hi all, i just found out im running on basically 2 cylinders... so im buying a KA and doing a stock rebuild(balance crank and rods, mill block and head, piston rings, possibly valves, and head gaskets) and sr manifold w/ t25 at 7 psi DD...
i knew id need to b tuned but not to the extent of a new ECU and SAFC or wideband and retard timing... i wanted to get nistune but dont have a laptop... ive been searching for months now and some questions have been answered, but many still stand...
Wat electronics will i need w/ KA-T build? wats the best
confused about Turbo electronics
Re: confused about Turbo electronics (24j0hn)
A ecu tune.I've heard good things about Enthalpy and EFI Specialists.
Re: confused about Turbo electronics (Razi)
wat about timing... do i retard it
Re: confused about Turbo electronics (24j0hn)
A proper tune does that for you.
Re: (lrb_2000)
so i can get a EFI ECU, wideband, and SAFC
the wide band is basically an o2 sensor, and SAFC is an a/f mixture calculator? right?
where did u order from, cuz its expensive
the wide band is basically an o2 sensor, and SAFC is an a/f mixture calculator? right?
where did u order from, cuz its expensive
Re: (24j0hn)
a wideband read 0-5v for a broader more specific spectrum of afr values vs. a narrow band which is 0-1v and is really only accurate around 14.7. the wideband is to watch your fueling, and the afc is to adjust your fueling. the ecu tune will get you in the ballpark, but the afc/wideband is what drives it all the way home.
nistune or calum is going to be cheaper in the long run, but you would need to do a lot of reading in order to understand how to use it.
nistune or calum is going to be cheaper in the long run, but you would need to do a lot of reading in order to understand how to use it.
Re: (scooz14)
with the wideband, its a separate o2 sensor that mounts on the test pipe, right?
the only downside to nistune is its best to have with a laptop, unless u have a desktop computer in ur garage or a reallly long USB...
there is a video on youtube that shows how to use it, and its very dynamic but if u kno computers and am a good learner it shouldnt b too hard 2 use...
so all ill need is SAFC and an ECU and wideband
the only downside to nistune is its best to have with a laptop, unless u have a desktop computer in ur garage or a reallly long USB...
there is a video on youtube that shows how to use it, and its very dynamic but if u kno computers and am a good learner it shouldnt b too hard 2 use...
so all ill need is SAFC and an ECU and wideband
Re: (Logan76)
well i was just looking up on ebay and i saw the enathalpy ecu from emance and it look pretty good... they seemed reliable with their lifetime technical support...
so wideband and ecu is all i need? the enthalpy setup is running exactly wat i was looking for (370cc, z32 maf, t25, and rev limit but no speed limit )
so wideband and ecu is all i need? the enthalpy setup is running exactly wat i was looking for (370cc, z32 maf, t25, and rev limit but no speed limit )
yuppo, you would be fine with a wideband, and a tuned ecu. I would also suggest a fuel pressure gauge, monitoring of your fuel pressure is always good habit.
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unless the ecu is tune specifically ON your setup, you really do need a safc too. the "chipped" tune is just an off the shelf file based on the mods you have. thats why i said it gets you in the ball park. you really need to fine tune it once you have the car together. there is a lot of power to be had in the fine tuning. honestly, if you dont buy an afc, dont even waste your money on a wideband. casue even if your wideband tells you your tune is f***ed up, you would have no way to change it.
exactly. ^^
You're ecu tune will never be dead on, unless you got it tuned for your car on a dyno. Mine was tuned with the same setup, but in a different climate, on a dyno.. So having the safc made a world of difference. Fine tuning is key to making good power, especially on pump gas when you can only run so much boost.
You're ecu tune will never be dead on, unless you got it tuned for your car on a dyno. Mine was tuned with the same setup, but in a different climate, on a dyno.. So having the safc made a world of difference. Fine tuning is key to making good power, especially on pump gas when you can only run so much boost.
Re: (Logan76)
so SAFC, yes or no? im hearing a ton of different things...
ive heard some bad things about Enthalpy, but thats bcuz the people sent their ECU out to get tuned... im buying a plug n' play ECU thats pre tuned for my setup...
which is 370cc injectors, z32 MAF, and it has no speed limiter but has a rev limiter...
im planning on getting wideband and a tuned ECU, but am on the fence with SAFC, i live in CALI might be cabble to find a dyno tuner somewhere around here...
ive heard some bad things about Enthalpy, but thats bcuz the people sent their ECU out to get tuned... im buying a plug n' play ECU thats pre tuned for my setup...
which is 370cc injectors, z32 MAF, and it has no speed limiter but has a rev limiter...
im planning on getting wideband and a tuned ECU, but am on the fence with SAFC, i live in CALI might be cabble to find a dyno tuner somewhere around here...
Re: (Logan76)
man you really dont get it.
a good tune is constantly evolving. things like the weather, elevation, temperature, all effect your tune. getting it tuned once on a dyno is good, but that tune will require constant attention in order to keep the car running in tip top shape. its not a 1 time and you are done deal.
edit: and tuning for drivability (mpg) on a dyno is impossible as even the best mustang dyno can not simulate real world cruising perfectly.
a good tune is constantly evolving. things like the weather, elevation, temperature, all effect your tune. getting it tuned once on a dyno is good, but that tune will require constant attention in order to keep the car running in tip top shape. its not a 1 time and you are done deal.
edit: and tuning for drivability (mpg) on a dyno is impossible as even the best mustang dyno can not simulate real world cruising perfectly.
Yeah I get it just fine, this kid obviously dont know what the hell hes doing, he should have his car dynoed and tuned properly and leave it the hell alone...
I've been around long enough to know that all those factors you just named effect the performance of a motor, but does that mean every time I go up a hill or mountain I should adjust my SAFC? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. "oh no guy's its a little chilly out today, let me adjust my SAFC settings to make optimum POWAR!"
I've been around long enough to know that all those factors you just named effect the performance of a motor, but does that mean every time I go up a hill or mountain I should adjust my SAFC? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. "oh no guy's its a little chilly out today, let me adjust my SAFC settings to make optimum POWAR!"
Re: (Logan76)
well theres nistune... a u guys act like im shooting a sniper from a mile away...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjQJxWSEgHE
^^^^its da s***^^^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjQJxWSEgHE
^^^^its da s***^^^^
Re: (24j0hn)
thats what im saying. any body who knows how to search can learn to tune. it just takes a while cause you can only make minor changes, and let the car learn. dyno tuning is really only good for top end WOT stuff. any part throttle and cruise tuning must be done by logging on public roads, analyzing the data, and making changes from there.
ok its not worth arguing. there are very few reputable shops in my area that would eeprom tune a ka-t, on a mustang dyno, and simulate real world part throttle and cruise situations. me any you are just of differnt mindsets. you prefer to throw money around to get what you desire. i prefer to save money, get only the stuff i need, and learn to do everything myself. if i blow my s*** up learning, o -well so be it. pay to play. if some one else who i am paying blows my s*** up, look at the predicament i am in now.