Cost for Rebuild?

[Kenrik]

Ok so I checked my oil today @ 3000 miles (15W40 Shell Dino Oil) and found that I was at the lowest point. What is that -3 quarts?

Anyway, I had gone into my dealer and asked for a oil consumption test before my warranty was up and they gave me the runaround and pretty much refused to do the test. They said (without looking at the car) "it's you PCV valve and it's not covered, so we can do your test but if we find that it's your PCV valve and not the engine then you have to pay for the test"

Basically they "found the problem" without looking. And if I wanted them to look they would still find the problem (PCV valve.. Not covered) and charge me for the test! Scum bags!

So... I know my engine is not going to blow up anytime soon but it's something to keep in mind.

How much will the parts cost to do a full rebuild with forged internals?? is there a company that sells the short blocks prebuilt?

I'm thinking of building the engine and slapping on a Supercharger to make 400ish WHP.

[zozoka1212]

Have you checked these guys?

http://www.importpartspro.com/infinitig35.html

zozo

[2mhighside]

Well since i have to purchase a entire new engine i have done a little research. I have priced out a stage 2 long block for around $6500 short blocks are alot less. you also have to suply them with your usable core. I dont have that option since mine has holes in it. As said before check out http://www.importpartspro.com

[telcoman]

Ok so I checked my oil today @ 3000 miles (15W40 Shell Dino Oil) and found that I was at the lowest point. What is that -3 quarts?

Anyway, I had gone into my dealer and asked for a oil consumption test before my warranty was up and they gave me the runaround and pretty much refused to do the test. They said (without looking at the car) "it's you PCV valve and it's not covered, so we can do your test but if we find that it's your PCV valve and not the engine then you have to pay for the test"

Basically they "found the problem" without looking. And if I wanted them to look they would still find the problem (PCV valve.. Not covered) and charge me for the test! Scum bags!

So... I know my engine is not going to blow up anytime soon but it's something to keep in mind.

How much will the parts cost to do a full rebuild with forged internals?? is there a company that sells the short blocks prebuilt?

I'm thinking of building the engine and slapping on a Supercharger to make 400ish WHP.

Kenrik

There is a TSB for oil consumption problems.

http://x.infinitihelp.com/foru...id=76

I am currently under the test with mine. My dealer so far has been very cooperative. You may want to go back and make an appontment with the service manager and calmly just explain that your G is using a considerable amount of oil. Don't demand anything. Just let them evaluate your vehicle.

Good luck

Telcoman

[telcoman]

Kenrik

There is a TSB for oil consumption problems.

http://x.infinitihelp.com/foru...id=76

I am currently under the test with mine. My dealer so far has been very cooperative. You may want to go back and make an appontment with the service manager and calmly just explain that your G is using a considerable amount of oil. Don't demand anything. Just let them evaluate your vehicle.

