Conversion of US-spec Rogue to Canadian-spec.

[xgroza]

Hello !

I'm a freshman here.

I bought my 2009 SL AWD Rogue a week ago. I live in Odessa, Ukraine. That's pretty far away from North America.

I like the car very much but still have would like to change something. The first thing is gauge cluster. In US version it is in miles (with REALLY small km gauge) and trip computer shows me fuel consumption in mi/gal, outside temperature in Fahrenheit degress. Of course I can convert it but it compltely unconvinient to me. So can anyone help me to buy Canadian-spec gauge cluster. Maybe from junk yard or some part trading company - cause I did some research on the internet with zero result.

The second thing, I would like to use the Canadian feature - lights always on, because when I turn on the light at daytime the illumination of the gauge cluster and radio goes down and it is very hard to see it. Maybe you know if there is some switch that turns on Canadian -spec ?

Thanks in advance!

[Leo2005]

I didn't know you can buy Rogue in Ukraine. Mashina nravitsya?

[xgroza]

Of course you can! We have a lot of grey-market dealers that bring from US every car that you desire including Rogue.

Mashina ochen nravitsya vot tolko hochetsya speedometr pomenyat.

[Leo2005]

Anyway congrat on a purchase!speedometer mojno voobshe vita6it'. ne nujen on v eti dni

[xgroza]

Ochen nujen ! U nas seyachas shtrafi ochen bolshie za previshenie skorosti - okolo 100 $, a ranshe bilo okolo 4 $!!!!

A ya ne viju skorost v kilometrah sovsem i edu sootvetstvenno bistree - tak chto vopros eto OCHEn vajniy dlya menya.

[Pescakl1]

Hello !

I'm a freshman here.

I bought my 2009 SL AWD Rogue a week ago. I live in Odessa, Ukraine. That's pretty far away from North America.

I like the car very much but still have would like to change something. The first thing is gauge cluster. In US version it is in miles (with REALLY small km gauge) and trip computer shows me fuel consumption in mi/gal, outside temperature in Fahrenheit degress. Of course I can convert it but it compltely unconvinient to me. So can anyone help me to buy Canadian-spec gauge cluster. Maybe from junk yard or some part trading company - cause I did some research on the internet with zero result.

Hi, Congrats on your purchase.

Unfortunately, you cannot easily switch from imperial (US) to metric (rest of the world?) for the Rogue. Several internal computers have to be changed and it is cost prohibitive.Check the FAQ thread or do a search as a mexican member had the same question few months ago.

The second thing, I would like to use the Canadian feature - lights always on, because when I turn on the light at daytime the illumination of the gauge cluster and radio goes down and it is very hard to see it. Maybe you know if there is some switch that turns on Canadian -spec ?

Thanks in advance!

Did you try put a fuse in the breaker panel? May be the wiring is already there, just need power to light it up.Otherwise, you will have to buy an aftermarket device to plug on the car. Again, use the search function as several american members installed it on their car.

[xgroza]

Hi, Congrats on your purchase.

Thanks a lot!

Unfortunately, you cannot easily switch from imperial (US) to metric (rest of the world?) for the Rogue. Several internal computers have to be changed and it is cost prohibitive.Check the FAQ thread or do a search as a mexican member had the same question few months ago.

Are you sure that if I change the gauge cluster I would still not succeed with converting imperial into metric? I thought that was enough ...

[Leo2005]

It should be easy replacement. Since US speedometer has miles AND kilometers all you need is just a new gauge....like a sticker.

[Leo2005]

Just checked the factorynissanparts.com the whole new instrument cluster will cost $447 so definetely you should check with junk yards in canada so in this case you could save a lot.

[philipa_240sx]

Using official Nissan sales figures, there are less than 19,000 Rogues sold in Canada since it was introduced in the fall of 2007. The chances of finding a used gauge cluster for your model are going to be slim. There are also 2 different versions:

- Base & SL model - no paddle shifters- SL Premium Pack model - with paddle shifters.

You could also try Mexico. The Rogue is sold there as well.

