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http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-100719 ... 7552.story

Can someone please give me a good explanation as to why something like this could happen when sane people are involved.


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Racial profiling. Adam Hernandez? Must have been stealing, right?

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Great, that explains the original complaint from the lunch lady, but what explains the call for the squad car? What explains the furthering of legal action once it was explained by the original owner that the food was NOT stolen. Further reading reveals that after it was revealed that the food was in fact not stolen, they moved on to taking action because the food transfered from a federally funded plate, to a non-federally funded plate, and somehow that was deemed theft. The charges were only dropped once the bad PR started to hit.

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They really really hate brown people?

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Or they really really like lunch ladies?

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Shorewood must be a small town with nothing better to do. This story is wrong on so many levels...speaking of federally funded food, I'm a cook in the Air Force...Last November we threw away 10 WHOLE turkeys, plus other stuff because it didn't get finished. I felt horrible having to throw that food away but we can't give it to anyone because it's federally funded. Personally I think that is a bigger deal than some kid having a few extra low quality chicken nuggets...

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stebo0728 wrote:http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-100719 ... 7552.story

Can someone please give me a good explanation as to why something like this could happen when sane people are involved.
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Sheer stupidity, Over-reaction, Fear of punishment, lack of common sense.

It's a simple case of a child with a sponsored free meal sharing some of it with a friend who is not sponsored. Evidently there is a rule that these free lunches cannot be shared by the student that initially receives it.
It sounds like the rule was put in place to prevent entitlement kids from selling their lunches and profitting at the sponsors expense. It would be difficult to prove that money changed hands.

Stupidity: The entitlement kid said up front he offered to share some of the meal free with the kid.
if that's true, the kid that received the shared food was not stealing. He may not have even known the meal was an entitlement meal with special rules.

Over-reaction: If any student is guilty of anything, it would be the entitlement kid for breaking a minor infraction about sharing a $3 free meal. Since the retail value was under $3, and this was a first offense, a simple discussion would have been appropriate. Calling the cops was ridiculously over-the-top.The administration (principal/viceprincipal) should have nipped this in the bud, unless the cafeteria workers went directly to the cops

Fear of litigation/punishment: It would not surprise me that the cafeteria NARC's followed the rules to the letter and felt they did no wrong. I suppose the cafeteria workers felt to not report something like that could result in their own dismissal or punishment. If the administration knew about this before the call was made to the police, they might have let the charges fly thinking if they get caught letting this kinda thing happen, it could result in the stoppage of the program.

What's seems clear to me is no one at the school used any common sense when applying the rules about entitlement meals.

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Nice try, makes alot of sense, one thing that gets me though, from what I read, the lunch lady had no idea it was an entitlement meal, she just called theft. Also, the child sharing most likely had NO clue that he could not share his meal. This reminds me of the stupid sh*t you see about kids getting arrested for having water guns, and other crazy sh*t like that. And even when I was in HS, if you found pot or a gun in the restroom or something, you didnt touch it, if you tried to do the right thing and turn it in, then "zero tolerance" bullsh*t would put you in as much trouble as if it were yours to begin with.

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IBCoupe wrote:They really really hate brown people?
More like fear of them. Racism is the answer to everything.

Good form.

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Just so happened to get this email today, pretty funny.
Email wrote: Scenario:
Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up mates.

2010 - Police called, arrests Johnny and Mark.. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it. Both children go to anger management programs for 3 months. School board hold meeting to impliment bullying prevention programs

Scenario:
Robbie won't be still in class, disrupts other students.

1957 - Robbie sent to office and given 6 of the best by the Headmaster . Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2010 - Robbie given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADHD Robbie's parents get fortnightly disability payments and School gets extra funding from state because Robbie has a disability.

Scenario :
Billy breaks a window in his neighbour's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

20010 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison.

Scenario :
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1957 - Mark gets glass of water from Headmaster to take aspirin with.

2010 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.


Scenario :
Johnny takes apart leftover fireworks from Guy Fawkes night, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up an ant nest.

1957 - Ants die.

2010- Police & Anti-terrorism Squad called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, Police investigate parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated. Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario :
Johnny falls while running during break and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary . Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2010 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

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Heres something else to think about though. Ok so the school calls the cops. Well you sort of come to expect this sorta stuff from public school, BUT, what about the police? I mean if I was a cop called out to the school for something as stupid as this, I would be laughing my a** off at the dumba** school staff for wasting my time. I certainly wouldnt proceed with any arresting or anything of the sort over something this stupid. What the hell's up with the cops there too?

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Our system today is messed up. People need to chill out. There is a big difference between beating a kid and punishing a kid. Today parents say "go sit in the corner and think about what you did." I bet that kid is thinking "wow I got away with that one."

My sister was a problem child. She started having sex and doing drugs when she was 13. She would sneak out of the house at night and skip school. She would sit outside and smoke. People are like "how could your parents let her do that?" What the hell were they supposed to do? When my dad told her she couldn't smoke outside the house she started smoking in her room or would sneak out to do it. Both of my parents work...they can't watch her 24 hours a day. What, should they put bars on her windows? I'm sure you can't do that either. They finally sent her to a half way house...didn't do a thing...I got yelled at one time because I was yelling at her for calling mom a b****.
What she needed was to get smacked around a little...that would have chilled her the hell out. What pisses me off the most is when people say shes like that because of "bad parenting." Well what the hell is my problem? Why didn't I turn out like that?

Also there was some kids at school that had picked on me for years. They constantly did the thing where they hit their shoulders into me in the hall way. Since I had started lifting weights I had become more confident. So one day after the kid did it, I grabbed him and bounced him off the locker a few times...never had a problem with him again. His buddy tried the shoulder thing again but I saw it coming and threw mine into him. He got up in my face and after we were broken up, once again, never had an issue with any of them again.

Another one...I never got detention my entire time in school. I did get suspended once...kids were picking on me on the bus...I said shut up...he said make me...put him in a headlock...watched TV for 3 days and never had an issue on the bus again.

Finally, I know there has been at least a couple of times my friend wanted to hit me. He has done martial arts for over 4 years so I don't exactly want to get in a fight with him but every time in pratice I use my wrestling and he can't do crap against me even though he walks over everyone else in class. If it wasn't for that little bit of fear we would have thrown down a few times.

"They" say "violence isn't the answer." Oh shut up. Let 2 boys/men throw down or let a parent disipline their kid. There is a big difference between abuse and punishment. We are way too soft on people these days.

And for the record (I look forward to your responses) I will hit a girl. Once again, I do not condone beating a girl. I have never laid a hand on my wife, even though she has hit me. (personally when she yells I just laugh and that pisses her off even more.)
But here is the thing ladies...You try so had to be equal...So you will be in my book.

Fact: If a man, even a small one, comes up and hits me and is trying to hurt me, he will get hit in the face.
So women, do not hit me in the face trying to hurt me. I do not discriminate and I will hit you in the face also. Its called equality. You can't have all the rights of a man and then extra on top of that.
It's like in the Air Force when they tell me I have to carry something because it is too heavy for the girls. Um no its not. This is the Air Force...not the Girl's Air Force and the Guy's Air Force. They had to pass the same test as me to get in. They get paid the same amount of money as I do. If you can't carry the box, find a different job...(if they are pregnant that is a different story)


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