DC SPORTS HEADER

Information on the naturally-aspirated KA24E and KA24DE engines.
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I wanted to know what you think about the dc sports header for the ka24de engine. is it better than the hotshot. I leaning towards the DC since its carb legal. I live in cali>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


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wickiewicked_240sx wrote:I wanted to know what you think about the dc sports header for the ka24de engine. is it better than the hotshot. I leaning towards the DC since its carb legal. I live in cali>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Honestly, I don't think anyone around here has the DC Sport header yet. It's fairly new, a bit more expensive than the Hotshot, which is a proven product.

Having said that, DC Sports seems to make good stuff and quality, if anything, should get better since being purchased by AEM. Besides, if I lived in CA, I'd get the CARB legal part!

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Jim Wof Tech is now making a header as well. I'm getting one for my ka.

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Man, a year ago Hot Shot was the only quality header, no there's at least 3...incredible.

So, how much is the Jim Wolf's unit and is it OK?

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Its on clearance now for $300. $350 normal. ceramic coated.I don't know what its like yet as my car is 400 miles away and is being rebuilt. There are pics on the JWT website.http://www.jimwolftechnology.c...D=411

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any specs on the dc sports header? I had to go with a pacesetter because thats the only 4-1 style I could find, and I didnt want a 4-2-1. The tiny primaries and collector of the hotshot unit really didnt add the power where I wanted it. KA's have enough torque already, companies should design products to raise the numbers in the weak area, the top end.

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does the pacesetter 4-1 really increase the top-end more than the hotshot/obx?

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no. hot shot is best right now

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Where
Ajax wrote:Its on clearance now for $300. $350 normal. ceramic coated.I don't know what its like yet as my car is 400 miles away and is being rebuilt. There are pics on the JWT website.http://www.jimwolftechnology.c...D=411
Where is it sold?

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that jim wolf one shure looks like obx, the dc one looks like the best one to me it seems to have truely equal length runners.

pic of dc sports, credit to an ebay seller

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the dc header is pretty good

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wickiewicked_240sx wrote:I wanted to know what you think about the dc sports header for the ka24de engine. is it better than the hotshot. I leaning towards the DC since its carb legal. I live in cali>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I've never had a problem smogging with the Hotshot header. I don't have any documentation on it and frankly, none of the four techs that have smogged my car have asked. Go with that.

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icnuthin wrote:no. hot shot is best right now
Would the DC Sports compare?

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wickiewicked_240sx wrote:I wanted to know what you think about the dc sports header for the ka24de engine. is it better than the hotshot. I leaning towards the DC since its carb legal. I live in cali>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I thought the hotshot was legal.

and don't get pacesetter, they rust.obx is up in the air, just buy at your own risk, it could be fine and it could suck bad, kinda like an ebay brand.

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Is the DC header for the s13 r s14 and does a cat still fit behind it? looks like it takes the place of the stock one... atleast on the s13.

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The Hotshot header is still 50-state legal. Nothing's changed in the month since we decided that in this thread.

TogueDrifter, you'll have to search as to whether or not the DC header is an S13 or S14 application. All headers, regardless of make, will retain the stock emissions equipment if the manufacturer wants its product to be street legal. As far as I know, there is no header for the KA engine (or any engine, for that matter) that automatically displaces the catalytic converter. That's what test pipes do.

What a header WILL do, if it's worth anything at all, is replace the stock exhaust manifold and the piping to the cat, but not the cat itself.

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masticatingcow wrote:The Hotshot header is still 50-state legal. Nothing's changed in the month since we decided that in this thread.
Interpret the first two answers on this FAQ as you will, but no CARB for the HotShot.

http://www.hotshot.com/freqaskedquestions.html

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<------- Schooled.

At least it was by another Brad. I stand corrected.

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greddy also makes or used to make ka24de headers. I have an equal length 4-1 stainless one, its my favorite off the shelf header. Shorter length and larger diameter primaries compared to pacesetter. The collector crack easily and needs to be modified. I believe it is s14 model but it is going in my datsun.

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I just got the 4-2-1 DC sports headers for my 91 240sx. Installation was very easy, and connected directly to the cat with no modifications. However, I wasn't able to fully connect the EGR tubing all the way. I kind of forced it in and probably stripped the header grooves. Does anyone know if a leak in the EGR system will change performance? Anyhow, the DC headers are lighter than the stock headers and are not very loud. I heard hotshot headers are loud!!!

s13....all the way!!!

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it says 12-14 horsepower gain

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Pacesetter headers suck arse. They are smaller and cheaply made. Hotshots are loud, never heard a DC Sports header.

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s13bluester wrote:I just got the 4-2-1 DC sports headers for my 91 240sx. Installation was very easy, and connected directly to the cat with no modifications. However, I wasn't able to fully connect the EGR tubing all the way. I kind of forced it in and probably stripped the header grooves. Does anyone know if a leak in the EGR system will change performance? Anyhow, the DC headers are lighter than the stock headers and are not very loud. I heard hotshot headers are loud!!!

s13....all the way!!!
Hey man, great! You should get some gasket maker to put on the EGR screw and around the top; a leak could lead to idle stutter and that kind of annoying stuff. Even if it's not happening now, with time a tiny leak could deteriorate into a bigger one.

Regarding the header, is it ceramic coated, is there a noticeable gain, how's it performed since installed?

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The header on jim wolf page is the hotshot. I ordered one from him for my s14. I was shocked when recieved and it said hotshot on the header. After bolting it on, i became extremely pleased with it. I recomend it 100%i will post a pic if wanted.

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If you check this thread and the topic on the forum which is 2 down from this one on Megan Headers everyone has agreed on the Hotshot header 100%. I am sure that DC makes a good product but I myself am a little skeptical of putting parts on my car that come from manufaturer that started off creating mods for HONDAS! If you have an S14 and want to run the Hotshot then you will need an aftermarket CAT. The actual cat for an S14 is located right after the intake manifold and that "Cat" looking thing located further down about underneath the drivers seat is actually a resonator. I too live in Cali but the nice thing is I am in the military and my car is registered in my home State so I don't have to worry about SMOG!

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a CAT right after the intake manifold? what are you talking about?

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wickiewicked_240sx wrote:I wanted to know what you think about the dc sports header for the ka24de engine. is it better than the hotshot. I leaning towards the DC since its carb legal. I live in cali>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I own the header it is bad ***........Have all the pics and info you need on this thread. I have the same name in that forum too can't miss me.http://www.club240.com/forums/...ber=1

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On the stock KA motor the stock exhaust manifold stops right after the steering arm. Then attached to it by 3 bolts is a CAT! It's big and round and then after that the pipe gets real small like 2" or something. The Cat looking device under the car about where the drivers seat is at is a resonator, if you take it off it's hollow! I am refering to the S14s though!

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ddgsxr504 wrote:If you check this thread and the topic on the forum which is 2 down from this one on Megan Headers everyone has agreed on the Hotshot header 100%. I am sure that DC makes a good product but I myself am a little skeptical of putting parts on my car that come from manufaturer that started off creating mods for HONDAS!
UUUHHHH, DC sports was bought out by AEM over a year and a half ago, there product line and there R&D have nothing to do with "JUST" Honda any more... They are now a diverse company that R&Ds for Mitsubishi, Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Chevy, Ford, and even the BOO BOO HYANDAI.........


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