CVT Acceleration Feeling

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D.P.G.
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Just wondering if this is common, when starting from a complete stop at any amount of acceleration I feel a vibration between 2000 and 2200 RPM. Once I pass through that 200 RPM range its very smooth. If I am already at speed and accelerate I don’t feel anything :gotme . Anybody have any thoughts?


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TaiLuu
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200rpm what?!
If you meant 1200 then that's normal
It's really how a cvt work. It finds the band of power when you first start off and then adjust from the tps

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kerrton
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The low-speed CVT vibration that is normal for the Rogue occurs under light loads when the CVT selects a high gear ratio and low throttle but this occurs at lower rpms, around 1200-1600 range. Once you hit 2000 rpms, in my experience the vibration completely disapears. Perhaps check again and confirm for us the rpm range that you feel the vibration, if it's 2000 and above it could be something related to wheel alignment, balancing etc. Do you feel the vibration above 2200?

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TaiLuu
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If its a wheel problem throw it in netral and see what happens when your going down hill

D.P.G.
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It is extremely smooth at all RPM ranges except when I start from idle and accelerate lightly I feel nothing wrong till I reach exactly 2000 RPM and at 2200 RPM it’s gone. If I am traveling say 30 MPH and accelerate I don’t feel anything wrong as it pass through that same 200 RPM band. It has nothing to do with wheel aliment since it happens if I am going straight or turning and there are no other symptoms of a wheel issue. And it only occurs for that same 200 RPM band at light acceleration.

D.P.G.
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Just an add-on if I hold the RPM at 2000 – 2200 going up a hill but the engine is producing more torque it is fine no vibration, only light acceleration does it.

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TaiLuu
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I Got it.
Is your Rogue AWD?
AWD kicks in when your stop then go.
When you reach up to a certain MPH AWD turns off.
When I drive my Rogue tomorrow I'll see if it vibrates. If it doesn't Probably Drive shaft or Diff faulty.

D.P.G.
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TaiLuu I think you make a lot of sense since it is so consistent when it happens and when I am at any speed above 30 but it might be as low as 25 it never happens. And maybe vibration is not the best choice of works the feeling of it changing from all wheel drive to rear wheel could be it and it’s just a coincidence that from a start that RPM range is when this happens. The Rogue is a 2011 SV – SL with 2050 miles and it has done it from the moment I got it. I have been driving a Toyota since 1976 more than 25 of them and I am very pleased with the change to Nissan.

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TaiLuu
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My Rogue does this and it has 5k miles.
So probably AWD system doing its thing.
And you are right it only happens 2k - 2.25k RPM.

D.P.G.
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Thanks I guess we both feel better knowing it is normal.

funissan
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i felt a vibration during acceleration in the steering wheel within two weeks of lease inception and took it in. the dealer and nissan said there was nothing wrong and refused to tell me what they inspected or what the specs were for the vibration. dealers have tools NVH ( noise Vibration and Harshment ) that measure frequency and aptitude of vibrations. i filed a Better Business Bearu complaint and they mediated a last repair attempt in which the Nissan tech stated the vibration comes from the cvt trans and is normal and still refused to tell me what the specs are or who inspected my rogue. i went to another dealer and while it was up on a hoist running in drive in idle the entire car shakes, the engine and trans shakes up to a inch and the front right wheel area makes sever clanking noise. i contacted Nissan consumer affairs and informed them of the find and made arrangements to take it into Suburban Nissan in Farmington Hills Mich and they said they could not duplicate the defect and operates has designed. i drove out of state and a Nissan dealer stated it was a binding axle shaft. another Nissan dealer said it was a bad center support bearing. unfortunately Nissan North America suspend my warranty because i filed a BBB case. i don't remember seeing in my owners Manuel that if i follow the dispute resolutions process or the arbitration process that my warranty is suspend or voided. i believe kerrton said in a early post the Nissan diagnoses procedure is to test drive the vechiel and that's it. be safe have your dealer put your rogue up on a hoist and let it idle in drive and make sure you see it. i posted some you tube videos under NISSAN ROGUE VIBRATIONS. i also placed repair orders in some of the videos. p.s. a lower quality video was taken prior to Nissan inspections and they were told clearly put the rogue up on a hoist and let it idle in drive and they still claim it operates has designed. be safe have them test it on a hoist has described if they wont take it some where else

jhumbertoap
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D.P.G. wrote:Just wondering if this is common, when starting from a complete stop at any amount of acceleration I feel a vibration between 2000 and 2200 RPM. Once I pass through that 200 RPM range its very smooth. If I am already at speed and accelerate I don’t feel anything :gotme . Anybody have any thoughts?
2010 Rogue, 20.5K miles ... same issue, and I don't think it's OK.
I drove an Altima not too long ago, also equiped with CVT, and no vibration. True... not an AWD. So, I would like to drive another Rogue... I don't think this is normal.

