custom intake with pvc pipes?

[racing240sx]

I know a few people who have made custom intakes with pvc pipes. It sounds like a normal intake, but i never got to check if its possible to get any performance gain out of them.Can anyone explain this?

Modified by racing240sx at 7:48 PM 3/1/2009
Modified by racing240sx at 7:54 PM 3/1/2009

[Thamm]

Don't do it. Just buy a pipe from ebay and a cone filter and call it a day. Making a pipe from PVC will make your bay ugly and out of place.

[rob912]

its not worth it you can buy a intake for $100 lor less

[racing240sx]

well you guys are right, but ive seen pretty good custom pvc pipe intakes that dont look s***ty at all.

[liquid_cool]

hay man..why dont ya buy a custom PVC roll cage too!..it wont look to bad man.

dude..please stop..for the love of cars stop..your giving hella amunition for us to burn ya..and you may be giving really bad advice to someone who has no clue what your saying is garbage.

with your typing sir..comes great responcibility.

P.S. im not angry at you sir..just the information given..we wish only the best for 240 owners around the world..but we as owners take more pride in our love of cars then to make such a mod out of PVC....and i think..you being new to this areana of idea's may benifit allot by the information in the forum if you took the time to read sir..may i suggest the (S/A) brand of automotive books and Project Car Magazine aswell..all good reads..

[psi240]

if u want throttle response .. i suggest u relocate the battery and make a short custom intake.. buy a generic 3" aluminium pipe with a 45 and ull be set

I know a few people who have made custom intakes with pvc pipes. It sounds like a normal intake, but i never got to check if its possible to get any performance gain out of them.Can anyone explain this?

Modified by racing240sx at 7:48 PM 3/1/2009

Modified by racing240sx at 7:54 PM 3/1/2009

[racing240sx]

Thanks, but i tried the relocation, it wont work, the car stalled. What have i done wrong? I had a short ram pipe and the maf is connected and the vaccum hoses are connected to the new pipe and after a few throttle tests it stalled.

[racing240sx]

Oh and liquid cool.Burn me all you want. Im not afraid. People who burn others who are curious are just cowards. Not trying to burn you, but you would be surprised at some of the pvc pipe cold air intakes created near me. My buddy made a short ram pvc cold air intake and the dyno showed 20 hp-30hp coming from the custom intake than the other kind. I dont know, maybe theres something wrong with his car, but they tested another car thats exactly the same as his with an aem intake and the car only gained a 10 hp gain.

[D-UNIT]

I'll oblige you sir. Some benefits. Almost no heat soak. Techically tunable - need more low end , reach under the sink and voila 1.4 extra ft-lbs. Relatively cheap. Plenty of brands to choose from - Home Depot , Lowe's , City Mill etc. But I heard Mom and Pop's Lumber flow benches theirs (best one). I say do it if you can make it (nice)work. Paint it rattle can aluminium , pretty sure you could make some nice mandrel bends w/ a good heat gun too. All kidding aside make a build thread and post a dyno or two. These guys can't flame it if it makes power. But if it doesn't keep the results too yourself lol. j/k.

[liquid_cool]

Oh and liquid cool.Burn me all you want. Im not afraid. People who burn others who are curious are just cowards. Not trying to burn you, but you would be surprised at some of the pvc pipe cold air intakes created near me. My buddy made a short ram pvc cold air intake and the dyno showed 20 hp-30hp coming from the custom intake than the other kind. I dont know, maybe theres something wrong with his car, but they tested another car thats exactly the same as his with an aem intake and the car only gained a 10 hp gain.

im not trying to flame you as my comment stated..only trying to show you ..you can fab..with better materials..and do a better job...i am allso trying to give you valuable information on where to find and how to find resources that will help you tune better....there are a few things your not thinking about when using PVC " poly Vynal Cloride".....#1) its low melt temp..its around 250 to 300 degrees..depending on brands of make....#2) It can and will get brittle under exposure to heat/sun/cold...imagine sucking a fragment up in your intake if it breaks...{lets look at the physics side of that}..there is limited space after combustion during the exaust stroke at top dead center..if you had a solid in that space..no matter how soft it is...it must be displaced by moving out the exaust..or moving the head upwards..think on that a bit...last but not least..#3.)...PVC is not resistant to gasoline/solvants/oil/brake fluid/powersteering ect....what happens with pvc after a chemical attacks it ..is it softens..to much and it becomes puddly....well where do you think thats gona go to?...lets say the intake if not cought in time........se...if PVC was a great idea for an intake..every race junky out there would use it on the track to save wieght.....the reasons they dont is obvious...its to fragile a material to use under a race or modifyed class race or street platform....one mistake..and your buying a new engine..and possibly..exaust system...hope this helps some...by the way..i still recomend "Project car Magazing" and as many (S/A) brand books ya can handle.

