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47ronin
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Ok so my plan is to keep this a sleeper as much as possible. I'd like to buy the BC stroker and then run a larger turbo. I'd like to know what turbo options I have. I would like to reach 400HP or more, so I can laugh at all these STI'S/Honda's. I would like as much info as possible on what I can do with this engine. I'm not a gear head just yet so bear with me. Money is not an issue


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rc1honda
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Well if money is not a issue then it's easy. Get a Fullrace Twinscroll mainfold and turbo. Try to get something around the size of a GT3076r. That will easily put you into the 400-450hp range and still have a super resonsive spool time. You will most likley hit full boost at around 4-4,500 RPM. Maybe even faster with the stroker kit.

Then get a standalone EMS to tune with. AEM,Haltech,Power FC.

Also with all the power you will nedd a good clutch and transimisson upgrade. Get the Mazworx z32 transmission conversion for the SR20. Cost about 1,100 without the transmission.

Hell if i were you i would just build a RB26dett. Thats a lot of work for that much power. If you get a RB26 and build it and boost the crap out of it you can put down 600-700hp with not that much more cost.

But as i read you are not a gearhead so all of this is going to cost you a small fortune in labor at any shop. So do as much as you can yourself.

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DuckyD
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You do realize that a RB26 swap with 600hp would be around $20k (if not more)? Sounds like everyone in this thread wants to go overkill, talking about RB26's and BC2.2's for a daily driven car.

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rc1honda
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DuckyD wrote:You do realize that a RB26 swap with 600hp would be around $20k (if not more)? Sounds like everyone in this thread wants to go overkill, talking about RB26's and BC2.2's for a daily driven car.
20k how do you figure?

4,000 for the RB26RB25 trans/oil pan 2,000Mickinney motor mounts 300?

Big single turbo. 1,000 The RB26 botton end can handle 600hp no problem.

Along with ancillary item lets say another 3,000 in tuning, and headwork. Your still only at 10,000 if you do most of it yourself.

The BC kit costs 3,000 on it's own. Then you have to get it assembled. The you have to tune it and get a clutch and transmission

SR 2000BC kit 3,000turbo 1,000tuning 2,000tranny 1,500 =9,500

The RB swapo would problay cost a little more. But in this case why not pay another 2,000 for a freaking monster with a lot more resale value? BTW who cares if it's a DD just stay out of the boost


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DuckyD
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haha I am so tempted to not even justify what you have posted, but I cannot help myself.

RB26 with 25 Trans and oil pan - $6k McKinny/ZeroLift Mounts - $300Nismo Mounts - $250Driveshaft - $500Intake Manifold + Throttle Body - $900Exhaust manifold, turbo, wastegate(s) $3k+Fuel - $1500Intercooler, radiator, and piping - $1k+Headgasket and Cams - $1kExhaust and Downpipe - $1kStandalone, tuning, gauges - $2k+

I am around $18k and this doesn't include installation (and fluids, which add up) and all the small stuff that kills a budget. Cut out $3k'ish if you want to stay on the stock twins, cut out another $2k if you want stay stock fuel.

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homeslicej2
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Yep, it's the little things that add up.

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Wretched
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47ronin wrote:Ok so my plan is to keep this a sleeper as much as possible. I'd like to buy the BC stroker and then run a larger turbo. I'd like to know what turbo options I have. I would like to reach 400HP or more, so I can laugh at all these STI'S/Honda's. I would like as much info as possible on what I can do with this engine. I'm not a gear head just yet so bear with me. Money is not an issue
you sound like the biggest tool, man. Just sayin. If you're actually looking to start a build, a little research goes a long way.

47ronin
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Dude your a tool, whats this forum for anyway? Part of researching is asking questions right. So help a brother out and don't criticize.

JesterX18
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If you want a daily driver SR i would go with greddy intake manifold, extrude honed and coated exhaust manifold. Jim wolfe S3 cams, Z33 clutch and ECU rom tune. Get a GT2871r turbo for quick response and a car that pulls hard to rev limit. Top feed fuel rail, bigger injectors, walboro 255 fuel pump. fabricate external wastegate actuator or not... run 20 pounds on rebuilt engine, and up to 23,24psi with methanol injection kit. 1 piece driveshaft, crank scraper, aluminum oil pan and a competition valve job and you will easily have your goal. Look up cody aces build. Hes at over 400 to the wheels and this is pretty much what he has. This some other stuff i could reccommend but you figure it all out with time. This is pretty much my build minus the stroker kit and JWT Z33 clutch, regret the not getting the clutch.

47ronin
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hey thanks jesterX18 and rc1honda thats great advice! Will I be able to run 400-450HP on 91 octane? Also what cam would you suggest I see a lot of people running cams with 264 duration. I'm really thinkin about that stroker kit cause I wanna run a bigger turbo. Whats the best cam to consider? Thanks again guys!

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zach-Ka
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Just so you know.... Our cars being so light is a huge advantage to cars like sti's. My predominantly stock sr will keep up with my friends sti that has a couple things done to it. 300whp would be more than enough hp especially if you want it to remain a daily driver. My friend has a 500whp rb and it sucks to drive alot of the time. And the higher you go in hp the harder it is going to be to keep it dependable.And in a swap the little stuff seems to stack up greatly. All the fluids/clamps/hoses/etc.I hope this helps a bit. I just know when I first got my s13 I was all about huge power numbers, but as time goes along it really gets less important. GL and just make sure to do everything on the car 110%

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Justin35ll
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i wish i could find the key for my jetta so i dont have to drive my 240 again today.

