Crap Ebay Top Mount Manifolds!

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I am hoping this thread will put to dead the topic of "are Ebay manifolds worth it" or "should i get a Ebay manifold"!!!

I bought one thinking oh it wont matter Ill just brace the hell out of it and move the poorly located wastegate and ill be all set... WRONG! I just threw 150.00 down the crapper! Here were all the problems i found and i didnt even get that involved! Please no flaming on me for buying it... at least i am trying to help everyone else out! I am already myself.

1. The runners were not the right shape and not in the right spots on the flange. This manifold came with a gasket and that didnt even line up with the runners! They are more oval and not more round like the head. Pics...2. There is no room for a down pipe!!! Minor problem! The rear runner does not leave even room to fit a 2" pipe through between the fire wall and brake master cylinder. (Looks like more room then there is in the pic...3. The turbo mounting flange is in the wrong spot. with my turbo mounted the exhaust housing hits the valve cover, not to mension the compressor! You can see how far off it is by how it sits on the flange. Pic...I know all this could be fixed but why?! Its a crap manifold but it just goes to show you you get what you pay for. I am opening a suit on Pay Pal to get my money back because the seller wont respond and they say they have a 7 day money back... Yeah they respond after the 8th day! This is a CXRacing and i know the OBX is the same. Just thought i would try to help alot of you out that are thinking about buying this crap!!!


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No matter how many threads about crap eghey products get posted, there are always fools who will try them out. I know from experience.

CXRacing are a bunch of jive turkeys. They told me to modify 3in couplers to fit 2.5in piping...

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your holding the gasket the wrong direction in respect to the manifold in the pic you are showing

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i had one of thoes top mount manifolds, they are ment for the stock turbo only, i know sorta $hitty, jgy sells the same one for double the price, i asked them about it and they said that its ment for the stock turbo only, i was like wtf, itd be a he!l of allot better to keep the stock mani and use a 1/4 inch t3 spacer

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SullivanRacing06 wrote:itd be a he!l of allot better to keep the stock mani and use a 1/4 inch t3 spacer
BINGO!

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virus77 wrote:your holding the gasket the wrong direction in respect to the manifold in the pic you are showing
x2 and also x2 ebay mani's suck. I just saw an XS power one crack this weekend.

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virus77 wrote:your holding the gasket the wrong direction in respect to the manifold in the pic you are showing
I know i realized that after i posted them so i went down to try it again and they were just as bad!There is no way around it... these suck and are a waste of money! I never buy anything if i am like "well ill see how bad it is" but this time i tried it and well HERE YOU GO!

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atleast your fit the head....all my bolt holes were WAY OFF...and even if i was to modify it i seen so many flaws i didnt wanna see it on the motor....but then i up'd the ante and got a 6BOOST which i recommend big time!!!! rawbrokerage hooked me up incase your wondering

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out of the cheap manifolds you can buy why not get the obx one:



It looks ten times better.

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Look at the placement of the turbo flange... you wanna try to fit a DP down there between the steering shaft, rear runner, and brake cylinder? I hope you are using a 1.5-2" dp then! Also OBX comes from the same sweat shops the CXRacing ones do!

I would love a 6Boost but I am saving to paint my car and I have debt to pay off. I just mod the oem cast one. not to mension its a twin scroll already! Thats a plus!

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I'm not saying all cheap manifolds are bad, but the OBX/X02/CRX Racing ones that are all made at the same factory with the same cheap 304 thin a** stainless don't fit, and they crack. My Stec top mount manifold costs $400 and will NEVER crack, and it fit perfectly. 321 3mm stainless steal. Won't fit a LHD car though me thinks.

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Cjmartz2k wrote:I'm not saying all cheap manifolds are bad, but the OBX/X02/CRX Racing ones that are all made at the same factory with the same cheap 304 thin a** stainless don't fit, and they crack. My Stec top mount manifold costs $400 and will NEVER crack, and it fit perfectly. 321 3mm stainless steal. Won't fit a LHD car though me thinks.
I was thinking about the S-tec for my swap. What will cause problems w/ a LHD car? I know they show a wastegate setup that I'm sure would have to be cut and rewelded to fit around the steering.

