Cylinder Head Help Please!

[sbird1]

Ok, so I took my head to the machine shop to have it cleaned and checked out for valves and warpage. I gave it to them with everything in it except for the cams. When I got it back the rocker arms and the little rocker arm pieces pictured below were in a little box. I don't have any idea what to do. The rockers are numbered from like 26 to 36 but there are two 26's. Anyway, can someone point me in the right direction for some help? Here are the little pieces I am talking about:



See how some have a groove and some are smooth? Yeah, don't know what to do. Thanks.

[idahotuner]

are you fvcking serious?

i thought some one would have learned from my mistake. those are the vavle shims the ones withthe grove go on the left and are the guides. you will need to remeasure all your valves to make surey you put them back in the right place. now

[sbird1]

Wait, what do I need to measure? Where the rockers go or the shims? You have a link to your build where you did it? This whole thing is pissing me off.

[idahotuner]

yes i will show you. i made cutom tool to do it. for about 15 bucks and borrowed micrometer.

when my internet stops being gay. i think it is about page 33 in my build thread.

[redtop91]

Wait, what do I need to measure? Where the rockers go or the shims? You have a link to your build where you did it? This whole thing is pissing me off.

Seriously Scott? Keep you shizz in order man. Now you have get them all back in the right place.

Sucky photo on how they should be arranged:

The right side is the back of the head and pictured is the exhaust bank. Like Ben said the notched one goes towards the front of the motor.

[sbird1]

Ok, I got as far as putting all the shims back in, but what about the rockers? How do I fugure out which goes where?

[redtop91]

Measure clearances (between cam and rocker IIRC) or reshim the head.

[idahotuner]

you need to measure valve clearances to no where to put the shims. the guides go on the left.

so that your rocker arms will sit flat.

here isa pic out of my build thread and the link to the place i do the shiming of my valves.

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let me do a little more searching cause i know where there is and indepth thread on sr20forums.com

[idahotuner]

the tool neededhttp://www.sr20forum.com/custo....html

how to http://www.sr20forum.com/techn....html

[codyace]

Pat's tool is super nice, but kinda price

on FreshAlloy there is a cheaper tool that you can make too

Follow Tim's guide (on sr20forum) and you'll be set. That has got to be the best on (IMO) out there.

If you're completly in over your head (which it seems), box your stuff up, and ship it to Mazworx to put back together for you (cheap and perfect).

[sbird1]

Thanks a bunch for the help guys. I will now try to figure this whole mess out. Anyone want to volunteer to come over and help me out?

[redtop91]

Buy my plane ticket, pay me for 1 day at my current wages, and feed and lodge me and I'll help you out scoot. seriously though I'm with codyace, you should ship it off to mazworx. cheap and fast and you know it'll be done as right as it is humanly possibly to do. I'm all for DIY but I wouldn't just crash course head assembly and shimming but if you have the time to take and learn it right I'll help as much as I can.
Modified by redtop91 at 1:33 PM 5/15/2008

[idahotuner]

that involves pulling the head of again. which sucks. do some research. like i did. cept i gave you all the tools you need man.

you cna do it i have faith in you

[Slipstream]

I need to do this on mine too. I karked everything I took apart, except for the shims and guides.

[mistamacadamian]

i sent my head out to a machine shop to get machined, ordered all new RA's. They didnt say anything about the shims or RA guides ? I know the RA guides are all one size, anyways yea ill guess ill read those links you post idahottuner

[idahotuner]

yep no problem guys.

you lucked out cause i did all the research for it allready.

[sbird1]

that involves pulling the head of again. which sucks. do some research. like i did. cept i gave you all the tools you need man.

you cna do it i have faith in you

It's still off which is the good part. I'm going to call and complain to the machine shop I took it to. Maybe they'll be cool and fix it for me but I'm not counting on it. I will probably end up sending it to Mazworx.

[idahotuner]

the machine shop wont do it for you. you should have took them out. i made the same mistake.

[codyace]

It's still off which is the good part. I'm going to call and complain to the machine shop I took it to. Maybe they'll be cool and fix it for me but I'm not counting on it. I will probably end up sending it to Mazworx.

IIRC it'll cost you more to ship it then for the service...totally worth it!

[Slipstream]

How much do they charge?

[tokendog]

Yeah, just out of curiosity, how much do they charge?

[sbird1]

I'm going to call them on Monday or Tuesday and when I find out, I will report back!

[redtop91]

IIRC Otterman was quoted at $300 some odd dollars.

[tokendog]

How the heck would you go about safely shipping an aluminum head with all of the stuff? lol just wondering...

p.s. I can only imagine the shipping cost

[sbird1]

IIRC it'll cost you more to ship it then for the service...totally worth it!

IIRC Otterman was quoted at $300 some odd dollars.

That's a little expensive. 10x what I paid the machine shop for the work in the first place...

[redtop91]

That was for head shimming for solid lifters and head assembly and all the extra valve work that that entails. For hydraulics it'd be much cheaper.

[idahotuner]

$100 dollars or 115 for shimming for hydraulic lifters

[tokendog]

How the heck would you go about safely shipping an aluminum head with all of the stuff? lol just wondering...

p.s. I can only imagine the shipping cost

???

[redtop91]

Probably the most convenient method would be UPS but with convenience comes added cost. A freight company would be the cheapest, but also the slowest, and usually only ships to business addresses. I'm sure if you call Mazworx they have a shipping arrangement set in place for you to use.

[tokendog]

Yeah but I'm talking about wrapping it and packaging. I'm guessing bubble wrap, cardboard, and foam?Just curious