crazy people

[bigred240sx]

so last friday night some guy walked up to me and said nice z. then he went on about how i need his pacesetter header from the 80s and how the 3.1 liter build from MSA sucks...He told me the twice pipe exhaust which i am gonna order in the second week of july is crap, and so is the MSA 3 into 2, or something like that, header sucks too

so he also said thezstore.com and black dragon auto is full of fake parts

he claims to have 6 datsuns from 1970 to 1980

but anyways i also got offered a non running 1985 300zx turbo for a straight up trade on my car the same night by a completely different person

[Pharaohabq]

Don't trade... I've had 3 Z31's and tho they were nice and comfy when I had them, they all ended up getting squashed by one truck or another. They're not so timeless as the S30's are, certainly there's not as many people restoring Z31's. (though the 86' Z31 is darn sexy with it's extra wide flares and full taillights) That first guy might have known what he was talking about, but Even if MSA is replicated parts, it's good since 95% of S30 parts aren't made anymore. It's the quality of what you find that matters. If you don't like it, then send it back, it's up to YOU to decide what's good for *your* Z-car.

Keep in mind though that if a place was selling trash, then wouldn't be around long. There's plenty of good reviews on MSA parts.

Phar

[bigred240sx]

yea so far both places have sent me good stuff but what he ment by fake is that it was almost as cheap as the ebay crapoh well though i didnt wanna trade anyways im having way to much fun in this, though i do miss my locking diff on my 240sx

[sharjt]

though i do miss my locking diff on my 240sx

I've got a long snout R200 clutch type LSD from an 87 300zx For sale that should bolt right in for $900 or $1000 with the axels and driveshaft
Modified by sharjt at 12:14 PM 6/25/2008

[bigred240sx]

oh damn yea msa has one that bolts straight in for 900 which im gonna get sometime just gotta get money to finish the cosmetic work

[DemonZ]

haha, crackheads make me laugh.

Btw, I have a pace setter header hidden above the bathroom in my store (not in our inventory, and dont want the auditor finding it) Not only is it pretty much brand new (not from the 80's) but it looks pretty much identical to the MSA 3-2 header that I have.

There are some small issues with the MSA twice pipes, but they arent bad.Videos of my twice pipes on my old stock L24:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbb9mzHP ... ZT9wXzHof0

As for the Straight up trade for the Z31 turbo... I wouldnt take it personally, you can make your S30 a lot faster for a lot less money.

[AZ-ZBum]

so last friday night some guy walked up to me and said nice z. then he went on about how i need his pacesetter header from the 80s and how the 3.1 liter build from MSA sucks...He told me the twice pipe exhaust which i am gonna order in the second week of july is crap, and so is the MSA 3 into 2, or something like that, header sucks too

so he also said thezstore.com and black dragon auto is full of fake parts

he claims to have 6 datsuns from 1970 to 1980

If he didn't offer a better place to buy parts, then he's just talking **** and probably doesn't know anything.

[NSR_s30]

I always heard Pacesetter was poor quality, and that MSA is good. Is that not a true statement?

[evildky]

I think the crazy people title sumed it up, pace setter isnotorious for rusting out, MSA generally sells good quality produsts with top notch customer support

[bigred240sx]

yea thats what i gathered from you guys the first time i posted with parts questions but oh well the msa headers and twice pipes will be ordered in exactly 2 weeks time when i get the next pay check

[DemonZ]

I think the crazy people title sumed it up, pace setter isnotorious for rusting out, MSA generally sells good quality produsts with top notch customer support

Yeah, I'll second that, our pace setter has already rusted pretty bad in the box

[bigred240sx]

demon is that car in your sig lowered or is that how far down the twice pipe goes

[DemonZ]

demon is that car in your sig lowered or is that how far down the twice pipe goes

I had my old springs on when i took those pics.... I think they were stock height... and the exhaust wasnt fully mounted in those pics/vids. (only had one hanger on)

I pulled it into my new shop after my dyno run, and the 1 inch lip and 30 degree angle into the shop yanked the exhaust off at the header. ( I left it a bit loose just in case that happend)

I've got some NOS BRE springs I'm putting on her in a while and will do my best to mount the exhaust a little higher the next time........

[bigred240sx]

geez thats crazy i need 100 more dollars before i get the header and the twice pipe exhaust for my 280im still at stock height so i shouldnt run into a problem right?

[evildky]

I'm not a real big fan of the twice pipes, the chassis just doesn't lend itself to having to run 2 pipes, heck the 1 barely fits

[bigred240sx]

yea thats true haha

[DemonZ]

I'm not a real big fan of the twice pipes, the chassis just doesn't lend itself to having to run 2 pipes, heck the 1 barely fits

yeah, it's true, I have one pipe that hangs a little too low, and then i have about 1/2 an inch of clearance between the other pipe and the tire. When i get a little more serious about re-hanging it, I can probably fix that, but evildky is right, there just isn't a lot of room for it all

[evildky]

nothing against the idea of twice pipes, it just seems the engineers at the time forgot all about the exhaust

[bigred240sx]

oh well i like the look but i also want a carbon fiber muffler that megan racing makes and thinking bout doin my own exhaustits the same price as the twice pipes exhasut

[evildky]

the mandrel bend exhaust kits from MSA are a real bargain compared to most cars

[bigred240sx]

oh well i got a new exhaust and its a custom fab job done with a friend in my garage