Damned Clutch!!!

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Nismo Sr22GT
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ok, im extreamly pissed off, i raced a modded camry V6 w/ intake, exahust, port and polished head, and a "chip" he says, he's been talking a lot of **** about 240s being a peice of sh*t, when his camry has some different colored fenders, body kit, huge aluminum wing and all the riceboy stuff, anyways, we raced tonite, and i pulled on him first, second, and third, beat him by about half a car, all of a sudden, he pulls up and beats me by a damned fender, my clutch is slipping pretty bad,and after the race my clutch smelled really bad, do you guys think i should be able to beat him with a new clutch? i think if i got a much better start off,ill stay about a car away from him untill he starts catching up. Which clutch should i get? iplan on installing it myself, my mods are intake, hks exhaust, venom400 chip. i need more power, should i get a header? remove the cat? get s13 cams? i cant get the sr motor for about a year, childon the way(3 weeks!!!) any help will be greatly appreciated.future daddy, Emmanuel


RWDnot RICE
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My friend wife had a car with a V-6 and the v-6 engines do tend (mostly) to have more torque at higher speeds than a 4-cylinder, (better 60 -90 mph times than 4cyl.)so my guess would be get that new clutch and try to stay out ahead of him, after all those mods though you should be able to take him though.

Daunttless
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A clutch would probably help, so at least you have a bit more grip.

A header with your intake and exhaust would help a decent amount, not any earth shattering increases of course, but it would help. Removing the and putting in a test pipe will show a few horsepower increase, but nothing amazing either. If you are able to pull with a slipping clutch, I'd say you'll be ok just with the new clutch. Plus, with the way it sounds its not such a bad idea to replace it anwyays. : ) Congratulations on the child and enjoy your day!

Nismo Sr22GT
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thanks daunt, yea, ill be getting that new clutch hopefully in about a week, any reccomendations on which one? which stage? and this new clutch wont work on the sr transmission right? i mean, when i get the motor, will it fit on he sr?

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Just get a nice clutch, something that will support mid 200s for torque, that will make sure it remains streetable, and since you're going to swap the engine anyways, theres no point in paying for a more expensive clutch. When you replace it you might want to check the condition of your flywheel, and have it lightened and/or resurfaced while its out. The new clutch will not work on the SR20. None of your mods will transfer except your exhaust. Which is why I'm not sure if you want to get headers or not, as its 350 dollars that can go towards you SR swap. : ) Good Luck!

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Nismo Sr22GT wrote:ok, im extreamly pissed off, i raced a modded camry V6 w/ intake, exahust, port and polished head, and a "chip" he says, he's been talking a lot of **** about 240s being a peice of sh*t, when his camry has some different colored fenders, body kit, huge aluminum wing and all the riceboy stuff, anyways, we raced tonite, and i pulled on him first, second, and third, beat him by about half a car, all of a sudden, he pulls up and beats me by a damned fender, my clutch is slipping pretty bad,and after the race my clutch smelled really bad, do you guys think i should be able to beat him with a new clutch? i think if i got a much better start off,ill stay about a car away from him untill he starts catching up. Which clutch should i get? iplan on installing it myself, my mods are intake, hks exhaust, venom400 chip. i need more power, should i get a header? remove the cat? get s13 cams? i cant get the sr motor for about a year, childon the way(3 weeks!!!) any help will be greatly appreciated.future daddy, Emmanuel
what year camry is it? some of those v6's will haul. i guess i can see him staying close to you with all that stuff done to his car. but i dont understand why someone would want to spend that kinda money moddin up a CAMRY:rolleyes but whatever floats his boat. stupid in my opinion. but if you have a slippin clutch and you still pulled on him, you should be able to stay out in front if you got a new clutch. i think you should at least. and like daunt said, dont get the most expensive one out there!! get a decent one, and save that extra for that mean sr20:evilhaha

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Id say buy a act street strip clutch w/ what u have...u should be able to find one for 300 or less.

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the larger engine will pull harder at higher speeds, but the longer gearing in the camry will kill some of that. If your clutch is slipping then a new one will definately help if youre spinning off horsepower before it gets to the ground.

