Cost of adding a spoiler

[JT_MONEY_2004]

What do you guys figure would be the cost of putting on the 't' spoiler to a Q. Roughly what would be the cost of:

relocating the q45 emblems? Would I need patch work paint where the old location was?What would it cost to match the paint of the spoiler to the car? (pearl)Mounting costs?

[rsiwicki]

don't forget the removal or disconnect of brake light in the rear window and the new wiring into the trunk.

[Rex]

Wouldn't it nost likely be cheaper (maybe not easier) to find a take off from a wreck, that's ready to mount?

[AZhitman]

Also, you'll need a 't' rear parcel shelf, without the CHMSL.

Relocating the Q45 emblems is no biggie, as the 't' spoiler covers the old location.

[qship96]

and............. dont forget the springs that hold up the trunk lid are different than those originally without the spoiler,most likely the lid will not stay up without replacing these.

[elwesso]

I know someone that has a T model spoiler ... I think the Q45t emblem would stay on the spoiler, so thats not an issue.....

It really doesnt look bad with the high mounted stop light inside and the spoiler.

Also, the trunk isnt a big issue, its stays up but its just heavier.....

[JT_MONEY_2004]

Wouldn't it nost likely be cheaper (maybe not easier) to find a take off from a wreck, that's ready to mount?

I wish i could, that would be ideal, but Q45's here in Macon GA are far and in between. In Brooklyn, they're a dime a dozen but the 't' is still rare.

I'm still wondering how much a small part like that would cost to color match, any ideas? What about mounting costs?

If the spoiler comes with emblems that'll be real cool, i'd have to take off the 't' tho', wouldn't want to live a lie !

Do all 't's have the third light on the spoiler? I've seen 'em on sites selling w/ out that light, but i guess those are replicas huh.

AZ: I missed that, what is 'CHMSL'?

[elwesso]

JT... That means CENTER HIGH MOUNTED STOP LAMP (light)

[Rex]

Macon's not too far from ATL, might be worth calling T3 and seeing if you can do some body harvesting or if they'd tell you what salvage yard they sell the carcasses to once they've gotten all the useable parts??

[Q45denver]

I have a dark green or black one that I bought for my recently expired 1990 Q45 before I had a chance to put it on. It seems like about 90% of the touring models were green for some reason. Don't recall what I paid but I will check if you are interested. Doesn't look like it would be to hard to install. If guess you could get a couple of spray cans from one of the color match suppliers and try painting it yourself. Not sure I would try to DIY with pearl however. Green and black would be easy to match but I would paint it the same color as your car since that is what was done at the factory.

[JT_MONEY_2004]

Good idea Rex, if i cant strike a deal with someone here, i'll call em. They did my guides, good guys.

Thanks for the clarification wes, that'll follow, i guess...

Shoot me a price denver, [email protected].

[maxnix]

JT... That means CENTER HIGH MOUNTED STOP LAMP (light)

Which I quite frankly never understood since not every brake application results in a complete stop. Hence, I prefer the original Center High Mounted Brake Light (not Lamp), because that is what it really is.

No one refers to a car's stop lights. It is always the brake lights.

Think you might need a harness extension, or a different harness to reach the spoiler. Best source of knowledge and parts is Joe.

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[Rex]

Which I quite frankly never understood since not every brake application results in a complete stop. Hence, I prefer the original Center High Mounted Brake Lamp, because that is what it really is.

No one refers to a car's stop lights. It is always the brake lights. ...

The use of the phrase "stop lamp" comes from a time when cars were much simpler (think late 1800's/early 1900's) and "motor coaches" were in some states required at night to have a man walking 50 feet ahead and behind with a kerosene lamp. The primary purpose of this was to prevent the motors from startling horses. The lamps eventually became called head lamps and (you guessed it) stop lamps. As the person would ride on the back and only hop off as the motor coach was preparing to "stop". Eventually, the stop lamps became red, but I digress ALOT.