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Yeah, that's what I was talking about. The wastegate runners will need to be moved a bit, but that's it. Some people don't want to deal with that though.

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i hate to admit it but i fabbed a ebay manifold ie redesigned the #6 runner towards the front so i could fit a 3.5 d/p, wasnt to bad, never cracked on me, the only problem was i had to drill out every mountin hole the flange had on it so it would mount up to the head studs on a rb20, sorta $hitty but in the end it worked out for me!

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i'm running one of those cheap a** ones as well. I had to drill out all the holes so it would line up, and I cut and rewelded the flange so I could fit a bigger turbo on there. I however have enough room to run a 3" DP. It did warp on me and I had to have it flattened out, but overall it has worked so far. I would deff suggest saving for a 6boost mani though if you are in the market for a top mount unit.

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Those manifolds are really inconsistent as far as manufacturing goes. All of them have problems with holes not lining up for the studs. The flanges are mild steel and the runners are Stainless steel. The welds really aren't that bad for what you pay. These manifolds have potential to be used and have success with if you're on a budget or you're really creative with a workshop full of fabrication materials.

I have one as well, i still need to finish modding it, but i also have another one on an RB20DET with a GT32R sitting on it and a giant spaceship turbonetics wastegate and full 3 inch downpipe on it with no modified runners and hasn't cracked in almost 2 years now.

On another note, dont complain about a manifold that cost 150 bucks, what do you expect?

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Cjmartz2k wrote:Yeah, that's what I was talking about. The wastegate runners will need to be moved a bit, but that's it. Some people don't want to deal with that though.
Thats not too big of a deal for me, I have afew friends that do fab so they could probably hook it up.

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Kansei240sx wrote:On another note, dont complain about a manifold that cost 150 bucks, what do you expect?
I expect what i pay for I dont care how much it costs. I am happy for you that you got the ebay crap to fit your car but I think its crap that they get away with selling cheap crap like that. Im not just inot running a crap top mount just for the "cool" look.

To everyone who had to drill out the holes to make it fit the head... think about how crappy the flow is... there is no way those runners are matched up to the head in the right spot!

I am trying to return mine now but they are fighting it... i mean come on you have a 7 day return policy what the hell!?

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i have one. i was skeptical as hell, but the shop that put my GT30 in convinced me. no issues yet. they did have to re-drill all the holes though. hahaha. but they slapped it on, bolted on the turbo/fabbed up a DP and dump, threw it on their dyno and made 453hp. for $200 or whatever i paid for it, im satisfied at this point. i dont drive the car much, so im sure it will be good for quite a while.

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Should have got the HKS cast manifold I have laying in my garage.

Sorry to hear about your troubles. I was running the moded stock manifold setup for a few years. Worked pretty good for me. I just has issues keeping the studs holding everything to gether tight.

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I would have if it was not 500-700 dollars! I dont have that kind of money sitting around right now! Maybe next year

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I am looking to get $400 for it. FYI

What turbo are you running on with your setup?


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i am not being mean so please dont take it that way, but if you dont have 500-1000 for a good flowing manifold at the time, then why are you modding your motor. if you spend 150 plus shipping then have some work done to it ( if you cant do it yourself) its prob going to be 300 when its all said and done with. rb motors are not the cheapest thing going and if you cant put good parts on it to start with then you will prob be cheaping out on the whole set-up and that can lead to peices of your motor scattered over the highway.. mabye you should just save up for a while and do your motor and your car justice and do it right

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BHFR-GTR wrote:i am not being mean so please dont take it that way, but if you dont have 500-1000 for a good flowing manifold at the time, then why are you modding your motor. if you spend 150 plus shipping then have some work done to it ( if you cant do it yourself) its prob going to be 300 when its all said and done with. rb motors are not the cheapest thing going and if you cant put good parts on it to start with then you will prob be cheaping out on the whole set-up and that can lead to peices of your motor scattered over the highway.. mabye you should just save up for a while and do your motor and your car justice and do it right
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I'm not one to bash on other products but those who have spoken to me recently about my car's current situation will know where I stand.

