Craving boost!

[Altimasurgery801]

Hello, I am fairly new to the forum but have been reading for a couple of months on and off. I have been looking in to boosting the 1993 altima ka24de but I am definately off to a slow start. From what i have found a stock KA should be able to handle 300-350HP...?? I plan on starting with a t3 that i will be getting of a buddy, which will include somewhat of an intercooler. the piping is for a top mount. I plan on going front mount due to the fact I dont want to buy a hood to accomadate the TMIC. SO... i am going to need fuel pump, turbo manifold, oil return lines, ECU (should i go standalone or seek tuning) do i need bigger injectors? can i use cheep ebay short ram intake on a turbo application? should I? What else would i be looking at for a very basic setup? Please dont beat me to death for my ignorance , any input would be appreciated. preferably in depth recommendations!!!!!! I am not going for anything great for my first setup I just want BOOST. thanks.

[WDRacing]

Well welcome to Nico and KAT I'm not an expert on the Alty kits by far, in fact we have very few Alty guys in here anymore. We used to have quite a few. I'd say safe is 300...I just don't trust the rods anymore. The #3 seems to end up on the wrong side of the block My suggestions are lose the TMIC...they suck. You're going through alot of custom piping hassles just to run the worst designed intercooler on the planet. That said, Ebay has really cheap FMIC's.

Let me ask you a few questions before I go any further into this. Are you going to be doing the work yourself? Is welding out of the question? Are you a mechanic? How are you going to tune this, are you doing it? Whats your total budget look like?

Answer those and I'll get back to you.

WD

[nissanfanatic]

Hello, I am fairly new to the forum but have been reading for a couple of months on and off. I have been looking in to boosting the 1993 altima ka24de but I am definately off to a slow start. From what i have found a stock KA should be able to handle 300-350HP...?? I plan on starting with a t3 that i will be getting of a buddy, which will include somewhat of an intercooler. the piping is for a top mount. I plan on going front mount due to the fact I dont want to buy a hood to accomadate the TMIC. SO... i am going to need fuel pump, turbo manifold, oil return lines, ECU (should i go standalone or seek tuning) do i need bigger injectors? can i use cheep ebay short ram intake on a turbo application? should I? What else would i be looking at for a very basic setup? Please dont beat me to death for my ignorance , any input would be appreciated. preferably in depth recommendations!!!!!! I am not going for anything great for my first setup I just want BOOST. thanks.

Check out peoples' setups that you would like to have. And ask them questions. A lot of people will say how much they hate questions, but me personally, I like when new guys ask questions because its good to see that people are going in the right direction and I myself want to do all that I can to make the car world a more educated place.. The larger/more educated the car world is, the better chance we have at sticking it to the man when it comes to emissions laws, laws regarding modifying your cars, street racing laws, ect ect... I personally am sick of having to put up with **** about my car regarding laws.. Anyways, like I said, ask people who have setups that you really like... If they aren't gay, they will most likely gladly answer any questions.. Just make sure you ask what you want to know.. We don't know what to just tell you... Good luck with your car!

[Edub1]

1st, determine your budget. The least expensive reliable turbo setup will cost around $2K by the time you factor in everything. Stand alone ECUs are huge coin. The Bikirom is the choice for DE tuning. Most guys use a T3/T04E hybrid turbo. I chose a T3 Super 60 because I think 300HP is the most the KA can SAFELY handle long term and it reaches boost faster. Internal waste gate will save at least $250 too.

Getting your IC installed and the pipe plumbed in is one of the biggest challenges. I'd look around for some examples. A short ram may or may not work as a turbo intake but will be only a tiny part of a large puzzle.

You will need larger injectors, a new clutch, perhaps a larger MAF, a reworked exhaust, possibly a battery relocation, etc.

Also, be aware that this is a project that will take a considerable amount of time both wrenching and reading. If you don't have the patience, consider just doing cams, header, exhaust & tune.

[WDRacing]

And Nitrous...don't forget Nitrous!!!!

[Craving4Boost]

here I thought this thread was dedicated to me

[Florida240sx]

You thought it was.........Run about 12psi with your set-up and a biki tune.

[Altimasurgery801]

Wow, I was expecting some bashing. Thanks for the warm welcome guys!!!

Let me ask you a few questions before I go any further into this. Are you going to be doing the work yourself? Is welding out of the question? Are you a mechanic? How are you going to tune this, are you doing it? Whats your total budget look like?

Answer those and I'll get back to you.

WD

Well i do plan on doing the work myself, I have people willing to help, but everyone knows what they are doing these days<<---sarcasm. So I am still seeking some proper help. The welding im guessing your talking about the manifold flange? I have a nieghbor that does my welding. no im not a mechanic, it may take me a while but i havent had any problems in the past doing my own work. not like ive done anything serious but I will figure it out. i have no idea how im going to tune my application but thats what you guys are here for!!! what would be my best options for tuning? has anyone heard of that guys selling 45$ eprom chips on ebay I decided to get one for the current n/a ka. 45 bucks cant hurt! the current budget, well after the hoiday season will be about 500$-1000$ going into the alty a month maybe more depending on avail overtime. so far all i have is the turbo, I decided due to some much appreciated advice to just get the turbo without the IC. THANKS WD! I didnt really realize that it would be that much of a task to get custom piping for the IC. so i got the turbo for 100 bucks. it seems to spool smoothly. I am able to get it spooling just by blowing in the turbo. so next few items on the list are FMIC, Turbo manifold, now I hear that to get any manifold to fit in the alty I am going to have to get a smaller radiator?? true? and since there are so many problems getting the manis to fit in the altima where should i look to find one? ....walboro fuel pump, should i go with sr 370cc injectors? I think im going to need a downpipe as well. I know im missing plenty but lets start with that.

