You can't call in sick to work every week but you sure as hell can choose video games over class.
Nick
College: good, bad or horrible?
University of Kansas is an awesome college. With so many people here there's always something to do and it's easy to find people with similar interests. I don't think my classes are too bad, I do know I'd be doing a lot better in them if I worked harder...but, oh well, this is the time to slack off.
You can't call in sick to work every week but you sure as hell can choose video games over class.
Nick
You can't call in sick to work every week but you sure as hell can choose video games over class.
Nick
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Rockenreno
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I really enjoy college. Then again, I actually enjoy learning and I'm doing some exciting stuff with computers. The only downsides seem to be the immense debt I am accruing, the serious dearth of attractive females in my major, and my lack of money (related to the debt). It's great hanging out with my friends on weekends (when I'm not forced to study), but I'm not a huge party animal anyway. I dunno, I'd rather just keep going to school than have to go out and get a boring job where I have to work for/with people I don't like. If only they paid you to go to school...
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College has been great. I've met all kinds of people that I don't want to be like, a few that I respect, and seen a LOT of cars that remind me why I don't own a Honda. LOL, J/K... or am I?
Anyway, I guess it depends on the kind of person you are and the kind of college you go to. If you like people you should go to a smaller college (ironically). If you like to avoid people, you should go to a bigger college. These are the kinds of things people generally don't think of as important when considering colleges.
As for not going, that's fine if that's what you want, just know that college grads simply have more money and time to do what they want. Investing 4-6 years into your future pays off big time. I'm working on an English degree (of all things), and I'll be teaching in high school classrooms as early as 22. By the time I turn 25, I'll be pulling 70-80K a year. Not too shabby for a guy that gets every summer to do whatever the hell he wants...
But my education has paid off a hundred times already. How many times have you tried to convince someone of something (online or otherwise) who just didn't get it? While it may be frustrating, you, the college student, always have the upper hand. Hell, if you are really good at making a point, you don't even have to be RIGHT to be "right." It sounds like a joke, but I'm dead serious.
My .02, a college degree is a lot more than ink on a page (albeit a heavy-stock page). Get one if you can, even if you don't know what you want to do with it.
BTW-- If you're looking for throngs of college women, check out some upper division English literature classes. I guarentee that's where they're hiding...
Anyway, I guess it depends on the kind of person you are and the kind of college you go to. If you like people you should go to a smaller college (ironically). If you like to avoid people, you should go to a bigger college. These are the kinds of things people generally don't think of as important when considering colleges.
As for not going, that's fine if that's what you want, just know that college grads simply have more money and time to do what they want. Investing 4-6 years into your future pays off big time. I'm working on an English degree (of all things), and I'll be teaching in high school classrooms as early as 22. By the time I turn 25, I'll be pulling 70-80K a year. Not too shabby for a guy that gets every summer to do whatever the hell he wants...
But my education has paid off a hundred times already. How many times have you tried to convince someone of something (online or otherwise) who just didn't get it? While it may be frustrating, you, the college student, always have the upper hand. Hell, if you are really good at making a point, you don't even have to be RIGHT to be "right." It sounds like a joke, but I'm dead serious.
My .02, a college degree is a lot more than ink on a page (albeit a heavy-stock page). Get one if you can, even if you don't know what you want to do with it.
BTW-- If you're looking for throngs of college women, check out some upper division English literature classes. I guarentee that's where they're hiding...
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A little clarification--
1. I am suggesting such high salaries as they have been reported to me from teachers in the more affluent areas of Southern California. The economic climate is a little different than KA.
2. Those of us who do not live in So Cal may not be aware of the skyrocketing cost of living. As I explained to a fellow NICO member in an e-mail, the median cost of an average house (basically average cost, average house) in many parts of Southern California is 400K-500K. Again, the economic climate is a little different than KA.
3. Teachers, like anyone else, pay out on insurance and retirement plans. It's not like they keep all 70K every year.
4. Also, because of the nature of the job and social climate (especially in CA) some teachers spend up to $2500 securing a lawyer.
5. Finally, let's remember that, as in all professions, one must maintain his or her position for a few years before being granted tenure (in the case of teachers, professors as well). The average career span for a So Cal teacher is... wait for it... wait for it... FIVE YEARS. That's it. That's why "they" as a group are so underpaid. Most of them never make tenure.
So when I suggest that "by the time I turn 25, I'll be pulling 70-80K a year" it is admittedly an exaggeration. I may have to wait until I'm 30, and only then if the students don't eat me alive in those first five years.
Please do not confuse my age for ignorance. I am only reporting what I have read and been told. My apologies for any confusion on the matter. But the bottom line doesn't change... College is good.
1. I am suggesting such high salaries as they have been reported to me from teachers in the more affluent areas of Southern California. The economic climate is a little different than KA.
2. Those of us who do not live in So Cal may not be aware of the skyrocketing cost of living. As I explained to a fellow NICO member in an e-mail, the median cost of an average house (basically average cost, average house) in many parts of Southern California is 400K-500K. Again, the economic climate is a little different than KA.
3. Teachers, like anyone else, pay out on insurance and retirement plans. It's not like they keep all 70K every year.
4. Also, because of the nature of the job and social climate (especially in CA) some teachers spend up to $2500 securing a lawyer.
5. Finally, let's remember that, as in all professions, one must maintain his or her position for a few years before being granted tenure (in the case of teachers, professors as well). The average career span for a So Cal teacher is... wait for it... wait for it... FIVE YEARS. That's it. That's why "they" as a group are so underpaid. Most of them never make tenure.
So when I suggest that "by the time I turn 25, I'll be pulling 70-80K a year" it is admittedly an exaggeration. I may have to wait until I'm 30, and only then if the students don't eat me alive in those first five years.
Please do not confuse my age for ignorance. I am only reporting what I have read and been told. My apologies for any confusion on the matter. But the bottom line doesn't change... College is good.
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masticatingcow
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Go to business for money-- only if you are cutthroat enough to keep up. Corporate mergers, layoffs, etc don't make for a high level of job security. But you're right, that's where the money REALLY is.Bunta240 wrote:Go to Business for money, or be a PE teacher for the easiest job I can think of.
or be a PE teacher for the easiest job you can think of-- I'd be careful who you say that to- teaching, any kind of teaching, is not EASY. If you want an easy job, be a CPA. (No offense to any CPAs out there! Two of my buddies are already loving it, only cranking 12-hour-days when taxes are due... That said, they're really not loving it right now...)
EDIT: The difficulty of a job is in no way related to its pay. It's all about one's education and demand for the job. I know people making 15K every MONTH running a CAT Scan machine (a kind of X-Ray technology) in a hospital. And you know, your teachers and professors are working their A$$es off in the classroom and at home to contribute to educating their students. What makes THAT hard is that, as most of you will recall, almost NOBODY cares about what they are trying to do. In that vein, I think teachers would be underpaid if they all made 100K a year.
I too live in SoCal. And I'm fully aware of the cost of housing here, having bought a house this past August. Maybe the state considers housing costs during salary reviews; I can say that most corporations do not, inasmuch as their profits, if anything, shrink when real estate prices rise. I've been at my job for almost 6 years now.
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masticatingcow wrote:BTW-- If you're looking for throngs of college women, check out some upper division English literature classes. I guarentee that's where they're hiding...
Ha. I went to a predominantly male college (at the time), and it was very easy finding college women. The off-campus house I was in was next door to a local nursing school dormitory. (200) 18-21 year old female nursing students all looking to blow off steam. Like I said earlier, College is a great experience.