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Imissmyturbo wrote:I am looking to get $400 for it. FYI

What turbo are you running on with your setup?
Its cool I am modding the oem one and its turning out awesome! I have a Holset H1C.
BHFR-GTR wrote:i am not being mean so please dont take it that way, but if you dont have 500-1000 for a good flowing manifold at the time, then why are you modding your motor. if you spend 150 plus shipping then have some work done to it ( if you cant do it yourself) its prob going to be 300 when its all said and done with. rb motors are not the cheapest thing going and if you cant put good parts on it to start with then you will prob be cheaping out on the whole set-up and that can lead to peices of your motor scattered over the highway.. mabye you should just save up for a while and do your motor and your car justice and do it right
Your right and i completely agree. I never buy knock off parts but i thought hey what the hell why not give it a shot. I knew it would be shi* but i didnt think it would be that bad. I decided to keep it and mod it just for the hell of it and see how it turns out. like i said it was only 150. Dont think i skimp on parts, i would not have shelled out the cash for a Greddy manifold, oil pump, n1 water pump, and everything else. Its been proven the Knock off intake manifolds are crap i just thought i would help with these.

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I'm rockin one of thos Craptastic eghey mani's.But I have the Stock type one.Don't remember what company, if it even matters.I think SS autocrap.

But it didn't fit that well, A HUGE pain in the a** to bolt up, since the runners are in the way.Some of the bolt holes didn't line up.

But now that I got it on, not a big deal.I bought it and the dump, which I thought would of worked year and years ago.

I'm happy that its still there, but I'm gonna switch it out eventually.Also my T3/T4E turbo fits nicely with it too.!!

But when this recession/depression thing is done with I'm look at a 6boost mani.

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hey man i hope it works out for you, and im def not doging you, you have an rb, and thats a + in my book anyday, i bought an ss autochrome for my rb26 ( still have it never been used any takers?????????????? ) and once i put it on my motor i told myself that my motor didnt deserve this. i have been working on it for three years, in between customer cars, and i wasnt goin to do that. so i used my people skills and sent out some pictures and what do you know full race sponsored me ( not free at all but enough to make me smile) and now everyone cremes at the sight of it haha, its still not done ( this month crossing fingers!!!!!!) but to everyone who has asked why in the hell its not done, i tell them that i could have used cheap parts to build it and would have been done one and a half years ago, but i would prob be rebuilding it at this time if that were the case......................... either way man i hope that what ever way you go that it works out and ill be looking for the results

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BHFR-GTR wrote:hey man i hope it works out for you, and im def not doging you, you have an rb, and thats a + in my book anyday, i bought an ss autochrome for my rb26 ( still have it never been used any takers?????????????? ) and once i put it on my motor i told myself that my motor didnt deserve this. i have been working on it for three years, in between customer cars, and i wasnt goin to do that. so i used my people skills and sent out some pictures and what do you know full race sponsored me ( not free at all but enough to make me smile) and now everyone cremes at the sight of it haha, its still not done ( this month crossing fingers!!!!!!) but to everyone who has asked why in the hell its not done, i tell them that i could have used cheap parts to build it and would have been done one and a half years ago, but i would prob be rebuilding it at this time if that were the case......................... either way man i hope that what ever way you go that it works out and ill be looking for the results
Thats a really good way to put it! I Should haev learned with my civic. my first turbo kit i bought was a eghey kit and i ended up buying all new parts slowly i should have just saved and bought quality parts all at once. Thanks man i am running the oem one just modded... i think i have a good idea for it! Good luck with your build... i wish i could get sponsored!

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thanks man and good luck to you as well, and if you need anything let me know.... yea i actully got a few sponsors, i have made a lot of friends with some big companys that have helped me a lot, now if i can just become friends with eric hsu mabye i can get the tuning a little cheaper hahahahaha i might have to take him to a strip joint or something when he comes down


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