[D-UNIT]

^^ honestly he's right. I had a friend who decided to turbo his honda 7 years ago. Sohc blah blah pvc piping. He thought it was cool at the time , hell he even ran high 13's w/ that set up. After three month though under hood temps won. His pipes literally exploded under boost. Typical Honda nucklehead just redid um and guess what...yep!

[93240sxguy]

im by no means the fastest car on the track, but. wouldnt a pvc intake melt or crack after a coupel months???

[liquid_cool]

im by no means the fastest car on the track, but. wouldnt a pvc intake melt or crack after a coupel months???

ya man..thats one of my points im tryin to make to him..it would..to bad they cant withstand a few runs without risking engine falure..it would be a lighter wieght soution for some things..but heck..there is Carbonfiber now!

[racing240sx]

<<<<<agrees, but explain this LC, a friend has a custom pvc intake, like the pvc pipes you see at your local lowes or home depot. He has had that intake for about 3 months now, and has even raced.That intake has no wear or brittle like you said.Maybe he put something on it to keep it from becoming brittle etc. But I mean, it doesnt hurt to do it for awhile. I dont race until i fully fix the car.I only tried the pvc because i was low on cash and thats all i could find, atm. I just need an intake that actually is better than the stock until my new one comes in. I know what your saying, but its not like im making a full pvc pipe intake. I have made a short one using like 4 short pipe just to have it sticking near my bumper. It works great, im not gunna make it any longer since you explained it clearly. Im gunna use it until my new one comes in this week.

[Logan76]

If he wont flame you, I will. A PVC intake? youve got to be s***ting me! That could be the most retarded thing Ive ever seen posted on here. For christs sake just buy a cheap a** one off ebay for like 15$ if you need an Intake soooo bad! I can see your next thread "How to put my nitrous nozzle in my pvc pipe?" Go read through some of the stickys on this forum, go read some car books, Educate yourself and come back without looking like a damn moron.

[racing240sx]

Hey, logan I never said i made a full pipe, there was no need for that, second ItS a question,i never said I made a full pvc intake. The profile is Why make a pvc intake?. It doesnt say"Hello racing240 here ,I made a pvc intake, please burn me for the stupid thing i did".No It just asks why make one. I bought 2 pvcs of the same material as my intake and had the filter near my bumper.Had it for one day as a test.Thats its, having 2 pieces do not make a full intake. Im getting a new one soon, Its getting shipped to me sometime next week.

[liquid_cool]

If he wont flame you, I will. A PVC intake? youve got to be s***ting me! That could be the most retarded thing Ive ever seen posted on here. For christs sake just buy a cheap a** one off ebay for like 15$ if you need an Intake soooo bad! I can see your next thread "How to put my nitrous nozzle in my pvc pipe?" Go read through some of the stickys on this forum, go read some car books, Educate yourself and come back without looking like a damn moron.

hard core bro....even thou he's newbish sire..i still think this one could be saved...

240 whatever...sorry i forget names..lol....dude..just read up..and keep your chin up man...we all start somewhere..keep that in mind...none of us here on this forum are experts..persay...we are just informed to a degree..why and how...we read...books,mags what ever we can get our grubby greasy hands on...once you devote a hour a week to reading a serious car book..you to will become informed..thats all it takes...good luck man..and dont be shy about asking questions...

im giving you your first asighnment.....buy the book "Engine Blueprinting" its one of the (S/A) brand books...read that and understand it some..and you will have a lot more knowhow then most on this forum..if cars are your passion man..thats where to start..good luck

[Logan76]

I was harsh, but I just wanted to completely steer him away from that idea. I think if he can go read up and learn some more about his car and how to properly modify it, he will be alot better off.

