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Considering the current economy, governmental failures (not just one, but many), and other issues plaguing the US, does anybody think a coup d'etat is even remotely possible?

A common answer to problems regarding our two presidential candidates and much of the US and CA congress has been to kick them out and start over. I realize the blunt removal of our entire government is foolish and an unrealistic solution, but I can't help to wonder how much could be improved with new blood. Preferably with no personal agenda.


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Not even remotely possible.

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I guess one can dream.

And, NO. I'm not an anarchist lol.

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We don't necessarily need a coup d'etat. What we need are new faces in Washington that will challenge the establishment and not appease it, people that haven't been affected by its politics. We have to vote out the political elites that are entrenched in the establishment that is DC and those that aspire to become part of it. We also need to soften up party lines and get people willing to work across them. I said in a previous thread that if we can do this in Washington, the rest of America will follow. We've seen the bitter division down party lines in Washington for many years now and it has consequently spilled over to the rest of America in that people subscribe solely to party politics. This is the gravest threat to our nation in my opinion and my gravest fear along with George Washington's.

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The reason that this type of politics is whats in power now is that americans have chosen it this way. There are still many excellent politicians such as Ron Paul that dont give a damn about the party line and will do whats right as opposed to whats easy or popular. BUT no one supports him or people like him. To much effort involved in thinking for ourselves and people like him certainly dont get any support from their party. Its their parties system they are trying to destroy in the first place. We dont need a coup d'etat because our democratic process works we just keep electing junk.

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I completely agree. Very well put.

I actually started writing a thread about that subject a couple of days ago, but never finished it and IE froze.

I find it horrible that people vote or support politicians based on party. Anyone who maintains their party of choice is perfect as-is and does not have inherent flaws has serious detachment with reality.

I personally don't even like calling myself an independent because of the stigma the it carries. I see too many people making assumptions regarding other people because of their party affiliation and too many people making assumption regarding politicians because of their party affiliation. Those assumptions are rarely accurate.

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We need the Governator!

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Jimefam wrote:We dont need a coup d'etat because our democratic process works we just keep electing junk.
I see lots of junk running for election, but not much gold. I know I'm opening a big can of worms here, but..."If only fertility could be turned on and off..."

Too many misinformed, under educated, inbred, brainwashed, unintelligent pond scum reproducing. I honestly and seriously consider Evolution by Korn to be completely applicable in our day and age.

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Soravia wrote:We need the Governator!
Thanks a lot. He almost made thousands default on their bills because of his "great" idea. I could have been one of them (I work for a government agency).

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The "simple" solution?

Take the money away. Run your campaign from your own checkbook and private donors. Keep records. The winner gets reimbursed over their 4-year term.

Realistically, we all know it won't happen.

From a purely LOGICAL and PRACTICAL standpoint, I can tell you exactly how to fix the system: Get Involved.

Run for public office, get on the PTA, the school board, your HOA, anything. The political machine is interesting, but it's not for everyone, and the little guy really CAN make a difference.

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The only way a Coup d'etat is possible is if maybe August Busch IV decides to step in to fill the bill. That and everybody would think that since he's the CEO of Anheuser-Busch, they'd get free beer in the end, when the dust settles.

No, there is no coup even remotely possible. We have rifted our nation so far apart with the forming of parties that even if a clear, strong, Independent stepped to the forefront and offered us ALL what we needed (not wanted, but needed) and a safe, logical way to get there without stepping on ANYBODIES toes; we are so set in our ways that even the most staunch Republicans and Democrats would still vote for their guy.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

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Anyone ever read this book? http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Da...r=1-4

It is an outstanding read, believe me. First time I read it, when I was a teen, it scared me silly.

Needs to be brought back in print!

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Sentientbydesign wrote:Too many misinformed, under educated, inbred, brainwashed, unintelligent pond scum reproducing. I honestly and seriously consider Evolution by Korn to be completely applicable in our day and age.
Have you seen the movie Idiocracy? If not, check it out.

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I just pulled up the imdb on it. Looks like something I'll go find.

I'm seriously thinking about doing a lot of research and writing a book about a world without the aforementioned bunch.

Don't be me wrong. I'm not saying only Mensa status citizens deserve to be around, but there are SO many useless individuals on this earth. Removing them (from the theoretical picture, not Hitler status) would solve many of our most imporant problems.

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Sentientbydesign wrote:I'm seriously thinking about doing a lot of research and writing a book about a world without the aforementioned bunch.
Kind of like this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_shrugged

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Sentientbydesign wrote:I just pulled up the imdb on it. Looks like something I'll go find.
I'd also suggest:

Seven Days in May. (This is the movie of the book reference I just posted).Fail-Safe. Both the book and movie are excellent.

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MMMMM. Atlas Shrugged the greatest book ever written!!!!

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I dunno, it doesn't quite compare to the 1993 Nissan NX Coupe FSM.

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1991 Nissan 240sx Coupe'detat is Da Best!

You can't make a Coup in a country that is so divided. Even if you can get God by your side, there will only be half of the congress following you.

So, yeah. Impossible, especially because the people own guns.

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Plus, a coup d'etat was tried in 1861 by the South. We all know how divided the country was then and how that ended up.

In the end the Democrats will be calling for us to pull out because its a war we can't win and the government will put in more troops and finally restore order. Plus, the government has nukes, M1-A2s, planes, and what not. What do we have? H3s?

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Our government is simply too big for a successful Coup. Consider the levels of state and federal government and the size of the military...it will never happen.

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Marenta wrote:Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
"Won't get fooled again"

The Who

I have it on vinyl

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I knew that too...but not from vinyl. I love playing that song on Rock Band.

But I do have fun memories of vinyl when I was a kid. They were great to put in the middle of a street and lock up your rear tire on a bike and slide down the road.

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Joe invented drifting!

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rn79870 wrote:Joe invented drifting!


One of my friends who works at Pizza Hut offered me some pizza pans when I wanted to drift my I30. It actually wasn't a bad idea lol.


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