47ronin
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Hey Zach-ka I never thought about it like that. I guess your right in a lot of ways. I think I will have to re think my plan of action. I guess when you first get a car that has a lot of potential to go fast everyone wants to go too fast lol. I think I will leave out the BC stroker kit, now that I think about it i'm not planning on a drift car anyway! Thanks guys.

I would like to know what size turbo is a little bigger than the stock turbo? And what size cams would anyone suggest? Thanks guys!

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You want to DD that in socal?? especially in the 909.....gl!!

47ronin
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Haha well duffman I would not solely drive my 240, I have a sentra that I would mainly drive. I want something that is not a drift car and not bone stock that has somethin in the middle of 300-400whp that I can take on pch and have some fun on the weekends.

Thanks

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Sil80315
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Another one of these threads, Did someone pick on your slow 240 and just so happen to own an wrx/sti/evo? Build your car for yourself and not because you want to be able to say "I killed a evo and an sti today!!"

Its only going to take one race and people will know your car isnt a "sleeper" so its pointless to be sneaky.

All of these members suggestions are nice but very pricey and over kill just to be able to beat those damn little 4 door cars.

When I had a stock sr with typical bolt ons I had no problems beating these cars either from a start or a roll and I was rocking the t25.

47ronin
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Na man lol no one was talkin smack I don't even own a 240 just yet. I'm saving my pennies until I can get one and trying to understand what I plan to do. I have a sentra and its fwd and just way to slow lol. I think the 240 is just down right sexy I gotta get one. Anyway its not to overkill i'm thinking 400-450 is pretty mild.

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Sil80315
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47ronin wrote:Na man lol no one was talkin smack I don't even own a 240 just yet. I'm saving my pennies until I can get one and trying to understand what I plan to do. I have a sentra and its fwd and just way to slow lol. I think the 240 is just down right sexy I gotta get one. Anyway its not to overkill i'm thinking 400-450 is pretty mild.
Four reasons to reply to your post

(1). FWD owners thinkin crazy again. (2). You will never make that much power stock and with removing your above mentioned parts. (3). Stop window shopping. (4). 400-450 Isnt Mild.

47ronin
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Haha thinkin crazy na man I'm good actually. Ok well yeah 400hp is a lot ok i'll give ya that. So how about you throw some help my way dude.

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FRnIsmO
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you can do some good power gains on stock internals. 350-400hps is what i'm aiming for. this car in my opinion isn't geared towards the serious power you can get out an SR. I feel it's more about the drivers ability to use every ounce of it throughout the entire drive, going straight or slideways. my car is an extension of my body and thts why i love it most. if you want to get power power, go ls1 or 2jz but if you want a nice sweet spot, go sR and TLC. GL

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PyR0NiAk
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Here's an SR parts list that should get you around your goal...

HKS 264/264 Step 1 Cams. JWT or Enthalpy ECU Tune740cc InjectorsGT2871R .86 AR or GT3071R .86 ARwalbro 255fuel pressure regulatortomei exhaust manifoldgreddy intake manifoldz32 mafboost controller1.5mm headgasket with arp headstudsfront mount intercooler

(I'm sure I missed some parts on the list... You'll obviously need other small things too, such as gauges to monitor what's going on)

If you go name brand you're looking at more than $6000 plus the price of the sr swap...

Whatever you decide to do, good luck.

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You wanna jump from a FWD sentra to a stroked SR? Or RB? Take it in steps or youll kill yourself, get a 240 and play with tthe KA before you go trying to DD a 400hp car.

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PyR0NiAk
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DriftBoy07 wrote:You wanna jump from a FWD sentra to a stroked SR? Or RB? Take it in steps or youll kill yourself, get a 240 and play with tthe KA before you go trying to DD a 400hp car.
Very good advice...

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Sil80315
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A stock sr with "BPU" is pretty damn fast for someone thats going from fwd to rwd and slow to fast.

There are people that have broke into 12's with stock sr, stock turbo. Just good suspension. wheels and driver needed

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rc1honda wrote:

Also with all the power you will nedd a good clutch and transimisson upgrade. Get the Mazworx z32 transmission conversion for the SR20. Cost about 1,100 without the transmission.
you do realize that z32 trannys suck ?

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DuckyD
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mistamacadamian wrote:
you do realize that z32 trannys suck ?
.wat?

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PyR0NiAk
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DuckyD wrote:
.wat?
Pretty sure that is a rumor spread by magazines like Super Street...

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47ronin wrote: Money is not an issue
47ronin wrote:I'm saving my pennies
lol

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240nicksx
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go with the GT3076R .86 AR thats a awesome turbo for the sr.

RB26's are beasty engines, workin on one now myself as long as money doesnt matter, you can put down as much power as you want

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PyR0NiAk
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240nicksx wrote:go with the GT3076R .86 AR thats a awesome turbo for the sr.

RB26's are beasty engines, workin on one now myself as long as money doesnt matter, you can put down as much power as you want
Did you even read the rest of the posts... and for 400whp a 3071R is plenty... Hell, people are doing it with GT2871R .64s


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