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Big mike
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Now that I've read the forum and refuse ot pay the infiniti dealership $5500.00 I will get the conversion. Anyone know somebody in the Philadelphia or Queens area who has performed the conversion before


Big mike
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Or if anyone knows the steps to do the conversion, I would greatly appreciate

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Chally
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ummm... what conversion do you mean? :d

Big mike
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conversion from an active suspension to a standard suspension

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Chally
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Thought so, but had to ask.

I haven't seen anyone do it themselves, but I'm sure someone out there has done it.

I still think it would be best to get a professional to do it, mainly for safety's sake.

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PalmerWMD
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I think using texasoils method one can keep this awesome suspenion system running for a fraction of dealer cost.

What is the problem?If its depleted Nitrogen in the shocktowers email our member "texasoil" (search thru the members section on top) he will give you an economical alternative to buying new ones at dealer.saving the hassle of conversion and retoring cars great abilities.

Fred....:)

greg_atlanta
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Car: 2008 G35 Journey Sedan, silver/black (no sunroof), 1992 Q45 (in a past life)

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Better to pay $5500 and have the job done right than give it to another shop with a lower estimate who doesn't know what they're doing.

What year? How many miles?

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Sopdadope
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Big Mike,

I've just recently performed two active suspension conversions: on my own Q and a friend's. Knowing the inner-workings of the active suspension, I can complete the work, by myself, in apprx. 12 hours.

Now 12 hours is a long time but I'm willing to bet it takes certified mechanics even longer than that. I'm offering to perform the active to conventional suspension on your Q for a fraction of what a dealer would charge.

What model year is your Q? Give Infiniti of Scottsdale a call as they have the entire list of parts you will need.

The only problem is I'm located up here in Boston, a good 3 hours away from Queens. But if you're willing to make the trip, I'll be willing to help you out. I know how irritating a dead active suspension could be.

Email me and lemme know what you think.

texasoil
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It's a lot easier to just exchange the 4 strut accumulators for my recharged ones. Then you get a smooth ride and handling better than 'standard' because it has the rear sway bar.

If you want real 'active', then the 2 main accumulators are usually needed.

4 strut units lots lower cost than conversion parts, and takes maybe an hour to do.

DAEDALUS
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I wish I could experience what everyone is raving about in regard to the actives. If I had an A model I would definitely keep it that way.

texasoil
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What infiniti did (and still does in Japan) is offer the most advanced ride control system available for passenger cars.

It is not perfect, but is damn good. Mercedes has now come out with 'active body control' since Nissan's basic patents have expired, and it is also fantastic. Costs big bucks to get however, and IMHO, the new MBZ is a far cry below the quality of that 10 years ago--both in fit and finish, build quality, and reliability.

I am still at a loss as to why Nissan made a basic mistake in not providing a factory designed way to recharge the accumulators on these cars. The type of accumulator they selected (free-piston)is 'aerospace' rugged, but does need recharging. A 'bladder' type accumulator is much more appropriate for automotive service --high number of cycles (bumps), need for low internal friction, low cost/unit of storage, etc.

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Sopdadope
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Before converting the Q's, I had great respect for Nissan in terms of the technology and worksmanship behind the Q. But my appreciation climbed to a whole other plateau after looking at the machine work for the Active suspension actuators. We're talking extreme precision boring and tapping that's uncommon even in high-end dedicated hydraulic systems... All the mechanics at the shop were left breathless at the quality of the actuators and multi-vavles..

brucepelletier
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Texasoil, could you give a brief outline of what's required to restore an active suspension? A very good friend who bought his 94 Q45a at my recommendation (years ago before I realized the pitfalls) is now thinking about what to do with it - restore it , convert it or sell it. It would be very helpful to have the information for him.I'd be glad to do this by email exchange if you prefer. Thanks!

texasoil
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Please drop me a line off the forum. I do not want to cultter it up.

[email protected]

fxjackso
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As I decided to retire my active car when the engine seized, I have good and recharged accumulators for sale. See my post in buy/sell /trade before you leap.


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