shift, do the rpms rise, but it feels like the car isn't accelerating? Or does the engine just not rev immediately after a shift?

[240SX=fun4me!]

It just doesnt pick up. if youve had a dirtbike with a power reed b4, it feels like that. It accelerates, but when you hit the ban rpm range it takes off. So it feels like it doesnt grip power and take off right away.

[pball]

Not the clutch, if it were the engine revs freely while the car doesnt move. Is it definitely after every shift, or more from the low end of the rev range to the high end? KA24s in the 240 ramp up power to about 4000rpm or so, take off to 5500, then drop like a rock to 6500. If you lug after every shift regardless of how fast the engine is spinning, I have no idea what the problem is.

[trpower7]

I'm so glad people are using quotes from "The Prince" in their signatures......we even have a member named Machiavelli (well, close)........

[Sleep]

I had the same exact problem. Then my clutch starting slipping just from hitting the gas in mainly 3rd and 4th gear. I JUST put a new ACT Organic performance street clutch in today and man what a difference. There is NO more hesitation in the beggining of first, or after shift. I have only driven it 50 miles so far so i can't really beat on it too hard, but its very nice.

The car feels like a rocket again through the gears, AND thats without shifting hard at all, thats babying it for 500 miles

I have an xtra clutch i got with it, same exact clutch, you would just need the ACT heavy duty pressure plate, T.O. bearing (like $10), and pilot bearing ($8).

there is a thread about it in the "Buy/sell/trade" forumhttp://www.nissaninfiniticlub....33767

[D-UNIT]

But he doesn't have power. If the clucth was bad the revs would increase rapidly without him feeling a ounce of acceleration. Especially in the low rpms flooring it or going uphill in a high gear etc. Smells fishy. burnt fishy!

[pball]

trpower7, i appreciate youre appreciation of my sig...but Machiavelli never said "the ends justify the means", my sig is is the quote that gave rise to that myth. Its a lot more subtle and devious... Sorry if i came off snide or arrogant, its still early..Read The Republic yet? I havent found any sig-worth quotes, but im only about 1/2way through.

To stay sort of on-topic..a burnt clutch *always* slips, I had a totally toasted one for about 2 months. 240SX=fun4me never said it slips, it just doesnt pick up (i have a 91 KX250 with a power reed, I know exactly what he means) - believe it or not, just replacing the fuel filter can help a lot with a boggy engine, at least it made a very noticeable difference on mine.

[Sleep]

Sorry to say this, but i owned the car for 3 yeas now. When i got it there wasnt an ounce of "Hesitation". After 50,000 miles of spanking hondas and other non turbo 4's and 6's, my clutch starting weakening. It DIDNT START SLIPPING till about a month ago, but i could feel alot of hesitation between shifts, and throughout first and second gear. I thought it was my motor just getting old, but now that i got that clutch in yesterday, I WAS VERY WRONG

It was DEFINITELY the clutch. I have NO hesitation whatsoever now.

Just because a clutch doesn't slip, doesn't mean its still holding all the torque the KA puts out.

Sorry to say this guys, but your wrong

[trpower7]

While Machiavelli didn't say the exact words "the ends justifies the means" in "The Prince", it's a quote he was often creditted with when he would advice young Lorenzo DeMedici, and when asked very late in his life whether he should be creditted with it he replied in a fashion that while the basic principle was correct it could very easily be misused in the hands of men less wise (and to be fair, I think I'd deem 99.9% of the current population very "less wise" according to Machiavelli's standards)

I've read the Republic, although it was last year. The Republic is not very quotable, Plato tends to take whole paragraphs to express what he thinks. Milton is quotable, Dostoevsky, Tolstoy if you like wry social commentary, ****ens has a few spots of clever wit, etc......

[240SX=fun4me!]

yeah, it is doing what Sleep said. Same exact thing. Are there any good double plate clutches out there? Since i am gonna turn this thing into a power beast eventually, and whats the difference between a six and 12 spring setup?

[pball]

You dont need a double-disc clutch. I dont think there are any for the 240SX anyway - I know ACT and SPEC dont make them, NISMO doesnt as far as I know either. Springs...well, a street clutch has a two-part disc that has some rotational play between the faces. The hub of the clutch has springs (6 or 12) that will allow the faces to rotate against each other a little bit and soak up the shock of engagement. You can picture it in your mind pretty easily if you know how a car clutch works, if not check out howstuffworks, REALLY good description. 12 spring setups, IIRC, have a second set of stiffer springs coiled inside the bigger ones, to stiffen up the hub and eliminate a lot of the looseness. If youre serious about making a Beast though, shop around for a race disc. Theyre just a solid piece of metal with 4 or 6 fully metallic pads, look sort of like metallic brake pads. SPECs product page has a good collection so you can see the difference. An unsprung 6-pad disc is still usable on the street (but not the cast-iron drag disc), but you have to be a clutch master to keep from breaking your transmission or rear end - you cant just drop-clutch on upshifts, you have to let it grab a little smoother, and you *have* to double-clutch downshifts well. Unsprung discs and strong pressure plates can handle insane amounts of power - I think the ACT 4-puck race disc with the MaXX Extreme pressure plate is rated to something like 585 ft-lbs (6-puck race with Heavy Duty gives you 342ftlbs with no more pedal effort than stock), which is more than youre going to be able to milk from a KA or an SR. Just my $0.02 on the whole matter.

trpower7, youd say only 99.9% of the populace is not wise enough to deal with Niccolo properly? My, youre being charitable today..

[FDAPolice]

Have you replaced your spark plugs and wires?