crap that was hard, but well worth it

[UncleBen]

a friend of mine (cnichols is his name on here) helped me put my tokico's and sportlines on sat. and sun. all i can say is wow, it looks amazing. and it handles SO much better. who ever said sportlines weren't performance springs:pface

[7HE_DON]

I got Eibach Sportlines and I'm very much amazed with the handling too... the 240sx was definately made to tackle corners

how much lower is your car now?curb weight?

[UncleBen]

i didn't measure the car b4 i started lowering it. i wish i had. but the front end (with the front spoiler) is like 6 inches or 7 inches off the ground. i have no clue about the curb weight. they've only been on about, uh, 24 hours? i put the front 2 on a diff. day than the back, so.... but yea i love the look

[Nismo_Freak]

2760 is the dry weight of the S14 w/ Auto transmission SO figure about 2800 curb weight for the S14 manual.

[7HE_DON]

2760 is the dry weight of the S14 w/ Auto transmission SO figure about 2800 curb weight for the S14 manual.

thats the over all weight of the carcurb weight is the pounds/ ft exerted on the suspension to the tireseg. stock 240 would average 270lb/ft curb weight

95silviamy sportlines lowered mine 1.9 inchesso with 40mm tires and 16 inch rims the front and back just barely tuck under the fender... its almost precisely level

[z0sick]

New suspension really helps

[89sxRCR]

iv been thinking about tokicos or some kind of gas shocks to go with my coilovers. The ride is really rough right now, almost 2 rough to race unless its really flat street. Do you think that the gas shocks would soften the ride at all? some of my friends say it wouldnt do much, so im trying to decide, my car is pretty low right now its dropped 3 inches so naturally its gonna be rough no matter what but any improvement is well, improvement.

[UncleBen]

New suspension really helps

it definately helps, its just so frikin expensive. i'm gonna get it aligned here within a few days. oh yea, today is picture day for my car. i'm gonna get some pics and have them posted up here under the member rides section. dam i love my car.

[7HE_DON]

it definately helps, its just so frikin expensive. i'm gonna get it aligned here within a few days. oh yea, today is picture day for my car. i'm gonna get some pics and have them posted up here under the member rides section. dam i love my car.

i got pictures already.. just need scanner =X(kinko's)

[pancito]

When you think about it shouldn't be that hard, but in reallity it's a ****ty job, i bought used koni (back) and AGX (front), and let me tell you is no picknick

AGX accepts 12 mm bolts (S13 Stock OEM) me having a 96 didn't help much (14 mm bolts Stock).

The Front spring is a b**** to put back in, 2 coils to compress is not enough with the spring compressor.

don't do it on a Sunday (no shops open, or anywhere where you can find 9 grade or more bolts and nuts)

other then not being a "bolt-on" experience for me it's a blast, i had blown shocks all around, and on hard acceleration i experienced wheel hop, NOT ANY MORE!!!! :ylsuper

Drifting is more controlled, overall better delivery of the power to the ground.

BTW how do you adjust the konis in the S14?

[neurovish]

thats the over all weight of the carcurb weight is the pounds/ ft exerted on the suspension to the tireseg. stock 240 would average 270lb/ft curb weight

curb weight is what the car weighs with fuel, oil, ps fluid, etc. and is measured in lbs

[UncleBen]

i got pictures already.. just need scanner =X(kinko's)

kinko's done yet?

[7HE_DON]

curb weight is what the car weighs with fuel, oil, ps fluid, etc. and is measured in lbs

=Tyeah its the ENTIRE weight of the car but its not a 4 digit number unless you drive a tank...you're hella wrong dude... im sorry but i must correct you nowwhat i said earlier is crub weightpick up a road and track magazine and you'll see what i mean

[neurovish]

=Tyeah its the ENTIRE weight of the car but its not a 4 digit number unless you drive a tank...you're hella wrong dude... im sorry but i must correct you nowwhat i said earlier is crub weightpick up a road and track magazine and you'll see what i mean

you should stop reading road and track then....weight is never measured in lb/ft, that would either be torque or some kind of weird spring rating. How the hell did you get a '270 lb/ft' number anyways?

[7HE_DON]

you should stop reading road and track then....weight is never measured in lb/ft, that would either be torque or some kind of weird spring rating. How the hell did you get a '270 lb/ft' number anyways?

spring resistance... take the curb weight ... distribute it... 'go around a turn fast' and the percentage of resistance the spring gives divided by 4 amongst for suspension towers is how much lbs/ft the spring can handle

[Tino]

spring resistance... take the curb weight ... distribute it... 'go around a turn fast' and the percentage of resistance the spring gives divided by 4 amongst for suspension towers is how much lbs/ft the spring can handle

:eyecrazy

[SeanDean]

Ok, I dont know what's in your pipe bro, but you need to quit smokin it. Curb weight is the weight of the vehicle, period. Some manufacturers quote it with fuel, some without. It is NOT a torque or spring rate. My car weighs 3020lbs. That is the curb weight, end of discussion.

