Confirmation on rear sway bar end links?

[elwesso]

Energy Suspension 7.8120

Ironically, i have that in an article i found on Q45.org, which came form some threads that I found a long time ago.

Just wanted to verify before i bought them, i have some work to do on the sway bar this week.

[maxnix]

Looking for bent tabs? Check out what Q45tech has to say about polyurethane bushings on the rear links first.
Modified by maxnix at 5:14 AM 6/27/2005

[elwesso]

The links on the aftermarket ones are much thicker and beefier than the ones on the factory setup...

Plus i cant really get 2 bushings on there in poly very easy... The rear needs to be as stiff as it can be so you can keep crankin up that front bar.....

[squeefoo]

Energy Suspension p/n 9.8106G is what I have.

[elwesso]

Energy Suspension p/n 9.8106G is what I have.

are those just the bushings or the endlink kit???

[squeefoo]

Bushings -they come with the washers.

I just cut some 3/8" DOM tube to the spec for the spacer on their website and used 3/8" grade #8 (blue) bolts with Nylocks.

Edit: I just can't believe that they have been on there for several years now and the car didn't self-immolate from those non-OEM parts

[elwesso]

Bushings -they come with the washers.

I just cut some 3/8" DOM tube to the spec for the spacer on their website and used 3/8" grade #8 (blue) bolts with Nylocks.

Edit: I just can't believe that they have been on there for several years now and the car didn't self-immolate from those non-OEM parts

.So are you saying that you basically made your own end links?? Out of some bolts? Thats not a bad idea.

[sijoko]

I bought the sway bar end links from Pep Boys. They have a nice one that is about 3-4 in. long that comes with poly bushings and nice fat bolts. I paid around $15 for mine awhile back.

-sijoko

[maxnix]

I just can't believe that they have been on there for several years now and the car didn't self-immolate from those non-OEM parts

From Q45tech, perhaps a more astute observer of experimental evidence:

"Oh! I started out with urethane till I bent two sets of end links [the heavy duty ones supplied with bar]. Then I tried various combinations of rubber/urethane finally all rubber.

The problem is the 4:1 reduction 1" of wheel movement is only 1/4" of movement at the end link......very very hard to make a fine adjustment that stays the way you want it.....what happens is nothing then wham a sudden stiffening which will cause a lack of smoothness and snap oversteer with rubber bushings. Severe oscillations when you whipsaw the steering again due to the inability of shocks to provide adequate control over something twice as stiff as they were designed for!!!!!!!!!"

Grok?

[elwesso]

I bought the sway bar end links from Pep Boys. They have a nice one that is about 3-4 in. long that comes with poly bushings and nice fat bolts. I paid around $15 for mine awhile back.

-sijoko

Thanks siju

[RobertsnewQ]

I fail to see how a 4:1 motion ratio is relevant. Lots of cars have similar setups.

His lower paragraph is argument FOR urethane rather than against.

Incidentally, I agree with his point about bent end-links. The Energy Suspension ones are notoriously weak. Just make your own, or use the Addco (Pep Boys) ones.

It's not a bad idead to make your own anyway if your car is lowered - you can make them shorter or longer to make the arm horizontal at static ride height. That will remove any tendency for the rate to be non-linear with wheel travel.

[Q45tech]

Because I am hitting too many curb blocks, residential traffic speed bumps, and driveways [angles], I am working on a method to shim the Eibach springs back to normal ride height............that front 1" is a killer.

[maxnix]

Why not go to coil spring specialties and have them make some up standard ride height, 10% - 15% stiffer?