component speakers

[NISMOracing]

hey, im looking to install component speakers in the front of my 89 240sx hatchback. I was wondering which ones fit, only 4" ers, or could the 6.5" possibly fit. Also, any recommendations? I am not sure where to place the tweeter, so anyone who has components and really likes their setup, please share! Thanks a lot.

[HaveBlue]

i got Infinity KAPPA 60.5CS 6.5" 2-Way Components in my 1990 hatch. front doors. awesome sound even off of just a jvc headunit. paid about 160 plus shipping from etronics.com (their service sucks, prices are great.) The biggest pain was the install. a pro took about 2-3 hours to install them and billed me through the nose. you have to do some custom work to put them in.

I hear the infinity reference series is not so good. Pioneer and polk as well as most name brands are decent.

HB

[HaveBlue]

oh yeah, the tweeter went right next to the main speaker on the recomendation of the installer. it is aimable/adjustable to point up at me so it sounds great. From what i understand you do not want to place the tweeter too far from the main speaker because it will distort the sound waves (think of dropping pebles in a pond, waves cancel out)

[Two-Forty]

how much you willing to spend.

[NISMOracing]

I could spend up to around $250, i mean more if there is ognna be a huge difference for like $50 more. I don't really want to do the custom work and a hard install, so should I just get 4" component speakers, or go for 6.5s which might sound better and have more models avaiable?

[HaveBlue]

get 6.5 components, you should spend about 150-175 on the speakers and the rest on instalation at a profesional audio shop. (ask to see if they've done the install on a 240 before). OR save up around $500 and get a new stereo and speakers and have both done at the same time and save on install costs. Save up more and get a nice amp and sub (another $500)

[Anand]

installing the speakers is not that hard at all.... installing stereo equip is not that hard period. you cna do it yourself and save a lot of money...

[HaveBlue]

yeah, it just depends if you have more time than money i have more money than time so i had mine done by a pro.

[Anand]

if you have more money then that should be more than enough for you to do it yourself..IMO... so you can spend that money somewhere else. plus you get the satisfaction of doing it yourself.. but paying for it is cool 2! =)

[NISMOracing]

but...whats wrong with the 4" component speakers...they probably do the same job no? there are like four models on crutchfield.com for the 240sx, would you recommend any of them? Also, how did you cut your door panel for the tweeter? Thanks.

[HaveBlue]

the standard speakers are 4x6. this is small.bigger speakers = better and louder sound. Also due to the way physics works round speakers create better sound.if you dont want to do any custom work just get some decent 4x6 speakers for around $100 or so. you just take the door panel off and plug them into the existing plastic mounting in the door.if you want 6.5s you need to take those plastic mounts out and fit the 6.5s in there. to do this you might have to make custom mounts to replace the plastic ones. you do not need to cut the actual door panel for the tweeter. my 6.5s fit right behind the speaker grills and look totaly stock. the grills are much bigger than the original speakers behind them and do not need to be replaced.

[HaveBlue]

this will helphttp://www.autotoys.com/New_Te...x.htm

[Two-Forty]

I suggest any components by JL or Alpine's definitely worth the price range you are looking for, only complicated part is cutting a hole for your tweeter, but that shouldn't be much of a problem. Don't forget speakers will always pump out whatever is feeding it, is your headunit stock? If it is you'll notice a big difference with an aftermarket 45-65wx4 will do you fine, unless your a lowrider and wants ear bleeding loudness. Then just simply by a 4channel amp for the cabin, base wise JL makes 1000/1 amp that is TRUE wattage rms, superior power at its best, but then again you would need quality subs, JL's w7 again are the best money can buy as of now.

[HaveBlue]

The tweeter in my setup is right next to the main speaker and did not require any cutting at all. If you look at the grill in the front doors they are a perfect size to hide a 6.5 speaker and a tweeter because they are an oval shape like this -> (Oo)

[Two-Forty]

I was thinking of in the door pillar. not on the door itself.

[HaveBlue]

IANAAE (I Am Not An Audio Expert), but from what i was told if you place the tweeter far from the main speaker it will not work as well. The example given to me was that since you are dealing with sound waves they would behave like ripples in the water. if you drop two stones in a lake, where the ripples meet there will be cancelation and amplification (distortion) of the audio. I was told it was best to mount them as close to eachother as possible.

[Two-Forty]

That's why you have components, the mids will be down by your feet, and you have your highs up higher, look at stock components speakers.

[HaveBlue]

yeah, from my quick search (go google!) i found that this is a debate that has gone on for YEARS!(http://groups.google.com/group...a%3DN)Choice is yours i guess. (although mine sound great where they are)

[Two-Forty]

All in the eye of the beholder....also the water pond theory applies to only a certain point, mainly for low soundwaves, like subs, becausse it travels further there might be some interference, that's why you have to wire your subs off phase with each other. Some amp companies like Alpine's even goes as far as having a digital amp that if used in multiple application, will have a feature to time each subs a couple miliseconds one after another like dominoes to get the full potential of each signal, but I never heard a problem for component speakers.

[bruinbear714]

Since we're on the topic of speakers, which 6.5" components are better sounding, with a price range of less than $600?

I was thinking about a/d/s, focal, mb quart Q series, or CDT. Anyone have any experience with these brands?

[Two-Forty]

All of those brands are worth the price their asking, I've listened to focals and Q series, they sound crystal clear, but when using these, you won't notice a difference unless you have a 4 channel feeding it. And trust me their QUALITY sounds. CDT and ads I never heard. Focals and Q are expensive though, I see focals go for around 800-1600 for the Utopia, WOW if I had the money speakers wouldn't be on the priority top list, JL or Alpine will do you fine, but then again it's your money.

[wpts13]

mb quart is pretty nice iuse 6.5 in back deck & door. only problem is it touches the window

[bruinbear714]

All of those brands are worth the price their asking, I've listened to focals and Q series, they sound crystal clear, but when using these, you won't notice a difference unless you have a 4 channel feeding it. And trust me their QUALITY sounds. CDT and ads I never heard. Focals and Q are expensive though, I see focals go for around 800-1600 for the Utopia, WOW if I had the money speakers wouldn't be on the priority top list, JL or Alpine will do you fine, but then again it's your money.

I wasn't planning on getting the top of the line sets.. maybe just the middle set (focals 165k2, or the mb quart q 216). They go for about $200-$300ish on ebay

[Two-Forty]

It my opinion, if you buy a high quality brand get their top product, because then you'd be only paying for the name if you're not getting the top products. That's my 2 lincolns.

[Gladimor]

In my vdub the factory componets, which were crap, had the tweeters in the dash and the woofers in the foot wells, in the rear the tweeters were at the top of the door facing the rear while the woofers are by the hip. Tweeters are directional so by simply aiming them at the person and feeding them high frequency sound via crossovers gives the best effect, while the mids just put out clear sound, aiming them at a different angles towards the listener would cancel any sort of distortion at higher volumes. Like someone said for car audio purposes the only thing that would seriously affect distorsion is having two subwoofers, which have to be placed out of phase or using a high end amp like the better alpine amps.

As for 6.5 I'm in love with my alpine type r component system, it took almost an entire day to replace the 8 factory speakers and putting in the amp and sub but man was it worth it. The type r sub is a BIG unit much better built than the type-s I use to have an puts out a stronger clearer sound, I also found that the a sealed box is best for a tighter sound from the alpines.

Peace.