CONVERTING A MANUAL WINDOW INTO A AUTO WINDOW!!

[urbanskiben]

is it easy to do if it can be done??

[spank044]

I believe you need all the interior components of an automatic window and the door panel. Might be cheaper to buy a complete door. Where in town are you at?
Modified by spank044 at 11:02 PM 1/16/2009

[urbanskiben]

ramblewood apt wyoming i have a 93 door panels infact all doors but the doors r **** on the outside so i geuss i have every thing would i be able to jus mount it up

[locoluna825]

Ive gone to the junk yard and found some 240s there, ive taken the guts outa soem automatic doors and put them in my manual doors and just wirred it through tthe jam and into the fuse boxes. and it worked pretty good. I used my manual door panels and jsut stuck switches in them (came out pretty nice) but you got the panels, so your better off just takin the panels and guts of both doors and switchin them. wish i coulda done that but some animal broke the panels in pickapart trying to get to the speakers...

[urbanskiben]

Ive gone to the junk yard and found some 240s there, ive taken the guts outa soem automatic doors and put them in my manual doors and just wirred it through tthe jam and into the fuse boxes. and it worked pretty good. I used my manual door panels and jsut stuck switches in them (came out pretty nice) but you got the panels, so your better off just takin the panels and guts of both doors and switchin them. wish i coulda done that but some animal broke the panels in pickapart trying to get to the speakers...

danm that sucks so what would i have to do for the wiring

[locoluna825]

I took the ground wire from the motors to the fire wall of the car and the switchs hooked up through the fuse box in the kick panel so I could have a fuse and then to my cigarete lighter (14v source).

[locoluna825]

I think though a better way to have it stock. like it would be to run through a relay in the engine compartment and hooked up through the fuse box in the car. I know that there is empty slots for relays and fuses in the boxes but i dont know if there already wired in between. Becuase if that were the fact and you jsut stuck the fuses and relays in and just pluggin in the doors that would be really cool.

[urbanskiben]

i would

I think though a better way to have it stock. like it would be to run through a relay in the engine compartment and hooked up through the fuse box in the car. I know that there is empty slots for relays and fuses in the boxes but i dont know if there already wired in between. Becuase if that were the fact and you jsut stuck the fuses and relays in and just pluggin in the doors that would be really cool.

go i would go give ten dollars to a nissan teck if it was lol

[locoluna825]

yea now im curious im ognna go look tomorrow in the morning

[urbanskiben]

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yea now im curious im ognna go look tomorrow in the morning

thhad be swweet let me no

[spank044]

Ive gone to the junk yard and found some 240s there, ive taken the guts outa soem automatic doors and put them in my manual doors and just wirred it through tthe jam and into the fuse boxes. and it worked pretty good. I used my manual door panels and jsut stuck switches in them (came out pretty nice) but you got the panels, so your better off just takin the panels and guts of both doors and switchin them. wish i coulda done that but some animal broke the panels in pickapart trying to get to the speakers...

Or you could have just gotten the entire wire harness from the door and plugged it in to the connector inside the cabin. The main harness in the car is already wired with all the correct wires. It is cheaper to make one harness to fit all cars then to make one for each option.

[urbanskiben]

Or you could have just gotten the entire wire harness from the door and plugged it in to the connector inside the cabin. The main harness in the car is already wired with all the correct wires. It is cheaper to make one harness to fit all cars then to make one for each option.

could u take pics or give me a step by stepp that woulde be great at least the plug in and stuff

[spank044]

I have manual windows because mine is a weekend racer, not a DD. You will need all the auto window components and the plug is the same plug that the speaker plugs into. You just unplug the old plug and conect the new one. If you look at that plug You will see that the car side has 8 or 10 wires in it, but the door side has 4 maybe. Everything else is just a transfer job.

[urbanskiben]

that doesnt make alot of cents right now but should when i look in the door

[spank044]

If you have a manual doors now, then the only wires in the harness coming from the door are for the speaker (blue w/ white stripe, blue w/ yellow stripe) and the wires for the door latch switch. In the interior side of the harness there will be a white connector with 12 wires in it. The other 8 wires in that connector are for the windows, mirror, and lock. Your new door harness just needs to be plugged in and a fuse put in the box. Look in the FSM under the EL section on page 104 to see the harnesses and BF page 11 for the harness schematic.

[urbanskiben]

thank u i dont have a fsm but can get it off mitchel...

[spank044]

zerothread?id=391498

To anyone new at this debate, above is the original thread where it started. Please read then contribute your input.

for ur information u can get ur certifacation of master tech in 9 months with a tech school and with the chain links 4 to 5 links is more degrees than that way more and the links can be streched jus enough and the floating vaulves that is not wht a floating valve is that is when the vaulve is not closed all the way even in jus one area and can be cuased by about 6 things or so and i am dont with this imature callin me out expecially on this other persons forum if u want to do it call me out on my own

The definition of valve float is as follows-

Definition: A high-rpm engine condition in which the valve lifters lose contact with the cam lobes because the valve springs are not strong enough to overcome the momentum of the various valve train components. The onset of valve float prevents higher-rpm operation. Extended periods of valve float will damage the valve train.

Valve float is an adverse condition which occurs when the poppet valves on an internal combustion engine valvetrain do not remain in contact with the camshaft lobe during the valve closure phase of the cam lobe profile. This reduces engine efficiency and performance and potentially increases engine emissions.