Check out peoples' setups that you would like to have. And ask them questions. A lot of people will say how much they hate questions, but me personally, I like when new guys ask questions because its good to see that people are going in the right direction and I myself want to do all that I can to make the car world a more educated place.. The larger/more educated the car world is, the better chance we have at sticking it to the man when it comes to emissions laws, laws regarding modifying your cars, street racing laws, ect ect... I personally am sick of having to put up with **** about my car regarding laws.. Anyways, like I said, ask people who have setups that you really like... If they aren't gay, they will most likely gladly answer any questions.. Just make sure you ask what you want to know.. We don't know what to just tell you... Good luck with your car!

well im really not looking for anything special just boost, as long as Im spoolin I will be happy. thanks for the support man u rock!

1st, determine your budget. The least expensive reliable turbo setup will cost around $2K by the time you factor in everything. Stand alone ECUs are huge coin. The Bikirom is the choice for DE tuning. Most guys use a T3/T04E hybrid turbo. I chose a T3 Super 60 because I think 300HP is the most the KA can SAFELY handle long term and it reaches boost faster. Internal waste gate will save at least $250 too.

Getting your IC installed and the pipe plumbed in is one of the biggest challenges. I'd look around for some examples. A short ram may or may not work as a turbo intake but will be only a tiny part of a large puzzle.

You will need larger injectors, a new clutch, perhaps a larger MAF, a reworked exhaust, possibly a battery relocation, etc.

Also, be aware that this is a project that will take a considerable amount of time both wrenching and reading. If you don't have the patience, consider just doing cams, header, exhaust & tune.

plumbed?? so the t3 60 has an internal wastegate? with an internal wastgate will i still be able to use use a boost controller? I have heard mixed things on the stock MAF sensor does it really stop sensing after 260 hp? reworked exhaust? what do u mean reworked? fidanza flywheel and ACT 6 puck added to list any cam recommendations???

here I thought this thread was dedicated to me

this thread is dedicated to anyone craving boost. Thanks again guys!

[Florida240sx]

Do not buy that chip!!!!!!!!!!! RIPOFF my friend had one

[Altimasurgery801]

Already bought, I am having installed on a secondary ecu as we speak. what results did your friend get? any HP gains at all? i figured since it was an eprom it should have some sort of tuning that would bring gains. but hey 45 bucks it was worth a shot.

[Edub1]

The tune was made a long time ago by DeviousKA who runs Hybridka.com. The Ebay guy ripped it off, if it's the same guy. Who knows, it might be the free one I posted here. Anyway, I hope you are having a zif socket put in and not just the chip. That way you can replace them as needed. Personally, I'd tell the guy you found out about his little scam and want your money back.

As for the turbo, you need to get all that intercooler pipe in and you will need a whole new exhaust system. You will have to relocate your battery into the trunk as well. Search around a bit.

[Altimasurgery801]

well i went and got an ecu form the junk yard to have the eprom installed on it, i can solder but i have never desoldered before so i have a co-worker installing it for me. supposedly the guy I bought it from tuned according to my current setup (intake headers and straight pipes) it took forever to ship and the guy said it was because he was testing the tune on another n/a ka. Im hoping it is a good tune, if not i probably will claim the car will not turn over with that chip installed but it will with my other ecu. oh well 40 bucks. i didnt think of having a zif socket installed. i will have to have that done on the turbo tuning. how hard is it to use the rom tune software? im thinking that is going to be my best option for my tuning. one last thing where can i find a downpipe for an altima will any other downpipes fit the altima?

[Edub1]

Why not see if you can hold off for a zif socket. Do you have a link to the Ebay auction?

[nissanfanatic]

Man everybody thinks they will be happy when they are boosting.. You'll be after more soon..

Don't worry.. This engine is just like any four cylinder engine. It has the same internals as the SR except for a longer stroke and higher CR. So by mechanical design, a longer board will snap easier and you have to do slightly more to deter knock. Aside from that, this engine will handle boost just fine.. I go to local meets and drive the crap out of my car.. I keep having component failures.. The engine has never given me problems.. It is the original engine in this car...

[Altimasurgery801]

the seller is goin-goin-gone! link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

where should i look for a zif socket for my ecu? also still wondering if i can buy a test pipe and down pipe made for altys or if i need to go custom? 1 more thing for a very very NOVICE tuner what should i start with for engine managment? Im leaning torwards rom tunes, but obviously i have no F****in idea what im doing!!!

[Edub1]

Check out hybridka.com

There is a post about that guy and that chip on there. It is a base tune pirated from DeviousKA that needs additional tweeking. You got ripped off.

About the down pipe - it will depend on what manifold you use. Get your setup going and fab in the DP later or buy one for your manifold. Tuning is a whole other subject but installing a zif socket is the first step.