Another long shot is trying to get a gauge cluster from a Qashqai (Europe). The Qashqai is the Rogue's twin and shares a very similar interior including the gauges. There is no guarantee it will work though.

Although the manual indicates the gauge cluster is a simple swap, the cluster itself communicates with via the CAN-BUS. There is no specific mention if anything has to be 'programmed' but if it doesn't work, you will need the services of a Nissan Dealer and their CONSULT III diagnostic tool to figure it out.

The CONSULT III is basically a laptop computer... with some very expensive cables and specialized software from Nissan. I've heard the retail cost is over $6000 US.

[Elton Noway]

Since US speedometer has miles AND kilometers all you need is just a new gauge....like a sticker.

I was thinking the same thing... simply remove the clear face from the front of the cluster assembly and replace the gauge faces. Quite a few outfits sell them. Here are two links from a company that states:

Examples:http://importintelligence.com/...-Edit

Metric Gauge Faces:http://importintelligence.com/...-Edit

While they don't specifically list the Nissan Rogue... their web site states: "If you would like a set of custom gauges for your car please don't hesitate to contact us." Might be worth giving it a shot... and much cheaper than replacing the entire cluster.

FYI: Here's a video showing gauge face installation and how its done:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

[xgroza]

I was thinking the same thing... simply remove the clear face from the front of the cluster assembly and replace the gauge faces. Quite a few outfits sell them. Here are two links from a company that states:

Examples:http://importintelligence.com/...-Edit

Metric Gauge Faces:http://importintelligence.com/...-Edit

While they don't specifically list the Nissan Rogue... their web site states: "If you would like a set of custom gauges for your car please don't hesitate to contact us." Might be worth giving it a shot... and much cheaper than replacing the entire cluster.

FYI: Here's a video showing gauge face installation and how its done:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

It is not just the speedometer that bothers me! It's a trip computer! Fuel consumption in mi/gal, tempreture in Fahrenheit degrees, milage that is actually in miles - all this information COULD be useful to me if converted to "readable" standard. For me of course. Plus I doubt that if I put a sticker it would give me "factory-quality" look ...

I do not mind to pay for the change of the whole cluster - the thing is I just need contact of someone who could sell me one! And I would like to be sure that the purchase of Canadian cluster only would solve all my problems.
Modified by xgroza at 3:25 AM 5/27/2009

[philipa_240sx]

Try this:

http://car-part.com/index.htm

Do a search for 'Speedometer'

It lists used car parts from auto recyclers/salvage yards all over North America. This is probably your best bet. I've already tried a search and there are a only a couple of possibilities. You may have to call them to verify what they have.

There are 5 different versions in Metric (and another 5 versions in US units):

- Rogue S FWD- Rogue S AWD- Rogue SL w/o drive computer- Rogue SL with drive computer, w/o intelligent keyless- Rogue SL with drive computer, with intelligent keyless

Unfortunately I do not have part no's for you. There is no easy way to distinguish the differences between the gauge clusters... they all appear the same when powered OFF. You will need the Nissan part no's to verify what you are getting. I would try contacting a Nissan dealer in Canada to see if you can get the part no.

Good luck!

[lozen13]

Keep in mind that Odometer must be changed by a approved government facility. My local nissan dealer has to send the Odometer out.Total cost to change is $800

[philipa_240sx]

I don't think xgroza is worried about odometer accuracy in his/her 'grey market' Rogue imported to the Ukraine.

However, for the rest of us this is very important to know.

lozen13, did you actually swap your speedo out to a metric unit or is this just what the dealer told you?

[lozen13]

I actually phoned my dealer yesterday. Thinking of selling thought it would be eaiser with a metric dash. I am in Alberta and they said they send the odometer to a place in BC. They need the vehicle for 10 days to 2 weeks

[xgroza]

Hello !

Unfortunately, you cannot easily switch from imperial (US) to metric (rest of the world?) for the Rogue. Several internal computers have to be changed and it is cost prohibitive.Check the FAQ thread or do a search as a mexican member had the same question few months ago.

