Considering to purchase Infiniti M35H

[vamar75]

Hi Guys,

First of all greetings from Romania,hopefully everyone knows where is located this country.
I joined this comunity since for a while I started to look at Infiniti cars,I like very much the design of this japanese cars.
Right now I am driving a Mazda CX5 2L gasoline AWD made in 2013
Recently I discovered infiniti M35H and I am seriously looking into buying such car even if everyone is saying that Infiniti is a bad brand and I will have issues with the car.
I like the idea of having an elegant car but still sporty,with a powerfull engine but with also a good MPG.
One more thing to take into consideration is the taxes you will pay for such a big engine for a standard petrol engine compared with hybrid model.
Yearly taxes is only 5% for hybrid compared with taxes you will pay for a regulas gas 3,5L engine.
I am talking about 70 euro vs 1500 euro in terms of yearly taxes for this car.
This is the story with Europe,you pay a lot for a big capacity engines so hybrid car should be a a good alternative.
I must say also that Infiniti is not present in my country anymore,they left some years ago,i read about the fact that the company probably will leave completly Europe at some point but still I am looking for a car like this.
The car i saw is located in Germany,at a privat second owner,it has almost 100k km and is made in 2013.
First owner performed the service at the authorised dealer but since 2018 when car has changed the owner service was performed in a different work shop.
The big question is:should I go for such car despite all of this challenges I might have?
Does anyone know or at least can provide an estimation of the cost of replacing HV battery?
This is what I can see as a first big cost in the near future.
Any advice it will be highly appreciated!

[mazz]

i have purchased 6 or 7 Infiniti since 1990 . i don't recall any out of warranty expense with these cars. They have been completely reliable for me.
Please check with your local mechanic and his ability to service and maintain this car..
It is interesting to see the cost of owner ship in Europe!
I have never owned any hybrids and am not familiar with Maintenance and or cost .
when i read about M35h on this forum there appears to be a lot of confusing info.

[vamar75]

Believe it or not I am also confused!
What I can tell is that perception of the people around here about this brand over all is wrong.
A cause van be the fact that the company did not adapt to european market needs.
Owning a plus 3 litters engine car in Europe is expensive,gasoline is expensive and yearly taxes are high.
On sales in Romania I could find only 2 pieces of M35H,in Germany situation almost the same.
Funny thing is that this model still expensive,cars around 200k km are at sale at the prices between 12K-18k euro.

[vamar75]

Short update from an Infiniti German dealer:
-start-up battery 455 euro
-hybrid battery 11.000 euro
I need to be really good in negotiation if I want to buy this car. I am guessing that somewhere between 100k-200k km the original will fail.

[Mickey917]

Hi,

11 000 is for the whole battery pack. If a cell die you don't have to change the whole pack. You can have it done by a hybrid/electric specialist.

Here is price of things at Infiniti France:
Motor assy sub cooling 215801mg0a : 216€
Reprogram for engine, trans and hybrid : 187€
Diagnostic : 150€ (always free for me)
Battery 244101mg0amf : 225€
Update GPS : 140€
Forest air stick 274561me0a : 77€

That is all that have been done to my car since new (I got all the bills). The rest is fluids and filters and regular things like tires and so. The car is 73 000 km.

If you have questions feel free to ask.

Cheers

[vamar75]

Hi,

I am really surprised,a battery module at only 212 euro?
Are we tlking about start up battery or one of the module from the hybrid battery?
Have a look at the prices from this US website,pretty expensive what I could see.
This is why i decided to step back,I can take into consideration to buy a M35H only at a low mileage which obviously is impossible,everything is over 12.000 euro even they have more than 100.000 km or even twice.

https://www.infinitipartsdeal.com/parts ... ttery.html

[Stebbins]

So this is going to be a long post but let me share some confidence with you man, I am based in Tanzania (look it up on your map ) and I recently purchased a 2012 M35h (here it’s called it Nissan Fuga Hybrid) with 158,000kms on it straight from Japan auction and shipped to my home country.

These cars despite the high mileage I had to pay $12k, plus other home taxes. i had a hard time like you making this purchase decision, I even had to write to @EdBwoy for some insights but I had to go for it because I have always loved the Infiniti styling and power and also based on highly rated reviews and reliability records.

I received the car its just like new, previous owner really took good care of it. Super clean, smooth as butter even for such high mileage,it smells new all out everything is intact. We have local Nissan dealerships where I live so regular oil changes, filters, brakes etc servicing shouldn’t be a problem. M’s are very reliable I believe.