Good luck

Telcoman

2005 – 2007 G35; ENGINE OIL LEVEL IS LOWAPPLIED VEHICLES: 2005 – 2006 G35 Sedan (V35) with M/T2005 – 2007 G35 Coupe (CV35) with M/TAPPLIED VIN: G35 Coupe Vehicles built before: JNKCV54E(*)7M910256G35 Sedan All VINsAPPLIED DATE: G35 Coupe Vehicles built before: May 29, 2007G35 Sedan All DatesIF YOU CONFIRMEngine oil level is low.ORThere is unusual engine noise.ACTIONUse the “Repair Flow Chart” in the Service Procedure on page 2 to determine the complete repair proceduresfor a specific vehicle.CAUTION: If the engine is replaced as part of this bulletin, please advise the customer to follow theOwner’s Manual “Engine Break-in Schedule” for the first 1,200 miles including:• DO NOT RUN THE ENGINE OVER 4,000 RPM.• DO NOT ACCELERATE AT FULL THROTTLE.Infiniti Bulletins are intended for use by qualified technicians, not 'do-it-yourselfers'. Qualified technicians are properly trainedindividuals who have the equipment, tools, safety instruction, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. NOTE: If you believethat a described condition may apply to a particular vehicle, DO NOT assume that it does. See your Infiniti dealer to determine if thisapplies to your vehicle.SERVICE PROCEDURERefer to the Repair Flow Chart below to determine the steps needed for this vehicle.Repair Flow ChartPERFORM STEPS 1-5, page 3“INITIAL ENGINE OIL LEVEL CHECK.”PERFORM STEPS 8 and 9,page 5:DOES THE END OF THE DIP STICKREACH TO THE TOP OF THE OILLEVEL?“CHANGE OIL and CHECKFOR ENGINE NOISE.” NO YESYESNOIS THERE ANY UNUSUALENGINE NOISE?YESPERFORM STEPS 6 and 7, page 4:“ADD OIL & CHECK FOR NOISE.”IS THERE ANY UNUSUALENGINE NOISE?NOReturn vehicle to customer andremind the customer to return todealer for oil level check after1000 – 3750 miles.When customer returns, performoil level check by following steps12-18, page 6.OK N/GReturn vehicle to customerand remind the customer toreturn for an oil level checkafter 1000 – 3750 miles.When customer returns,perform oil level check byfollowing steps 12-18 page6.OK N/GReturn vehicle tocustomer no oilconsumption concern.Return vehicle to customerno oilReplace Long Engine Assy.using standard Warranty Repair Practices.consumption concern.2/8INITIAL ENGINE OIL LEVEL CHECK1. Park the vehicle on a level surface and apply the parking brake.2. Make sure the engine has been OFF for more than 10 minutes.• This allows the engine oil to drain back into the engine pan.• Engine OFF for 30 minutes or more is ideal.3. Remove the oil dip stick and wipe it clean.4. Reinsert the dip stick all the way.5. Pull the dip stick out again and check the oil level:Figure 1Figure 2If the oil level is in this range (Figure 1);• Go to page 4.• Perform steps 6 and 7 only.Dip stick reaches the top ofthe oil level.Dip stick Does Not reach the topof the oil levelIf the oil level is in this range (Figure 2; notregistered on the dip stick at all):• Go to page 5.• Perform steps 8 through 11.3/8ADD OIL AND CHECK FOR NOISEFigure 3Oil level is found in the range shown in Figure 3;perform steps 6 and 7 only.Dip stick reaches the top ofthe oil level.6. Add oil as needed to bring level to the H mark (completely full).• Recommended oil: API SERVICE SL / SAE 5W-30.NOTE: Oil that is added to the engine will take a few minutes to drain down to the engine pan. Wait atleast 10 minutes before rechecking the oil level.7. Check for unusual engine noises:• If there are no unusual engine noises; record the vehicle mileage; return the vehicle to thecustomer; and ask the customer to return to the dealer after 1000 - 3750 miles to recheck oil level.or• If there are any unusual engine noises, replace the long engine assy. using standard WarrantyRepair Practices.NOTE: For engine noise warranty claims, reference the current Infiniti Warranty Flat Rate Manual.4/8CHANGE OIL AND CHECK FOR NOISEOil level is found in the range shown in Figure 4,(not registered on the dip stick at all), performsteps 8 though 11.Dip stick Does Not reach the topof the oil levelFigure 48. Change the oil and filter.• Make sure the oil is filled exactly to the H mark (completely full).NOTE: Oil that is added to the engine will take a few minutes to drain down to the engine pan. Waitat least 10 minutes before rechecking the oil level.• Recommended oil: API SERVICE SL / SAE 5W-30.9. Check for unusual engine noise.• If there are no unusual engine noises; go to step 10;or• If there are any unusual engine noises, replace the long engine assy. using standard WarrantyRepair Practices.NOTE: For engine replacement warranty claims, reference the current Infiniti Warranty Flat RateManual.10. Record the vehicle mileage.11. Ask the customer to return to the dealer after 1000 - 3750 miles to recheck the engine oil level.5/8OIL LEVEL CHECK AFTER 1000 - 3750 MILES12. Park the vehicle on a level surface with the engine stopped for at least ten (10) minutes.IMPORTANT: The 30 minute time period is ideal to allow all of the oil to drain back to the oil pan(crankcase).13. Write down the exact oil level reading using the engine dipstick and ruler(see Figure 5).8 mm• To measure; line up the 0 mm edge of the rulerwith the H mark on the dipstick.• The example in Figure 5 shows the oil level is 8mm below the H mark.H LFigure 514. Check service records for the last time the engine oil was filled.NOTE: For the purposes of this bulletin, the following documentation for oil level checked and filledwill be accepted.⇒ Repair / work order from any Infiniti dealer showing the vehicle mileage and indicating service for“check and refill oil level”, or “oil and filter change”.15. Determine the number of miles driven since the last engine oil was filled.16. Select the correct mileage range at the top of the Oil Consumption Chart on the next page.17. Use your ruler reading from step 2 to select the correct mm ruler reading at the left side of the chart.18. Write down your results (OK or NO GOOD) based on the intersecting points of the mileage and mm rulerreading.6/8OIL CONSUMPTION CHARTMiles since last engine oil service0-500501-10001001-15001501-20002001-25002501-30003001-35003501-37500123456789101112131415161718192021222324OKNo GoodNOTE: If the engine oil level is more then 24 mm low, the consumption rate is considered NoGood.If the oil level is in the No Good range:a. Order a replacement “long” engine assembly.b. Schedule an appointment for engine replacement.c. Fill the engine oil to the “H” mark and release the vehicle to the customer.NOTE: Advise the customer to check the oil level at least every 1000 miles and make sure the oil levelis refilled to the “H” mark while waiting for the scheduled engine replacement date.CAUTION: If the engine is replaced as part of this bulletin, please advise the customer to follow theOwner’s Manual “Engine Break-In Schedule” for the first 1,200 miles including:• DO NOT RUN THE ENGINE OVER 4,000 RPM.• DO NOT ACCELERATE AT FULL THROTTLE.7/8If the oil level is in the OK range:a. Fill the engine oil to the “H” mark on the dip stick.b. Record the amount of oil added.c. Record the vehicle mileage.d. Release the vehicle to the customer.• No further action is needed.• Remind the customer to continue to check the oil level every 1000 miles or every other fuel fill up.NOTE: If the customer chooses, they may return up to 3 times for a 1000 - 3750 mile oil level check.PARTS INFORMATIONDescription PART Number QuantityOil Filter 15208-9E000 1Washer – Drain Plug 11026-01M02 1Engine (V35 & CV35) 10102-AC7M9 1CLAIMS INFORMATIONSubmit a Primary Failed Part (PP) line claim using the following claims coding:DESCRIPTION PFP OP CODE SYM DIA FRTEngine Oil Check & Fill (1) AX15AA ZL 32 0.2 hrs(1) Reference the Parts Information Table and use the applicable Engine P/N as the PFP.OR:DESCRIPTION PFP OP CODE SYM DIA FRTRPL Engine Oil & Filter (2) CX06AA ZL 32 0.4 hrs(2) Reference the Parts Information Table and use the applicable Engine P/N as the PFP.For Step 12, to be performed after 1000 – 3750 miles, submit a separate claim using:DESCRIPTION PFP OP CODE SYM DIA FRTEngine Oil Check & Fill (3) AX16AA ZL 32 0.2 hrs(3) Reference the Parts Information Table and use the applicable Engine P/N as the PFP.NOTE: If necessary, submit separate PP line claims using AX17AA, AX18AA and AX19AA for each subsequentcustomer requested Engine Oil Check & Fill operation at 1000 – 3750 mile intervals.8/8