Sean D.

[Tino]

Ok, I dont know what's in your pipe bro, but you need to quit smokin it. Curb weight is the weight of the vehicle, period. Some manufacturers quote it with fuel, some without. It is NOT a torque or spring rate. My car weighs 3020lbs. That is the curb weight, end of discussion.

Sean D.

:flamer :aug2

[7HE_DON]

Ok, I dont know what's in your pipe bro, but you need to quit smokin it. Curb weight is the weight of the vehicle, period. Some manufacturers quote it with fuel, some without. It is NOT a torque or spring rate. My car weighs 3020lbs. That is the curb weight, end of discussion.

Sean D.

3020lbs? what you got in their... your mom?thats at least 200 lbs over the heaviest 240

listen up 'constrictedthinker'... you may be the type that just gets springs... heat them.. the cut them... if you take the spring and straighten it out you have over 5 feet of it... if your car weighs over 3000 lbs then you assume that weight is distributed over the four suspension towers (obviously your cars weight isnt relied on one tire)

when you take a turn you cars weight goes to one side... but not all the weight depending on how low the car is plus tons of other factors defining center of gravityyour springs retract giving resistance... if your springs retract until they are touching coil to coil then that 100% resistance used... but that doesnt happen.. unless of course they're the ones on your car where they are completely destroyed from heat and shortened by cutting a couple coils off to 'slam' your car

2 suspension towers on each side... percentage of retraction gives you the percent of weight its holding (look on the box of your springs and it'll tell you how many lbs of resistance he can withstand)

take your cars weight and multiply it by the percent of resistance your spring gives

so lets just say your springs un coiled it 5 feet... and your car is 3000 lbs... between two springs combined you should have the resistance of at least half of 3000... 1500 lbs... each spring at 750lbs... if your spring resistance can withstand that then you have pretty damn good springs... but since your springs NEVER touch coil to coil you never use 100% of the springs resistance... so lets just say your springs retract half that 375lbs

now like i said... my springs coming around a turn probably do 270lbs/ft Eibach Sportline... i assume that you're ignorant to believe whenever you see lbs/ft it would always relate to torque..

[SWIFT_DRIFT]

don would you just shut the **** up you dumb a**...i don't even bother reading any of your worthless posts anymore, i stop reading once i seen that you posted it. stop whining about something so worthless. if you re-read all the posts in this thread you are the only person saying curbweight is the spring load measured in ft/lbs while everyone else is saying its just normal weight measurements... i very highly doubt that all of us are wrong and you are right.

btw tino, you and me are cool now, but just a word of advice, please dont post replys that only involve quoting the previous message with smiley icons as your text. if you are going to take up space and raise your total number of posts please go to the ring with the rest of us, cuz that why it's there

[7HE_DON]

don would you just shut the **** up you dumb a**...i don't even bother reading any of your worthless posts anymore, i stop reading once i seen that you posted it. stop whining about something so worthless. if you re-read all the posts in this thread you are the only person saying curbweight is the spring load measured in ft/lbs while everyone else is saying its just normal weight measurements... i very highly doubt that all of us are wrong and you are right.

btw tino, you and me are cool now, but just a word of advice, please dont post replys that only involve quoting the previous message with smiley icons as your text. if you are going to take up space and raise your total number of posts please go to the ring with the rest of us, cuz that why it's there

...whatever...

[Xenon]

Stupid Ferrari people! They're so wrong, Correct Don?

http://www.ferrari.com/cgi-bin...ex=0&

Kerb Weight, aka Curb Weight....

:rolleyes

[SWIFT_DRIFT]

heh, that is kinda funny xenon with the spelling :P

Hey Don, do you think Ferrari is wrong? perhaps you should explain to them what curb weight is. spare us your long winded posts of a** and waste your time with ferrari. or go tickle your a** with a feather you hairpie and save the room for real posts/flames.

[7HE_DON]

...whatever...

(maybe you didnt get the hint the first time... im not gonna f*ck around outside the ring cuz your bull sh*tting belongs back in the play pen... too lazy to read my post? too bad... im not gonna spoon feed it to you)

[7HE_DON]

actually... here....http://www.tein.com/nissan.htmleat a c***..