Hello !
The year passed but my conversion from US to Canadian spec still was not made. I would like to get the more detailed information about what exactly "internal computers" have to be changed. I tried to call Nissan Canada but only spent a lot of money for long distance calls with no effect. Nobody could tell me what exactly should be changed . I found a speedo from a salvage yard (Sonshine Auto Parts) it is 2009, w/o intelligent system but WITH paddle shifters. I do not have paddle shifters - what you think if I buy this speedo would it work on my Rogue? Would it be enough to get my mileage , temperature and fuel consumption in metric? Please, any help is appreciated.

[philipa_240sx]

So far nobody has tried to change their gauge cluster here. There is no guarantee that it will work.

Your only choice it to risk trying it... if it doesn't work, you will just end up with a useless Rogue gauge cluster.

[Leo2005]

I didn't switch for Canadian but my new speedometer was from Rogue with premium package and paddle shifters. I don't have that but it is working just like my original. I don't think there's a difference between speedometer. The whole difference in additional toys that you may have in a car like temperature sensor, paddle shifters etc.

[xgroza]

I didn't switch for Canadian but my new speedometer was from Rogue with premium package and paddle shifters. I don't have that but it is working just like my original. I don't think there's a difference between speedometer. The whole difference in additional toys that you may have in a car like temperature sensor, paddle shifters etc.

I wonder what it shows you when you switch overdrive off. Normally there should be light on the gauge luster saying "O/D off". But if your speedo from the car that had paddle shifters and there should be indicated the number of "gears" instead. How is it actually working on your car?

Besides do you have drive computer showing mileage, temperature, fuel consumption?

[xgroza]

Just in case you are interested - I wrote a letter to the president of Nissan Canada and requested assistance in that matter of conversion of my car from US-spec to Canadian. My letter was forwarded to Joseph Murphy, Nissan Canada Inc. Senior Manager of Consumer Support & Quality Assurance. Here is the letter that he sent me:

"The process for importing vehicles originally sold in the United States is governed by Transport Canada regulations and is administered by the Registrar of Imported Vehicles (RIV). These regulations mandate that the importer of record is responsible for following the RIV process and complying with any import requirements. Accordingly, Nissan Canada Inc. is not in a position to assist with, nor accept any responsibility for, the importation of US specification vehicles. The information necessary to import your Nissan Rogue may be found online at www.riv.ca. Additional information may also be found on Transport Canada’s website at http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/safe ... ex-443.htm.

In response to your questions regarding conversion to metric gauges and instruments, your Rogue is designed to operate with US specification instrumentation. As a number of systems, such as (but not limited to) engine management and transmission control are directly tied to that instrumentation and designed to operate on specific inputs, we cannot guarantee that modification of your instruments would not affect the operation of your vehicle. Therefore Nissan does not recommend, nor provide support for, the alteration of the instrumentation on any of our vehicles.

We thank you for writing and trust this information has answered your questions. "

[philipa_240sx]

I didn't switch for Canadian but my new speedometer was from Rogue with premium package and paddle shifters.

You swapped yours??? Somehow I missed that...

[Leo2005]

You probably forgot because I changed it awhile ago. This one has lower miles and you was saying swapping/opening speedometer is illegal. There's a thread when I decided to solder new leds and for the test I bought another speedo but never did that.

[philipa_240sx]

You probably forgot because I changed it awhile ago. This one has lower miles and you was saying swapping/opening speedometer is illegal. There's a thread when I decided to solder new leds and for the test I bought another speedo but never did that.

True, odometer tampering is illegal in both Canada and the USA. But I doubt xgroza needs to worry about that.

So there are 2 issues here:

1) Swapping different gauges from an other trim level Rogue (ie from an AWD to FWD, paddle shifters to no paddle shifters) may be an issue. No guarantee you won't get problems with indicator lights, etc

2) The odometer cannot be easily reset. You will be stuck with whatever the mileage of the new odometer is.

[Leo2005]

Just curious if anybody tried FWD speedometer on AWD model at least to know if all the lights are working?