Did some research, the M35 hybrid battery is Lithium Ion and doesn’t die soon or like a flip dead like a switch except there will be gradual deterioration in the amount of charge it can hold. Mine is 8yrs old but still manages to coast up to 80km/h on battery alone for some kilometers before engine kicks in. I think the only time you have to think of replacing the whole unit is if it fails totally or you start getting terrible mileage numbers like a normal M meaning engine power is used mostly and yes the battery replacement is expensive(I got quoted abt $3k from my local Nissan dealership excluding services)

I got no plans of replacing mine anytime soon as long as it works fine I am fine, I have seen guys beat their Prius up to 350,000km on the original battery so why not a well built Japanese flagship like M35h? I am enjoying the car, it’s a beast, super comfy and it turns lots of heads bcuz it’s not a commoner. So just go for it man!

[vamar75]

So this is going to be a long post but let me share some confidence with you man, I am based in Tanzania (look it up on your map ) and I recently purchased a 2012 M35h (here it’s called it Nissan Fuga Hybrid) with 158,000kms on it straight from Japan auction and shipped to my home country.

These cars despite the high mileage I had to pay $12k, plus other home taxes. i had a hard time like you making this purchase decision, I even had to write to @EdBwoy for some insights but I had to go for it because I have always loved the Infiniti styling and power and also based on highly rated reviews and reliability records.

I received the car its just like new, previous owner really took good care of it. Super clean, smooth as butter even for such high mileage,it smells new all out everything is intact. We have local Nissan dealerships where I live so regular oil changes, filters, brakes etc servicing shouldn’t be a problem. M’s are very reliable I believe.

Did some research, the M35 hybrid battery is Lithium Ion and doesn’t die soon or like a flip dead like a switch except there will be gradual deterioration in the amount of charge it can hold. Mine is 8yrs old but still manages to coast up to 80km/h on battery alone for some kilometers before engine kicks in. I think the only time you have to think of replacing the whole unit is if it fails totally or you start getting terrible mileage numbers like a normal M meaning engine power is used mostly and yes the battery replacement is expensive(I got quoted abt $3k from my local Nissan dealership excluding services)

I got no plans of replacing mine anytime soon as long as it works fine I am fine, I have seen guys beat their Prius up to 350,000km on the original battery so why not a well built Japanese flagship like M35h? I am enjoying the car, it’s a beast, super comfy and it turns lots of heads bcuz it’s not a commoner. So just go for it man!

I am happy to see another enthusiast, honestly for the last 2 weeks I am researching for my future car, hopefully it will be an Infiniti.
The price you paid let's say that is ok but I am wondering why you choose a japanese model since, as far as I know, those car have the steering weel on the right side.
I saw also Edboy movies, indeed he is an artist.
I wish you luck and stay away from trouble with this car!

I am still trying to evaluate which is the best for me, but at this point I am stuck and I will explain why.
I am trying to see if buying a +8 years old hybrid car is a good deal for me or not.
If I am keeping this car for 2-3 years the car will be +10 years.After this period, in my opinion, this car will not find anymore an owner since nobody will want a hybrid car so old...big chances of HV battery failure.So this will make me probably the last owner of this car.The money paid for this car will be a total loss probably so no refound by reselling this car.
Related to HV battery probably you should not take into consideration only the km of the car but also the years,some components will fail due to agging and definitely a battery is such a component.Anyhow as you mentioned if you have problem with the assembly you will replace only a module which is not such a big cost.

I started to look also at different models of Infiniti: Q50 hybrid and Q60S 3.0s twin turbo.
I honestly love Q60S 3L gasoline engine twin turbo with around 400 HP.
What i don't like on Q50 and Q60 is steer by wire system which is in place at this cars. I never driven anything like that so far so basically I am counting only on the feedback from other people.
Maybe I should reconsider my initial option M35H since is cheaper, look really nice and with almost same power as Q60.
Anyway Q60 is a beast but I don't know if a guy like me will fit in that car..I am 1,82m and 98 kg.

Stay safe and healthy!

[Mickey917]

Hi,

I am really surprised,a battery module at only 212 euro?
Are we tlking about start up battery or one of the module from the hybrid battery?
Have a look at the prices from this US website,pretty expensive what I could see.
This is why i decided to step back,I can take into consideration to buy a M35H only at a low mileage which obviously is impossible,everything is over 12.000 euro even they have more than 100.000 km or even twice.

https://www.infinitipartsdeal.com/parts ... ttery.html

Hi,

You got the item number, it is not the hybrid battery, it is the "normal" battery.

Be patient, I had hard time finding mine with low mileage.

Cheers

[Davealan]

I have a 2012 M35H which I bought in 2015, up until now my only issue and it is major but I have lived with it is a non functioning Heater Core. I have a number of post about it and the cost to replace due to labor is $3,500-4000 and I just use heated seats and steering wheel with additional layers in the Nashville Winters.

