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StryfeS13
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Engine Specs: (Already have all of this in my car, running)

Eagle Rods
Supertech 8.6:1 Pistons
Machine Work, resurface, bored, honed
Oil pump rebuilt
Egr blocked off
ARP Main Studs
ARP Head Studs
ACL Duraglide rod bearings
ROCK Main bearings
Timing components replaced
Fel Pro HP Headgasket
All new gaskets

The turbo set-up I want to run: (I've already purchased the T25 and FMIC)

SR T25 on only 7-9 psi
Walbro 255
FMIC/BOV
3 inch downpipe
8:1 FMU w/ timing retarded slightly
Oil feed/etc

Questions I have:

- Is the SR T25 also water cooled? Or is it only oil cooled?

- Can I run 370/550CC injectors with an FMU, or do I need a tune to compensate?

- IS THIS SETUP SAFE

Things you should know:

- I will not permanently be sticking with an FMU setup. I want to get 550CC injectors and a Z32 MAF, after that, I can get an Enthalpy tune, and upgrade my turbo to an S14 T28 or anything else, since an Enthalpy tune is based off the maf reading.


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Razi
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I got your PM, but I can't send you one back.
Enable your PMs! :P

Anyways, for my FMU:
It worked alright when my car was running properly haha.
I had some issues with my air intake and it worked nicely after I sorted that out.

Good call on retarding the timing slightly.
You might run slightly rich with the 8:1 FMU on a T25, but I'm not sure.
And yes, the T25 is water cooled.
The way I did my water feed lines was reroute the coolant lines that went through the throttle body to the turbo, did some mixing and matching of brass fittings at the local hardware shop and bent some brake lines and brought them closer to the front of the engine near the pulleys, then I used some rubber hoses to route it the rest of the way.

Here they are leaving the turbo:
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Overall shot:
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moneymike
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not to get off topic :whistle: but i have 550cc deatschwerks that im going to be selling shortly

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StryfeS13
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Can I run an atmospheric blow off valve? Or will my car fall on it's face?

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Razi
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I'd recommend doing a recirc.

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StryfeS13
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I want the WOOSH, though :(

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Razi
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I can hear my BOV just fine even with it recirc'd haha.

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StryfeS13
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So, say I have a Greddy RS. I get a heater hose that is big enough to fit over the end of it, and then route it back into the intake tube, like so?

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Razi
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Yep, that's pretty much what I did.

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StryfeS13
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Well, I guess I'll do that then. Anywhere to get an intake like that besides pipingpros.com? I don't want a catch can bung welded onto mine, and I also don't want to pay 75.00+ for a 8" tube.

Thanks for the help Razi

EDIT: Nevermind, searched around in the garage, and found this...(not my pic but exactly what I found)

an sr intake tube! should work, right?

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Razi
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Yeah, that should work real well!
I'm looking for one now actually haha, right now I'm using mix and matched intake tubing from various Hyundais.

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Just some thoughts.

- If you are spending the money to build the engine, why not get a tune of some sort? Basically I'd wait until you save for everything for the injectors/maf/tune. Don't rush it and take the chance of messing up a rebuilt engine.
- T25 is really too small for a KA, T28 would be the smallest I'd put on.

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biggie wrote:Just some thoughts.

- If you are spending the money to build the engine, why not get a tune of some sort? Basically I'd wait until you save for everything for the injectors/maf/tune. Don't rush it and take the chance of messing up a rebuilt engine.
- T25 is really too small for a KA, T28 would be the smallest I'd put on.
- I think I will do this. I was thinking about it last night, I think I'm gonna save up for 550's/Z32, and an enthalpy tune.

- I'm using the T25 because it's what I have at the moment, I will get a T28 later when I have the money, and throw it on.

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biggie wrote:Just some thoughts.

- If you are spending the money to build the engine, why not get a tune of some sort? Basically I'd wait until you save for everything for the injectors/maf/tune. Don't rush it and take the chance of messing up a rebuilt engine.
- T25 is really too small for a KA, T28 would be the smallest I'd put on.
My thoughts exactly, you've got an engine there thats built for armageddon, why only throw a T25 at it? With the lower compression, you're going to get less power per psi of boost anyway, so it'll actually make less power than a stock KA with a T25. You've already spent most of the money, just finish it off right :dblthumb:

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SX APPEAL wrote:
biggie wrote:Just some thoughts.

- If you are spending the money to build the engine, why not get a tune of some sort? Basically I'd wait until you save for everything for the injectors/maf/tune. Don't rush it and take the chance of messing up a rebuilt engine.
- T25 is really too small for a KA, T28 would be the smallest I'd put on.
My thoughts exactly, you've got an engine there thats built for armageddon, why only throw a T25 at it? With the lower compression, you're going to get less power per psi of boost anyway, so it'll actually make less power than a stock KA with a T25. You've already spent most of the money, just finish it off right :dblthumb:
As I said, the T25 is what I have right now. So I'm going to run it for the time being. I plan to upgrade my turbo to a T28, or even a T3/T4 top mount setup, eventually. I wouldn't even have to change anything, since enthalpy tunes off of maf/injectors. I'm getting 550's and a Z32 maf, I'm sure I'll have room for upgrade.

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T25 KA should be a blast to drive around town with the turbo spooling super quick and gaining almost 100whp over stock at around 10psi, I'm sure it's better than driving a stock KA.

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Sunny, I'm starting to worry... did you do a search of my posts and respond to every single one? lol When I wrote that (and it was a month and a lot of beers ago) I believe what I meant was that a stock KA with a T25 would make more power than HIS built KA with lower compression pistons would make with the same T25. But to be fair, switching from T2 to T3 is not as huge of a deal as some would make it out to be, so if he wants to start out with the turbo he's already got, more power to him. [/inadvertent pun]

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StryfeS13
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Due to the epic failure of my T25 setup(problem after problem), I will be just spending more cash and getting this damn thing right.

Godspeed 18G Turbo
Stainless Turbo Elbow
Innovate Wideband
550CC Injectors
N62 MAF
Emance/Enthalpy/JWT Tune

Should get me WELL over 250 whp.

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Stay away from anything with the words Emance.

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Im sketchy of godspeed turbo's. you can get a td05-20g from forced performance pretty cheap. i think only like 5 or 600 and they'll make excellent power, they'll do over 300whp without ever waking up. theyre a thrust bearing turbo but the 2.4 liters of airflow will spool it no problem and MHI turbos are really durable. you can really run the snot out of it. with such a nice build I wouldnt cheap out now. Jim wolf tune with 550's and a 20g would be a nightmare on the street

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try a Holset turbo???

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sacrificing so much response tho. my buddy trey has a holset hx35/tial 38 12psi on his rb25 and it blows under 4k. td05 20g in a t3 footprint would be stupid, i think it was slowboy racing that got something like 413awhp on a 1g td05-20g. i kno dsm's have little relevance here but thats good power to be made with close to gt2860r response, just my 2 cents tho


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