Telcoman

[Kenrik]

Yes but I'm out of warranty they won't give me a new engine for free correct?

Also, I change my own oil, I have never had it done at the dealer. The dealership was giving me a hard time about that the last time I was there.

[rn79870]

That PCV theory sounds weak to me. Even it it were the PCV, it would be a faulty PCV and I would argue that it wasn't working properly and insist they fixed it under the emission warranty.

I'd recommend that they do the test, and if they threaten you about having to pay for a PCV replacement, politely tell them to go ahead. Then refer the matter to the service manager, and let him know that you are taking notes as you intend to contact Infiniti AND the EPA.

Just my opinion.

[rn79870]

If you're out of warranty they may not. Your argument should be a polite "it's been defective from day 1" and "It's the right thing to do".

Is your car over 5 yrs, or over 60k Miles?

[cweberj30t]

Well since i have to purchase a entire new engine i have done a little research. I have priced out a stage 2 long block for around $6500 short blocks are alot less. you also have to suply them with your usable core. I dont have that option since mine has holes in it. As said before check out http://www.importpartspro.com

highside...what happened to your engine? Too much boost?

[Kenrik]

If you're out of warranty they may not. Your argument should be a polite "it's been defective from day 1" and "It's the right thing to do".

Is your car over 5 yrs, or over 60k Miles?

it's over 5 years and it just ticked over 80k..