CRAZY J30t ALARM PROBLEM, PLEASE HELP, WIFE IS GOING TO KILL ME!!
CRAZY J30t ALARM PROBLEM, PLEASE HELP, WIFE IS GOING TO KILL ME!!
WE HAVE A 96 J30t , AND EVERYTHING WORKS PROPERLY, BUT WHEN SHE(the wife) GETS OUT OF THE CAR, TAKES THE KEYS OUT AND LOCKS IT UP, GOES SHOPPING OR SOMETHING, WHEN SHE RETURNS TO THE CAR THE ALARM IS GOING OFF LIKE CRAZY, LIGHTS HORN AND EVERYTHING, BUT NEVER DOES THIS WHEN ITS PARKED AT HOME IN THE GARAGE WITH THE KEYS STILL IN THE IGNITION......CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO FIX OR DISCONNECT THE ALARM SYSTEM, BUT STILL BE ABLE TO USE THE KEYLESS REMOTE TO STILL LOCK AND UNLOCK THE DOORS, I DONT CARE IF I HAVE TO DISARM THE ALARM SYSTEM....PLEASE HELP MY WIFE IS DRIVING ME CRAZY TO FIX THIS..PLEASE EMAIL ME AT [email protected] AND LET ME KNOW WHAT I CAN DO ABOUT THIS.THANKS MONTY
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Don't know if this is your exact problem but call http://www.infinitipartsusa.com and ask for joe or frank. They can maybe lead you in the right direction. Frank has a J and may be buying a second
Could be a faulty door/hood/trunk switch also. You keep the keys in the ignition? Test it without the keys in. The key in the ign keeps the alarm from enabling.
Do you have the manual that came in the trunk? I do not have mine home (at work) so I cannot check if there is a diagnostic for the alarm
If you do not have the manual I will check on Monday but you may do a test yourself
Take keys out and wait a while, then open the door without using key or remote. If the alarm goes off then it is probabl th door latch as inb the above link
Good luck guy
Don't know if this is your exact problem but call http://www.infinitipartsusa.com and ask for joe or frank. They can maybe lead you in the right direction. Frank has a J and may be buying a second
Could be a faulty door/hood/trunk switch also. You keep the keys in the ignition? Test it without the keys in. The key in the ign keeps the alarm from enabling.
Do you have the manual that came in the trunk? I do not have mine home (at work) so I cannot check if there is a diagnostic for the alarm
If you do not have the manual I will check on Monday but you may do a test yourself
Take keys out and wait a while, then open the door without using key or remote. If the alarm goes off then it is probabl th door latch as inb the above link
Good luck guy
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The alarm isn't arming in your garage since the key is still in the ignition. I assume you're leaving the car unlocked in the garage too?
I'm not sure about the logic of the alarm for the 96J, but on the Q the alarm will only arm when all doors, trunk, hood, etc. are closed. A quick way to defeat the system is to unplug the pin switch under the hood. If you don't care about alarm function, this might work for you.
From what I remember, the Js commonly have a problem with the door lock timer and switch - but that usually causes the door to lock itself and trap the driver in the car... I'm sure one of our resident J experts will weigh in on this soon.
Heath
I'm not sure about the logic of the alarm for the 96J, but on the Q the alarm will only arm when all doors, trunk, hood, etc. are closed. A quick way to defeat the system is to unplug the pin switch under the hood. If you don't care about alarm function, this might work for you.
From what I remember, the Js commonly have a problem with the door lock timer and switch - but that usually causes the door to lock itself and trap the driver in the car... I'm sure one of our resident J experts will weigh in on this soon.
Heath
Thanks Q
Yes i leave the keys in the car in the garage with doors unlocked.but when the wife goes shopping she comes out and the alarm is going off. I done a test this morning, heres what i did, rolled down drivers window, shut and locked the car with keys in hand, i waited for about 2 hours and it did not happen, and this problem dont happen all the time, maybe 90% of the time.Is it possible that other cars in the lot are setting off the alarm?i dont know.What id like to do is disarm the alarm so this dont happen again.So if you could explain more on the "pin" ill try that.Thanks for your response.