[racing240sx]

I know alot about cars, but, what are you gunna do if you just lost your job to the job recession going on. I spent all the money i had to fix the front end of the car. It was wrecked after a hit and run, somone pulled out infront of me. So now im selling stuff to get some cash to properly mod the car. So since i have no cash what can i do? I can only work with what i got until i get another job, which i will have this summer.

[liquid_cool]

I know alot about cars, but, what are you gunna do if you just lost your job to the job recession going on. I spent all the money i had to fix the front end of the car. It was wrecked after a hit and run, somone pulled out infront of me. So now im selling stuff to get some cash to properly mod the car. So since i have no cash what can i do? I can only work with what i got until i get another job, which i will have this summer.

we are all hurtin man economicly....once you know how something works..you can find ways to modify it out of common items you find on say streets or from junkyards...im not saying its true but..there has been roomers of certian guys here in vegas using aluminum from street sighns to modify there cockpits..you dint here that from me..anyways..you can get crafty..but make it out of metal of somesort...and please..read that book..you will thank me later.

[racing240sx]

Your right, but im gunna stick with using stock parts to my intake to extend it. It works since it came with the stock intake, so im just gunna do that until i start working in april.

[Logan76]

dude Im out of work and im in the process of building a 400hp civic, dont give me some sob story about losing your job, I made 700$ a week and went down to 240$ a week on unemployment, and I live on my own with a brand new car and brand new living room suite that I make payments on, and I have to pay all my bills, so your looking for sympathy in the wrong place man.

[D-UNIT]

**correction** I talked to my idiot honda friend he actually was boosting 8 psi on pvc piping on a d16. He was doing it for 1.5 years. Sold the car w/ the pvc pipe set - up. The only problem he had was blowing off couplers. He had to run t-bolt clamps other than that no melting or cracking. She handle. I guess I just wanted it to fail , but it didn't.

[SD413Silvia]

dude Im out of work and im in the process of building a 400hp civic, dont give me some sob story about losing your job, I made 700$ a week and went down to 240$ a week on unemployment, and I live on my own with a brand new car and brand new living room suite that I make payments on, and I have to pay all my bills, so your looking for sympathy in the wrong place man.

Seriously guy were all hurting, spare us YOUR sob story. this guy was simply explaining his reasoning, take it easy on him, there's no reason to be a d!ck... oh and btw if your so hurt for cash, why are you wasting your time with a honda... FWD=FTL

[Logan76]

I'm not asking anyone for sympathy, my build continues . Ive had more 240's in 1 year that you've probably had your whole life, blow me.

[liquid_cool]

Seriously guy were all hurting, spare us YOUR sob story. this guy was simply explaining his reasoning, take it easy on him, there's no reason to be a d!ck... oh and btw if your so hurt for cash, why are you wasting your time with a honda... FWD=FTL

i eat civics with my low buck chevey "Geo" metro that i call the blueberry!..and yes..its modifyed too!..2 inch exaust..custom shaped cams..really..we welded lobs on and shaped them with files..lol...custom intake system..i eat them alive!...and she has some slight handling mods..and takes corners well....as for the FWD coment...FF cars have the benifits man..all cars have some benifit and some disapointments..but a civic..just needs to die!..the best civic i have seen..was in the junk yard..

[SD413Silvia]

Ive had more 240's in 1 year that you've probably had your whole life, blow me.

you're probably right, i've had one 240 for 4 years, cus i take damn good care of it. congratulations you've had more 240's, its not a contest... but if you're gonna be a bag of douche then i might as well say that my one 240 is probably more badass than all of your little s*** buckets

[Logan76]

Im sure it probably is, Im sure your car is as a special as you are, your the ignorant one hating on fwd, post up your s*** if its so great, lets see this great 240 of yours...

[SD413Silvia]

Im sure it probably is, Im sure your car is as a special as you are, your the ignorant one hating on fwd, post up your s*** if its so great, lets see this great 240 of yours...

Ignorant? i use to own honda's and then i realized they are gay as s*** so i grew up and graduated to the big boy leagues. i didnt digress like you. What's wrong with hating on FWD? Name one thing other than understeer that your precious honda is good for. I'll post some pictures just to spite you.

and for the record its douchebags like you that give forums a bad name, all you do is talk s*** and get arguementative, go f*** yourself

[SD413Silvia]

the best civic i have seen..was in the junk yard..

Haha... well put