D.P.G.
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I am going to be at the dealer tomorrow for first oil change I will test drive a new Rogue exact same specs and see what the outcome is will post tomorrow.

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Ok drove an AWD Rogue SV – SL same as mine with 5 miles on it and it did exactly the same thing at the same speed and RPM. Then the dealer let me drive a front wheel drive one and nothing it was smooth. Dealer tells me that is the AWD system turning off, they even took a salesman’s demo and reprogramed the switch point to 500 RPM higher and that moved the vibration up. They then put it back to factory spec. and that one with 3000 miles did that same thing. It is normal and just a function of the AWD system.

lovemypathy
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Ours does the same thing and we just got it.

D.P.G.
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No worries after all the dealer did to prove to me this was fine I am convinced. He actually said they make their money off problems so there would be no reason for then not to fix a problem if on existed. I am satisfied. Good choice in cars I have been driving new Toyota's since 1976 and prefer the Nissan Rogue over the Venza I traded in and the 9 new Rav 4's I have owned over the years. Good luck with your car.

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casperfun
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I like to chime in on the vibration. I actually never even noticed it until I came into this forum and became aware of it.

Another thing, correct me if I am wrong. But I don't remember if this vibration was only in the CVT all-wheel-drive Rogues. I was under the impression it was all Rogues.

Anyways, it was stated earlier that the Altima's do not experience this vibration and these cars share the same engine.

Not that I am complaining with the vibration, but if the Altima's don't experience it. Why can't they do the same with the Rogue so they can appease the few who may be bothered by it.

Unless it has something to do with helping fuel efficiency or what not. :yesnod

D.P.G.
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Only with the CVT all-wheel drive dealer let me drive a front wheel drive as I stated and it was fine. It is the point the system switches from AWD to FWD that the feeling occurs.

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Qashqai
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Every morning when I am leaving my drive way and every time I accelerate on the acceleration lane at the highway, I cursed the day I bought Nissan Rogue. Yes I love the smooth CVT feeling. But it "sounds" like the car has a manual transmission, and it wants to go but I am not changing the gears! I hate it.

WIldfire1973
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Excuse me!!!!!!

But anybody saying that vibration is normal should get their head checked!!! Do you really think that cars are meant to do this? Do you really think a sports car or any car is designed to do this???? This is just bad engineering and Nissan should man up and take responsibility for this mistake! I payed 24K for my Rogue brand new when they first came out and someone from Nissan should resolve this issue. Of course they are not going to admit it but the issue is still there. My Rogue starting doing this after I changed the whole drive shaft from the right side due to a busted cover for the CV joint. Yes! the drive shaft was properly installed and the wheels are balanced and rotated every time I change my oil (every 3 months). I accelerate and there is a vibration that goes away once I start cruising. This cant be normal in any car! My next car will be a Toyota.

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kerrton
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Whether you like how the Rogue drives or not is your opinion, but regardless the vibration at gradual acceleration is normal for this vehicle; "normal" in this case does not mean that everyone will love it and it's the most refined vehicle you've ever driven, instead it means that the CVT is not experiencing a problem that will cause excessive wear and lead to reliability issues. Could the driving experience be more refined and pleasing to the driver = yes (in my opinion). But is the low-speed vibration outside of design tolerances for this unit = no. Now there are other warning signs that you may have a problem with your CVT, such as jerking, severe vibration, loud whining etc., but that is different from what is being discussed here.

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Well, you may be the moderator here or work for Nissan, but that still doesn't make it right that a car vibrates like that! Why didn't it do that when new? Why didn't the dealer say this would happen if from what you say "It's normal"? There is no way in hell any car is designed to do this. There is one thing to be infatuated with a name brand just because you think it is the best in the world, and the other is to see whether things are right or wrong. What next? What will you say when Nissan comes out with a design where the wheels just fall off? will that be ok as well? You have to learn to separate right and wrong from the love you have for Nissan. That does not make it right no matter what you say or how you want to spin this. Especially from a Japanese company that prides themselves on perfection. This is not normal. No vehicle in the world is designed to do this!Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, are not designed to vibrate. That is a big mechanical design "No No"! From an engineering point of view, it is not a good design! I can't believe you would think this is "normal". Nobody in their right mind could possibly think like this!

rikcool
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Guys
i bought a brand new 2015 Nissan Rogue, 1000 miles on it. I have the same problem around 1200-1500 RPM. SPORTS mode keeps it above 2000 RPM most of the time that it feels a lot better. But its a terrible issue. I wish i had bought a CRV. Is there any hope for me to fix this issue?


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