It did not go off for you
Is it possible your wife is setting off the panic alarm? I put my keys in my pocket and have done it before myself and even locked the doors this way. Does not take much
If she holds down the lock or unlock button the alarm will go off. May something in her pocket orpurse is hitting the buttons
Have her check how she stores her keys etc and see if there is a way to isolate them to see if this is the problem.
Is it possible your wife is setting off the panic alarm? I put my keys in my pocket and have done it before myself and even locked the doors this way. Does not take much
If she holds down the lock or unlock button the alarm will go off. May something in her pocket orpurse is hitting the buttons
Have her check how she stores her keys etc and see if there is a way to isolate them to see if this is the problem.
No it did not go off this morning when i tested it like you said. and i shook the car, and nothing, then tried the outside door handle and it didnt set it off, then i reached inside the car and opened it with the inside door handle and the alarm still didnt go off, i cant make it go off.......so whats up with that???????????
I dont think its the remote, because we went out to eat one night and i had the keys in my pocket and it went off.
You know something, i dont think it has a panic button, ill have to check, but its the one that has the big blue button on the top to lock it.
I dont think its the remote, because we went out to eat one night and i had the keys in my pocket and it went off.
You know something, i dont think it has a panic button, ill have to check, but its the one that has the big blue button on the top to lock it.
Q451990 wrote:The alarm isn't arming in your garage since the key is still in the ignition. I assume you're leaving the car unlocked in the garage too?
I'm not sure about the logic of the alarm for the 96J, but on the Q the alarm will only arm when all doors, trunk, hood, etc. are closed. A quick way to defeat the system is to unplug the pin switch under the hood. If you don't care about alarm function, this might work for you.
From what I remember, the Js commonly have a problem with the door lock timer and switch - but that usually causes the door to lock itself and trap the driver in the car... I'm sure one of our resident J experts will weigh in on this soon.
Heath
The door timer problem (which happens mainly on early J's) won't lock the driver in the car. It justs trips the door locks which will lock you out if you're not careful. I sometimes have problems with mine. Getting trapped in the car has something to do with the door latches. This is a stinker of a problem because the fix is labour intensive. It also can screw with the alarm function. You may have this rare but not unheard of problem. I'll check my notes.
From my notes with thanks to the original authors:
The first symptom of the door latch failing is this: When you close the door but leave the car unlocked, you will return and the alarm goes off when you open the door. That happened on both of our Js. Basically the alarm sets by itself when you close the door. If your doors ever lock by themselves, replace your door lock timer! It's about $60 from TJ. The old one has a red sticker on it with numbers that end in 70. The new one has a blue sticker on it with numbers that end in 77. This only applies to J30s made before November 16, 1994. When you crawl up under the dash, you'll see this thing with a relay attached to it. You'll need a 10mm wrench and a screwdriver. It's a real pain finding the thing. Once you identify it, it takes 10 minutes to do. Both of our J30s had this problem (severely), and the new door lock timers solved it. Since the timer is under the dash, not the door, you don't need to do it when you have the door apart. The door latch is quite a troublemaker. It causes anything from setting off alarms to being unable to open the door! A new, updated latch is available from TJ for $23. This is truly a pain to install. Minimum 3 hours. The door lock actuator attaches to the door latch (you have to remove and reinstall it when you replace the latch). It's about $65 from TJ. Totally unneccessary to replace the actuator if the power lock works. A failed actuator would not prevent you from opening the door, only a failed latch would. The actuator is simply the solenoid that locks/unlocks the door with the power locks. If your power window is "binding" on it's way up or down (moving very slow), replace the window regulator (about $75 from TJ). If you don't, the gears on the motor will get stripped and a new motor is 3 times the cost of a regulator!
I was the one that posted that. When you order the door latch, order some new clips for the door panel in case you break any. Also, order a new door check (door stopper, whatever) if yours doesn't hold very well. May as well do it all at once while you have the door panel off. I've taken it off so many times it takes me less than 5 minutes now. The driver's door latch wears out long before the passenger's, so maybe you should do them both at once to prevent any problems.You mentioned that the dealer replaced the door lock timers. There is only one door lock timer, and it's under the dash. If it has a red sticker, it's the old kind. If it has a blue sticker, it's the new kind. I wouldn't trust the dealer with this stuff. A local dealer lied to me and told me that the timer and both actuators had to be replaced for $600 (parts and labor). Then I called TJ and he said just the timer at $60 (part). I have replaced it on both of our J30s.
