Continental DWS - VS - Pirelli Cinturato P7 A/S tires (NYC)

[raysworld718]

Put a post up a while back regarding a search for great A/S tires NYC weather. Great suggestions received. Ridin an 06 M35 Sport (RWD) and lookin for best option..

Researched heavy but it can only get you nowhere without experience. Any M owners with experience or suggestions to which would be best...


Continental DWS A/S VS Pirelli Cinturato P7 A/S..

[szh]

The Pirelli P7 is back? Interesting ... I thought they stopped making that model years ago. In its day, it was among the finest summer tires made - set a standard for other tires to be measured against!

Anyway, I cannot comment on your question per se, since I do not have any experience with the Pirelli model you mentioned, but they are a good manufacturer for sure.

I suspect you have already done this, but I suggest checking Tire Rack for tests and comparisons ... if you don't hear from anybody here.

Z

[Larz]

When these links load, scroll down to the tab marked: TESTS to watch the test drive video

Driving test of the Pirelli Cinturato P7:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... eason+Plus


Driving test for the Continental DWS:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... ontact+DWS

I haven't actually driven either, but these are good comparisons with the other leading brands in the same category.

[raysworld718]

Super helpful videos. Thnx @Larz

@Z Yea them pirellis is back A/S. May wanna check vid out Larz sent as well. Helpful comparisons.

[antzrus]

Tramlining is a very major issue w/the M. The Conti's don't. The Pirellis??

[phillyM35]

I went with the Conti DWS two years ago and honestly they're some of the best tires I've had. No tramlining, quiet. Had 8" of snow yesterday here in the Philly area and I got around with no problems. Gives great traction as well as a smooth ride, wearing pretty good with regular tire rotation. Will probably go with these again when I'm due for a new set.

[EniGmA1987]

Tramlining is a very major issue w/the M. The Conti's don't. The Pirellis??

Tires eliminate a good bit of it, but the alignment also has a ton to do with it because this car is aggressively aligned specifically so that it will follow the road more, hence the "tramlining". You can specify custom alignment parameters for people to do on your car that will fix the issue and help the car track straighter with only an incredibly minor loss in corner handling.

[antzrus]

Tramlining is a very major issue w/the M. The Conti's don't. The Pirellis??

Tires eliminate a good bit of it, but the alignment also has a ton to do with it because this car is aggressively aligned specifically so that it will follow the road more, hence the "tramlining". You can specify custom alignment parameters for people to do on your car that will fix the issue and help the car track straighter with only an incredibly minor loss in corner handling.

I hear you, yet a few years back on this site we were all complaining about the tramlining with many people thinking it was an alignment issue, a steering rack issue (Nissan was actually replacing them) etc., etc. Finally it was discovered that it was predominantly a tire issue; especially the Goodyear OEM's sucked. Lots of tires were subsequently tried. But the Conti ExtremeContact then the DWS were the tires that were found (then) to solve the problem for most.

Lately you don't hear much about tramlining so I imagine more up to date tires are compatible w/our machines. But before I'd put on new rubber on my M, I'd want to know about the tramlining issue with this Pirelli. The new DWS 2.0 seems to be the tire to beat-especially for the snowy regions of this (USA) country until we know more about the Pirelli. It does look good on the TireRack chart.

[Larz]

I remember the discussions about tramling. There were also reviews online about Michelin tires (just doing google searches) where drivers all over this country complained about tramling under certain conditions. I have Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus tires (nearly at the wear marks, now). There is only ONE place that I experience tramling. Anyone in Ft Lauderdale knows the 17th St Causeway. The causeway traverses the intracoastal just north of Port Everglades and as it reaches the beach, it bends north and becomes 'A1A'. The famed stretch of beach, the Elbo Room, etc. Every time I drive home that turn gets me. In all the states I've driven, and all the miles I've driven this car, that one bend in the road gets me - 99% of the time. That leads me to believe it must be a combo of tire / tread design, road surface, and perhaps the posted speed.
Personally, I won't consider any Pirelli tires as they seem to always be lacking in one or more areas when compared to Conti's, Michelins, Dunlops, and Bridgestones.

Speaking of tests ..... comparing tires in the same category ... each brand performed well in all areas, BUT each brand stood out as leader in a particular area. The Conti DWS - winter traction, Michelin - dry / wet traction and cornering, Bridgestones - minimal tread noise. The best thing to do is decide which of these conditions applies to your driving conditions or which matters most to you. For me, there is NO snow, temps at or past 80 degrees all year, with heavy rains and deep puddles so I was lookng at wet traction and hydroplaning resistance.

[szh]

When these links load, scroll down to the tab marked: TESTS to watch the test drive video

Driving test for the Continental DWS:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... ontact+DWS

I haven't actually driven either, but these are good comparisons with the other leading brands in the same category.

Interesting that the new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 is much better than the Continental DWS across the range. The first gen version that I had on my car were comparable to the DWS rather than better (I used both of these models at one time).

Looks like Michelin made some major improvements for sure.

Z