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You don't happen to remember what year Camry it was do you? My good friend has a 00 V6, and I had always assumed that his 200 horse engine would whallop me one good any day of the week, even though it is automatic. Neither of us have any mods, but every time I ride with him that longer gearing just makes it seem like he is pulling forever. And he drives it like he stole it, and I guess I don't watch his tach to see exactly how high he is revving the thing, my car (coffee can, no exhaust glasspack) is loud as thunder at 4-7 grand. Tell me if you think I can take him, if so I want to go beat him before I head off to college

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you're too slow to beat anyone except that accord TR. : )

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Eat me. Poor = Slow

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Plus I would think the gearing in your 240 will have you off the line much faster than him? (plus you could always hit a turn in the road and leave him behind, since camry's feel like yachts in a turn!!) LOL

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That was the school of thought I was coming from, if I could just get a healthy lead on him in teh beginnign I should be good.........

Nismo Sr22GT
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well, my car feels alot slower than before, i think i need new spark plugs and maybe wires, its feeling like it did when i bought it, after i changed the spark plugs, back in december or so, i felt a great improvement, also, my car used to bark the tires when downshiftng to3rd at 60mph when my clutch was good, and smoke the tires silly standing still, do you guys think i should get new spark plugs? i swapped them in december (they were the stock ngk ones when i changed them), which ones should i get? should i get accel wires? and also, i found out i can get a clutch with a lifetime warranty from Autozone for 110 bucks, Hi/Lo O'reilly=115, and AdvanceAuto Parts for 118, im not getting it from advance, everything i bought from them has either broken, worn out too quick or its just the wrong part, i might be getting the Oreily clutch, its a 1/3 cheaper than an Act stage1 clutch(3 bills) should i get this clutch or go with act stage 1 even tho its pricey? money is an issue right now, baby on the way, damn doc bills, any advise would be greatly appreciated.

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I don't know about the other clutches, but the ACT clutch is worth every penny, they are a very quality company.

Nismo Sr22GT
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since most companies who sell the clutch have no warranties, what happens when it goes out or is just faulty? what about the sparkplugs? which ones should i get and wires?thanks alotfor the info guys

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Nismo Sr22GT wrote:since most companies who sell the clutch have no warranties, what happens when it goes out or is just faulty? what about the sparkplugs? which ones should i get and wires?thanks alotfor the info guys
Not much you can do. Companies don't warrantee clutches because lifespan depends largely on the car and driver. It is quite possible to use up a perfectly good clutch in one weekend at the dragstrip.

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so i should get one from a regular store? at least those hae lifetime waranties, and they are only about 120, im not ready to risk 300 on a clutch that has no kind of warranty.

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The real expense of the clutch isn't really the unit itself, it's the transplant of the new one into your car. I know the shop I work for runs people at least $400 PLUS parts to put a clutch in. You can get the one with teh lifetime warranty, but if you drive it right and break it in and only beat on it occasionally you can get 50-100K out of a clutch. At that point the lifetime warranty really means bull, by that point you should be needing a rebuild of the car, or some good upgrading. I went with a stock clutch just becasue I was very short on money and had a guy put it in for me for $200 (I was very short on time, he can do it in 2 hours it takes me about 8). The stock clutch works just fine, and I plan to do an engine swap, so it was logical. You can be sure that when I DO do my engine swap an ACT unit will be going in. TRUST ACT!!!!

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Also, in addition, a lot of the auto parts store stuff can be poor quality. I can't remember who it was, but one of the people on the boards here bought an alternator with a lifetime warranty, and had to get like 6 replacements within a few weeks. Its not exactly cheap or easy to replace a ****ty clutch, better to go with the quality the first time. Theres no warranty, but it will last unless you utterly destroy it. : )

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its just like why do you think hyundai offers a 10 year warranty??probably because you NEED IT!

I got a lifetime warranty clutch from autozone.... bah.. about a year and 2 springs broke, and my throwout bearing was trashed.

now... im on my second clutch from them.. it still slips sometimes, and.... i am coming to the conclusion that my throwout bearing is once again ... trash :(

and it hasn't even been 3000miles yet....

/me sighs

-Dan

trpower7
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I got my clutch from http://www.clutchcity.com, they sell Exedy/Daikin clutches which are what Nissan puts in at the factory. It is also what alot of hte aftermarket guys base their clutches on. They sell one of the highest quality racing clutches around (also very expensive) but you can get a complete clutch kit for the 240 for $112. No lifetime warranty, but it's a very good clutch from what I have experienced and should last you until you can go turbo.

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Daiken rocks, good link TR.


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