The first symptom of the door latch failing is this: When you close the door but leave the car unlocked, you will return and the alarm goes off when you open the door. That happened on both of our Js. Basically the alarm sets by itself when you close the door. If your doors ever lock by themselves, replace your door lock timer! It's about $60 from TJ. The old one has a red sticker on it with numbers that end in 70. The new one has a blue sticker on it with numbers that end in 77. This only applies to J30s made before November 16, 1994. When you crawl up under the dash, you'll see this thing with a relay attached to it. You'll need a 10mm wrench and a screwdriver. It's a real pain finding the thing. Once you identify it, it takes 10 minutes to do. Both of our J30s had this problem (severely), and the new door lock timers solved it. Since the timer is under the dash, not the door, you don't need to do it when you have the door apart. The door latch is quite a troublemaker. It causes anything from setting off alarms to being unable to open the door! A new, updated latch is available from TJ for $23. This is truly a pain to install. Minimum 3 hours. The door lock actuator attaches to the door latch (you have to remove and reinstall it when you replace the latch). It's about $65 from TJ. Totally unneccessary to replace the actuator if the power lock works. A failed actuator would not prevent you from opening the door, only a failed latch would. The actuator is simply the solenoid that locks/unlocks the door with the power locks. If your power window is "binding" on it's way up or down (moving very slow), replace the window regulator (about $75 from TJ). If you don't, the gears on the motor will get stripped and a new motor is 3 times the cost of a regulator!
I was the one that posted that. When you order the door latch, order some new clips for the door panel in case you break any. Also, order a new door check (door stopper, whatever) if yours doesn't hold very well. May as well do it all at once while you have the door panel off. I've taken it off so many times it takes me less than 5 minutes now. The driver's door latch wears out long before the passenger's, so maybe you should do them both at once to prevent any problems.You mentioned that the dealer replaced the door lock timers. There is only one door lock timer, and it's under the dash. If it has a red sticker, it's the old kind. If it has a blue sticker, it's the new kind. I wouldn't trust the dealer with this stuff. A local dealer lied to me and told me that the timer and both actuators had to be replaced for $600 (parts and labor). Then I called TJ and he said just the timer at $60 (part). I have replaced it on both of our J30s.
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When you lock the car, does the "security" light come on for a while, then turn off? That means it's arming correctly. Then with the door window down you should be able to unlock the door from the inside and open the door and set it off... the car thinks someone broke the window since it's not getting a ground pulse from the remote or door lock sensor.
The pin switch I'm referring to is under the hood. It should have a rubber boot on it and is mounted on the inside of one of the fenders so that it's pressed down when the hood is closed. Actually after thinking about it, I think you need to leave the switch plugged in, but unbolt it from the body and leave it hanging under the hood. That should fool the alarm in to thinking the hood is open, so it'll never arm.
You should be able to look at the dash light to see when it's arming or not... you'll need to experiment with the alarm to understand it's logic - it might be different on a 96J vs a 90Q. I'm fairly sure there isn't a shock sensor on any factory alarm (at least by Nissan)
Heath
The pin switch I'm referring to is under the hood. It should have a rubber boot on it and is mounted on the inside of one of the fenders so that it's pressed down when the hood is closed. Actually after thinking about it, I think you need to leave the switch plugged in, but unbolt it from the body and leave it hanging under the hood. That should fool the alarm in to thinking the hood is open, so it'll never arm.
You should be able to look at the dash light to see when it's arming or not... you'll need to experiment with the alarm to understand it's logic - it might be different on a 96J vs a 90Q. I'm fairly sure there isn't a shock sensor on any factory alarm (at least by Nissan)
Heath
my educated guess is that your motion sensor is shorted and somehow is more sensitive now which would explain why it doesnt go off in your garage. and someones loud bass from there stereo is setting it off at the store when your wife rolls out....just a suggestion....viper alarms are my deal not to experianced with factory glitches
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What motion sensor the oem Q/J alarms just have ignition key, door key/door open , trunk key, and hood switches.
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damn thats all we got? no wonder mine has been flawless. rock on see this is why i try to stay out of the forums way....lol computer questions anyone???/ j/p