The terminology stop lamp may be inaccurate, but like glove box it's still used and generally understood.

Wow, talk about getting off on a tangent, sorry guys I tend to ramble.

Edited in an attempt to reflects Brians edit.

[Jeff Williams]

You should be able to get it painted extremely close to your paint color, for about $200. Install it yourself, and dave the $50. Truely, you would want a new rear deck, without the hole for the factory light, and a wiring harness extension.

Worst case, for someone that did not want to do any of the work, $750 plus the sost of the spoiler.

Best case, $200, and do the install yourself, and leave the original light, just disconnect it.

[JT_MONEY_2004]

$200, now we're talking, i was about to spazz at the $750 guesstimate.

I'd do as much as i can, i have time on the wknds, but not many tools...

I dont "need" the light on the spoiler, I'm kinda hoping the body shop could conseal and paint right over it. Not sure what that'll cost tho'.

Anyway, I hope i do get a chance to do this project at some point, cause that dang lil spoiler changes the entire attitude of your car. we'll see. When time comes, i'll seek you guy's help.

**One weird thing i got goin on is, my parcel shelf is Blue, nothing else in the car is blue, i wish it were cream to match the rest of the fabric in the car.

[psychic_mechanic]

If you call around to enough junkyards, you may find one that is already pearl.

Mine is and if I wasn't selling the car soon I'd sell you mine after I put on something else. I like the factory wings on some of the newer accords and I'm sure there are plenty of take-offs on ebay. I'd love to swap out spoilers and paint the car a very candy red, but I'll be selling it in a few months.

[JT_MONEY_2004]

I've seem only one take off pearl spoiler on ebay and that was a yr ago, when i have the black Q...go figure.

[psychic_mechanic]

I'd try junkyards for Q parts, they are not very "mainstream" cars.

http://www.car-parts.com maybe?

If I was looking for honda parts, I'd hit up ebay.

[psychic_mechanic]

Looks like there is a "white" one in colorado for $150.

[JT_MONEY_2004]

Thanks for the link...I just sent out a parts request on Junkyarddog.com, so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

How is the spoiler mounted to the lid?There's a cut-out for the keywhole right?

[elwesso]

Yes theres a cutout..

I can look on my Q45t, but im sure drilling is involved.....

[Q45denver]

If they don't have one let me know and I'll sell you mine for $150 (shipping included) or please make offer. It has been awhile since I looked at it, but I think all you need to do is line it up, mark the holes for drilling and bolt it on. You do have to remove the truck lid liner to bolt it down. I planned to epoxy or screw some studs in the mounting holes first and put some wet paint on the ends of the studs to mark the location of the holes for drilling. The key hole and Q45 emblem is already on it. You can remove the emblem and reglue it after you paint it.

[JT_MONEY_2004]

I'LL keep it in mind, i'm in no rush to do this, but i do want it done.Thanks fellaz.

[nuQ]

Q45denver,

i might be VERY interested in getting your spoiler if the other sale doesn't happen. what color now? what year? any pics???? let me know!!!!jeff

[pito11213]

Damn the vultures come out when the parts come out.

[nuQ]

i DID say, "if the other sale doesn't happen"!!!!!

[JT_MONEY_2004]

For anyone else thinking of doing the spoiler thing...

http://www.carpartswholesale.c...l=Q45

[SFBayQ45]

Local junkyard here sold me a green one with the whole entire assembly (trunk, center reflective peice, spoiler, etc.) for $300 a year ago and it's been sitting in the garage. Did I get ripped off? Anyway, I'm thinking of selling it off because I need the cash for the chain guide job...not sure yet.

[JT_MONEY_2004]

OOUCH, sounds like you took a reaming. I saw one full setup like that one recently on a site somewhere, it think it was more like $150-$170. Expect to take a loss if you decide to sell.

[Q45denver]

According to this site you can get the whole assembly for $350 new:

http://www.trademotion.com/par...=3221