couple questions about the 240

[mugenkid91]

well first off hi everyone. im new here, i came to this forum for basic info on the 240sx. i currently own a 94 civic ex, sohc vtec. but i have always liked the s13's. i have finally come across a guy who is selling own for $500. so i just want to know how they handle, how much horsepower can i put into a ka24e i think it was. and would it be worth it to get one. b/c my main goal is to race it.

[locoluna825]

sound like theirs something wrong with it if its for sale for 500 dollars. you should start off with a better platform so look for a 240sx with a ka24de DOHC it has 20 more pounds of torch than the ka24e and has 155 horsepower. unless you wanna do a engine swap to an sr20det or sumthin else those come stock with 212 horsepower which a good inexpensive swap if you think about the money you would spend building an engine with a turbo and that much horsepower. They handle great and with some upgraded springs and shocks or just coil overs they get even better. fully independent front and rear suspension, rear wheel drive car.

[Vegascorbin]

Everything locoluna825 said is correct. However don't downplay the SOHC too much. It is a good solid engine that has good torque etc. The thing is that most of the SOHC engines are so worn that they only operate at a fraction of their potentel. Put a fresh re-build behind it and they are pretty good.

What type of racing are you going to do? We (and others on this board) do circle track racing on either a 1/3rd or 3/8 mile track and the SOHC workd great. Runs in 3rd gear and kicks a$$. For that type of racing I say SOHC.

If you are looking at Drifting or Road course then the DOHC may be a little better for you.

If yo uwant to drag race then go with a monster V8

Both engines have their place. The DOHC was used longer but the SOHC was used for a number of years in trucks. Either one will serve you well if you take care of it.

[mugenkid91]

thanks guys, im thinkn about doing alittle bit of drag and drift tho. im really familiar with DOHC & SOHC. my civic only has a SOHC with a D16Z6. right now im still workn on that cause i wrecked it lol, i know alot about honda b/c they are what ive been around my whole life, but im not really familar with nissan motors. so if im looking to drift and drag is there gonna be a motor i can use that would be good for both? and the reason why it was $500 is b/c the motor is blown, but im planning on swapping it anyway so im not worried about it i just want the body lol

[Patarach]

All internal combustion piston driven engines are basically the same with only certain specifics between models and brands. therefore if you know a lot about honda engines, nissan should not be to hard to figure out, and you can forget about vtec for the most part.

Search the forum for a day or two and you will get an idea of what engine would be good for you, sticking to a budget is another thing that will help you make a decision

[mugenkid91]

All internal combustion piston driven engines are basically the same with only certain specifics between models and brands. therefore if you know a lot about honda engines, nissan should not be to hard to figure out, and you can forget about vtec for the most part.

Search the forum for a day or two and you will get an idea of what engine would be good for you, sticking to a budget is another thing that will help you make a decision

thats good ill do that, but im definately not forgetting about my VTEC lol, i love my honda. im a fan of the 240 but id still rather have my civic.

sorry and hopefully no one will take that the wrong way

[low91240sx]

Well i'm going to throw my two cents in. First off welcome and If you get a 240 you will see/feel that it isn't even comparable to a civic for one it's RWD like stated above and the hp/torque is a whole new ball game the DOHC has 156 @ 4400 RPM and the SOHC has 155 at 4000RPM where it would take a civic to make that at around 4700 and up with the help of vtec and that's just stock now you go and throw a turbo and the DOHC or SOHC and your going to be pissing V8s off all day long I will say that the one thing the civic has over the 240 is the weight it's heavy the S13 is at 3715 lbs (correct me if I'm wrong) but all in all you will not regret getting a 240 the SOHC isn't bad but as stated above it depends on what your wanting it for

[Barnav1t]

I used to be Honda guy... I've had six: Two Accords, and four Preludes. They are great, if you like "peaky" high revving engines. I've also had four Nissans: Two Altimas, an 04 Spec V, and my S13. I love how Nissan engins deliver a nice flat torque curve that no Honda I've ever driven could re-produce. The only Honda I will buy in the future is a motorbike. I love my CBR. They make good lawn mowers too....

[mugenkid91]

Well i'm going to throw my two cents in. First off welcome and If you get a 240 you will see/feel that it isn't even comparable to a civic for one it's RWD like stated above and the hp/torque is a whole new ball game the DOHC has 156 @ 4400 RPM and the SOHC has 155 at 4000RPM where it would take a civic to make that at around 4700 and up with the help of vtec and that's just stock now you go and throw a turbo and the DOHC or SOHC and your going to be pissing V8s off all day long I will say that the one thing the civic has over the 240 is the weight it's heavy the S13 is at 3715 lbs (correct me if I'm wrong) but all in all you will not regret getting a 240 the SOHC isn't bad but as stated above it depends on what your wanting it for

true true but the 06 civic si comes stock with a k20a which is pussing about 197whp DOHC (and yes the si is definately heavier), but... your wrong about the weight bud my car is about 3500 lbs.

not to be rude or anything...just so u know

and yes i realize that i had this coming to me considering i am coming from hondaforums and the honda community to the nissan world.. so yeah i understand the critism.