There are two definitions from different places that are the true definition of valve float. Also if you don't believe that 4 links is only ten crankshaft degrees then you need to call up JWT and explain to them how big of a mistake they made with their adjustable cam gears. The second one is so you can make a set of adjustable cam gears to help you learn about cam and crank timing. I have a set on my 11 sec KA-T and I would love to meet up and run you at Martin sometime.

http://jimwolftechnology.com/w...S.PDF

zerothread?id=199829

Next if you read my last post you would see that I stated "approved education such as UTI or a tech school" which is what you restated in the following post trying to prove me wrong with my own information. I know what it takes to get certified, I just don't believe you are since you are 17 and don't even know what valve float is or knew the proper name for what you claimed to be certified in. Load up a copy of your certificate and I will gladly admit your certification, but not your knowledge.

[urbanskiben]

zerothread?id=391498

To anyone new at this debate, above is the original thread where it started. Please read then contribute your input.

The definition of valve float is as follows-

Definition: A high-rpm engine condition in which the valve lifters lose contact with the cam lobes because the valve springs are not strong enough to overcome the momentum of the various valve train components. The onset of valve float prevents higher-rpm operation. Extended periods of valve float will damage the valve train.

Valve float is an adverse condition which occurs when the poppet valves on an internal combustion engine valvetrain do not remain in contact with the camshaft lobe during the valve closure phase of the cam lobe profile. This reduces engine efficiency and performance and potentially increases engine emissions.

There are two definitions from different places that are the true definition of valve float. Also if you don't believe that 4 links is only ten crankshaft degrees then you need to call up JWT and explain to them how big of a mistake they made with their adjustable cam gears. The second one is so you can make a set of adjustable cam gears to help you learn about cam and crank timing. I have a set on my 11 sec KA-T and I would love to meet up and run you at Martin sometime.

http://jimwolftechnology.com/w...S.PDF

zerothread?id=199829

Next if you read my last post you would see that I stated "approved education such as UTI or a tech school" which is what you restated in the following post trying to prove me wrong with my own information. I know what it takes to get certified, I just don't believe you are since you are 17 and don't even know what valve float is or knew the proper name for what you claimed to be certified in. Load up a copy of your certificate and I will gladly admit your certification, but not your knowledge.

dude i dont even give a **** n e more an for the vaulve thin it i basicaly what i was geting at the vaulve is laging

zerothread?id=391498

To anyone new at this debate, above is the original thread where it started. Please read then contribute your input.

The definition of valve float is as follows-

Definition: A high-rpm engine condition in which the valve lifters lose contact with the cam lobes because the valve springs are not strong enough to overcome the momentum of the various valve train components. The onset of valve float prevents higher-rpm operation. Extended periods of valve float will damage the valve train.

Valve float is an adverse condition which occurs when the poppet valves on an internal combustion engine valvetrain do not remain in contact with the camshaft lobe during the valve closure phase of the cam lobe profile. This reduces engine efficiency and performance and potentially increases engine emissions.

There are two definitions from different places that are the true definition of valve float. Also if you don't believe that 4 links is only ten crankshaft degrees then you need to call up JWT and explain to them how big of a mistake they made with their adjustable cam gears. The second one is so you can make a set of adjustable cam gears to help you learn about cam and crank timing. I have a set on my 11 sec KA-T and I would love to meet up and run you at Martin sometime.

http://jimwolftechnology.com/w...S.PDF

zerothread?id=199829

Next if you read my last post you would see that I stated "approved education such as UTI or a tech school" which is what you restated in the following post trying to prove me wrong with my own information. I know what it takes to get certified, I just don't believe you are since you are 17 and don't even know what valve float is or knew the proper name for what you claimed to be certified in. Load up a copy of your certificate and I will gladly admit your certification, but not your knowledge.

dude i dont even care n e more with the vaulve hat is wahat i was getting atit is lagging

[spank044]

So your admitting you are not an ASE certified Engine Machinist and you don't know what your talking about. After fighting this long, your wrong and you lied, just admit it.

And by valve hat, do you mean the valve seat or the head of the valve? Why is it lagging? What is lagging?

[youngun21a]

I'm glad mine has both auto and manual..

[urbanskiben]

what do u mean urs has auto and manual??

[urbanskiben]

no i am not saying that or

So your admitting you are not an ASE certified Engine Machinist and you don't know what your talking about. After fighting this long, your wrong and you lied, just admit it.

And by valve hat, do you mean the valve seat or the head of the valve? Why is it lagging? What is lagging?

no i am not sayin that or admiting it now put a t in front of hat thats what i ment and buy lagging the springs r not strong enough which means that they wont close fast enough whithc the piston can hit them but wont dammage them if they are bad enough whish intern u have a floting vaulve

[spank044]

Your story keeps changing and your full of $hit. You've spun your answer to both sides of the same point and won't admit you lied. I'm done this, I hope no one damages there engine or car because of your idiocy.

[youngun21a]

yup,meaning I can use the window switch and and the window handle to roll down the windows.I'll take a pic and post it later...
Modified by youngun21a at 6:54 PM 1/21/2009

[urbanskiben]

okay i dont give a F**k what u think i stick with my answer and what i have and no and i am sticking with my answer and what it was i no what i said and my answer hasent changed