Last fall the rear window shade started jamming so in just disconnected in the down seating for the winter so will reconnect and put it up in the Spring and then disconnect :-)


But of late I noticed late shifting when in Spoer mode and some jerking when initially pulling away from my home in the morning.

I have kept it because it is comfortable, has a good ride, superior sound and plenty of other amenities.

[Interiorman]

So this is going to be a long post but let me share some confidence with you man, I am based in Tanzania (look it up on your map ) and I recently purchased a 2012 M35h (here it’s called it Nissan Fuga Hybrid) with 158,000kms on it straight from Japan auction and shipped to my home country.

These cars despite the high mileage I had to pay $12k, plus other home taxes. i had a hard time like you making this purchase decision, I even had to write to @EdBwoy for some insights but I had to go for it because I have always loved the Infiniti styling and power and also based on highly rated reviews and reliability records.

I received the car its just like new, previous owner really took good care of it. Super clean, smooth as butter even for such high mileage,it smells new all out everything is intact. We have local Nissan dealerships where I live so regular oil changes, filters, brakes etc servicing shouldn’t be a problem. M’s are very reliable I believe.

Did some research, the M35 hybrid battery is Lithium Ion and doesn’t die soon or like a flip dead like a switch except there will be gradual deterioration in the amount of charge it can hold. Mine is 8yrs old but still manages to coast up to 80km/h on battery alone for some kilometers before engine kicks in. I think the only time you have to think of replacing the whole unit is if it fails totally or you start getting terrible mileage numbers like a normal M meaning engine power is used mostly and yes the battery replacement is expensive(I got quoted abt $3k from my local Nissan dealership excluding services)

I got no plans of replacing mine anytime soon as long as it works fine I am fine, I have seen guys beat their Prius up to 350,000km on the original battery so why not a well built Japanese flagship like M35h? I am enjoying the car, it’s a beast, super comfy and it turns lots of heads bcuz it’s not a commoner. So just go for it man!

I am happy to see another enthusiast, honestly for the last 2 weeks I am researching for my future car, hopefully it will be an Infiniti.
The price you paid let's say that is ok but I am wondering why you choose a japanese model since, as far as I know, those car have the steering weel on the right side.
I saw also Edboy movies, indeed he is an artist.
I wish you luck and stay away from trouble with this car!

I am still trying to evaluate which is the best for me, but at this point I am stuck and I will explain why.
I am trying to see if buying a +8 years old hybrid car is a good deal for me or not.
If I am keeping this car for 2-3 years the car will be +10 years.After this period, in my opinion, this car will not find anymore an owner since nobody will want a hybrid car so old...big chances of HV battery failure.So this will make me probably the last owner of this car.The money paid for this car will be a total loss probably so no refound by reselling this car.
Related to HV battery probably you should not take into consideration only the km of the car but also the years,some components will fail due to agging and definitely a battery is such a component.Anyhow as you mentioned if you have problem with the assembly you will replace only a module which is not such a big cost.

I started to look also at different models of Infiniti: Q50 hybrid and Q60S 3.0s twin turbo.
I honestly love Q60S 3L gasoline engine twin turbo with around 400 HP.
What i don't like on Q50 and Q60 is steer by wire system which is in place at this cars. I never driven anything like that so far so basically I am counting only on the feedback from other people.
Maybe I should reconsider my initial option M35H since is cheaper, look really nice and with almost same power as Q60.
Anyway Q60 is a beast but I don't know if a guy like me will fit in that car..I am 1,82m and 98 kg.

Stay safe and healthy!

I am Infiniti Q50 hybrid owner. I have had the car since new and purchased it in Oct 2013. I live in Canada where we have hot summers and cold winters and all I can say about this car is that the hybrid system is pretty reliable. Currently I am at 126,000Km. Other then software issues when the car first came out mechanically it has been good. My only gripe with the car so far has been that the ball joints are not great and I have had to replace are the Lower Control arms (which are around $450 USD) because you cannot buy just the ball joint. I truly believe that the hybrid batteries should last for 15 yrs or at least 250-300K because automakers are very careful not to stress batteries. In cities like NY and California all taxi's are hybrids and they can put on a lot of mileage. And if you life in climates where the batteries don't get too stressed they will last even more. The key is to just drive the car regularly and enjoy it. The M35H has the same hybrid system so I am sure you will have no issues with buying a used vehicle. Also you will fit in a Q60 as I am just a little taller then you and close to your weight. Hope I helped.

[Mikesima]

Love the international flair happening in this thread. Interesting hearing about people's experience with the hybrid too.

Had a blast in Romania myself (Hammerd for days), amazing people and those beautiful carpati mountains are seared into my brain for life.

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