[mugenkid91]

I used to be Honda guy... I've had six: Two Accords, and four Preludes. They are great, if you like "peaky" high revving engines. I've also had four Nissans: Two Altimas, an 04 Spec V, and my S13. I love how Nissan engins deliver a nice flat torque curve that no Honda I've ever driven could re-produce. The only Honda I will buy in the future is a motorbike. I love my CBR. They make good lawn mowers too....

very true im a fan of the CBR as well

[Patarach]

the one thing the civic has over the 240 is the weight it's heavy the S13 is at 3715 lbs (correct me if I'm wrong)

The s13 is 2700-2800 pounds

btw you know if your willing to make the investment nissan makes vtec (neo vvl) engines too, and nissans sr16ve (1.6) makes more power than the b16 and the sr20ve (2.0) makes almost just as much as the k20

[locoluna825]

lol i was gonna say 3700 pounds is the weight of our 350Z hahah lol yea the s13 is 2800 pounds

[mugenkid91]

either way heavier or not honda can still match any nissan, but yeah im still gonna get the 240.

[low91240sx]

My bad idk what i was thinking 3700lbs for you guys are correct on the weight.and I wasn't knocking your honda or any honda for that matter any car has potential. and you can't compare apples to oranges bud we're talking about a car that was discontinued in the US in 98 to a 2006 civic you just can't compare them. but anyhow keep us updated on the 240 status

[Kalypso]

$500. so i just want to know how they handle, how much horsepower can i put into a ka24e i think it was. and would it be worth it to get one. b/c my main goal is to race it.

If I found a 240 for 500, with no accidents and no major rust...

I would buy it instantly... all you need is the chassis.

[Barnav1t]

Likewise, mine only cost 200 bucks. It rocks now... All it took was like, oh..maybe six grand?

[Kalypso]

^ respect this man.

[Barnav1t]

Thanks.

[locoluna825]

my s13 coupe was free

[Barnav1t]

Whatya got into her now?

[ZakinaS13]

I have had Honda's and I have had Nissan's. The 240sx no matter the engine, they are all fun to drive! Nothing sux more than grabbing the E-brake in a Civic to slide around a corner. If you have never driven a RWD. Make sure to get some exp behind the wheel to see how it reacts in different types of weather. Sohc's have decent power and are fun to drive. Just figure out why he wants only $500. I paid $4500 for mine

[PyR0NiAk]

I have had Honda's and I have had Nissan's. The 240sx no matter the engine, they are all fun to drive! Nothing sux more than grabbing the E-brake in a Civic to slide around a corner. If you have never driven a RWD. Make sure to get some exp behind the wheel to see how it reacts in different types of weather. Sohc's have decent power and are fun to drive. Just figure out why he wants only $500. I paid $4500 for mine

He already pointed out that it had a blown motor... and 4500 is a little steep imho... Is it mint?

[ZakinaS13]

As a matter of fact it is in very good condition, I bought it from an old man in AL. It has 161,XXX miles on it but has been freshly rebuilt. Anyone would have been a fool to pass this car up. Unless you drive a Windstar...

[DroptopDrifting]

i paid $4500 for a mint vert, 1 owner older guy, garage kept, 66k miles, all stock all original, etc.. i wouldnt pay that for one with 161k and rebuilt... means it's had problems.

hondas are like training wheels. time to move on up to the big boys. with a civic all you can do is go fast in a straight line. 240's on the other hand excel at all types of racing. s***, you can't even do donuts in a civic, except in reverse in the snow.... sure, you can make a civic fast, but it's still made out of recycled metal...

[dc1984]

i paid $4500 for a mint vert, 1 owner older guy, garage kept, 66k miles, all stock all original, etc.. i wouldnt pay that for one with 161k and rebuilt... means it's had problems.

hondas are like training wheels. time to move on up to the big boys. with a civic all you can do is go fast in a straight line. 240's on the other hand excel at all types of racing. s***, you can't even do donuts in a civic, except in reverse in the snow.... sure, you can make a civic fast, but it's still made out of recycled metal...

^^ ^^

RWD FTW!!!

[PyR0NiAk]

As a matter of fact it is in very good condition, I bought it from an old man in AL. It has 161,XXX miles on it but has been freshly rebuilt. Anyone would have been a fool to pass this car up. Unless you drive a Windstar...

I don't drive the windstar. It's a vehicle my wife had before we got married. Been trying to get her to sell it, but she won't do it. Nice try to make fun of me though.

[ZakinaS13]

Yeah ok, Sorry for the pot shot. I apologize. All together I have both a 90 S13 and a 90 Z32, a 99 Silverado Z71 and a Sandrail.. I understand that families need family cars.

[liquid_cool]

ill drop my dime in here if ya dont mind....for $500. bones man..its a steal!...on 3 conditions!

#1.) no frame/body damage...major.

#2.) No rust!

#3.) no nasty home job splicing wire jobs on the harnesses and interior harneses.

if those are groovy..then shag a good deal and grapple an S13 off of that hasbeen....roll her home and think what ya wana drop in her:)..enjoy.