[7HE_DON]

Stupid Ferrari people! They're so wrong, Correct Don?

http://www.ferrari.com/cgi-bin...ex=0&

Kerb Weight, aka Curb Weight....

:rolleyes

ite... maybe i got off on wrong foot.. i wasnt asking for 'kerb' weight... but i was defining spring rate... but thats what i meant all along.....

sorry?

SWIFT_DRIFT - flame me... cuz i was talking about curb weight in relation to one suspension tower... maybe if you read all that i wrote... and keep your antics in the ring... and try lowering your posts per day too... it makes you look like you dont have a life outside this forum

[SWIFT_DRIFT]

you are so ignorant you should be shot. the original crap that was posted which started this whole mess was about curb weight. how much the car weighs total...capiche? then you went off sidetracking as usual on some intellectual flub about spring rate compared to curb weight for a shock tower...which was totally irrelevant to what the posts were about. The guy who installed his new suspension said he did not know what his new curb weight was. when the hell did he ever ask about spring rate? never, but you had to show your supreme knowledge saying that curbweight WAS a ft/lb measurement when it never has been or ever will be. then in your later posts you stop calling it curb weight and started referring to your stupid numbers as just only spring rate which is what it was in the first place, not the curb weight like you claimed it to be. If that doesnt make sense to you, i can whore another post here and quote every little post you made so you can see for yourself how you kept changing what you called "curb weight."Quote »ite... maybe i got off on wrong foot.. i wasnt asking for 'kerb' weight... but i was defining spring rate... but thats what i meant all along.....[/quote]yeah no sh*t sherlock you did get off on the wrong leg. 1) you never "asked" for curb weight, you "told" it was a ft/lb. measurement. yes you were defining spring weight in relation, but if that's what you meant all along why did you keep changing what you said until here we are 2 pages later you finally admit you were wrong. posting tech stuff and number, hell yeah go for it, some people love that stuff, but either know you are right before you post, or if you do post incorrectly, either admit what happened, or fix it. do not be ingnorant and continue to post the wrong info bro. it is not helping your credibility or acceptance here, not that it ever will.

and no i will not go to the ring because you never show your face in there and everytime you have posted in there, you sound the same as you do here, the stupid whiner that you are.

[SeanDean]

Hahaha, what I think is hilarious is that I never specified that I have a 240sx, you just assumed, Don. Maybe you should have looked at my profile. The majority of my friends drive some model of Nissan car, and I am always around doing tuning work with them. I'm known as the bimmer guy in our circle of friends. I currently drive a 1995 325is. It is just slightly over 3000lbs with the brick-heavy BMW power seats. Its been a long time since i looked at the title, so I just said 3020, because I know its under 3050, but a lil more than 3k flat. So yea, my mother (who happens to be deceased) was not in the car for that weight quote.

Looks like you finally realized you were wrong. The method you mentioned is for working out spring rate, and springs are generally rated in in/lbs, kg/cm or dyne/cm; not ft/lbs or even lb/ft which is a standard unit of torque. Your method also only works for linear rate springs. You would need a spring dyno to accurately measure a progressive rate spring, which most aftermarket non-coilover springs are anyway.

Sean D.

[Tino]

don would you just shut the **** up you dumb a**...i don't even bother reading any of your worthless posts anymore, i stop reading once i seen that you posted it. stop whining about something so worthless. if you re-read all the posts in this thread you are the only person saying curbweight is the spring load measured in ft/lbs while everyone else is saying its just normal weight measurements... i very highly doubt that all of us are wrong and you are right.

btw tino, you and me are cool now, but just a word of advice, please dont post replys that only involve quoting the previous message with smiley icons as your text. if you are going to take up space and raise your total number of posts please go to the ring with the rest of us, cuz that why it's there

:bandit k buddy

[s14=pimpin']

...whatever...

(maybe you didnt get the hint the first time... im not gonna f*ck around outside the ring cuz your bull sh*tting belongs back in the play pen... too lazy to read my post? too bad... im not gonna spoon feed it to you)

You gonna attempt to spoon fed cow s*** to members? No thanks buddy, keep your b.s. up that loose ***hole of yours cum twit! You better stay the FUC% outta the ring buddy, cause your a** is gonna get pumped harder than that fag who's lap you are sitting on as you read this message! Ring of fire, yup, you'll feel it. Just go to the ring buddy, with all your s*** talking, I told you to stop smokin that Mexican crack a while back!

NO ONE LISTEN TO THIS NOOB, HE NOWS NOTHING!

And you go off and insult freethinker, when you can't even read his profile yourself, rat balls for brains. Don, get the fuc% outta here, no one cares for your lies, b.s. and wanna be insight.