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slikklogic
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anybody have reviews of the spec stage 3 or the south bend tz clutchs? or even a white buddy set up..which im still not sure which motor your spose to get the flywhee from cuz the truck has bout 4 motors
im planning for bout 300whp but for drift i need it to hold more like 350 or 400tq.


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I'm pretty sure its a RB20 flywheel that lets you use a 350z clutch and pressure plate. You can probably search to be sure.

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ACT extreme 6 puck disc with the heavy duty plate. Mild pedal, great feel, holds damn near anything and reasonable priced for what you get out of it. Its what i run in my CA now and i have no complaints.
http://www.frsport.com/ACT-NX1-HDG6-Str ... 15449.html

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white bunny u can use everything from a 93 truck, I think I even used the t/o bearing the kit came with. Upgrading mine ,it should arrive in the next week or 2, will be a 12.5 lbs flywheel.
MY main complaint of the white bunny is its weight, your looking at 20+/- pounds over stock flywheel/clutch setup., well my fw was 30lbs alone and the clutch is much larger than stock equaling more weight to spin up and down. So with my logic the total weight should be closer to stock once 18lbs is removed. And including the flywheel but excluding the original one I bought the cost is right at 300 bux, for a lightend f/w and clutch that can hold 350/400ftlbs, Not sure if the a/m flywheel can take a 350z(250mm) but I will check it out when it gets here.

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If white bunny and need to loose weight just find a lightened RB flywheel and the 350z clutch.

I like ACT as well, have heavy duty street disc and extreme pressure plate, feels fine.

I had a SPEC 2 when NA and never had a problem.

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I have a SPEC, love it.

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i just have a soft spot for my yellow ACT's or my orange Centerforces. wont find anything else in my shop. you deff cant go wrong with a Centerforce dual friction. ive never heard of white bunny. i tend to stick with names with reps but hey... look at my build thread, im a label whore

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s13drifter88 wrote:i just have a soft spot for my yellow ACT's or my orange Centerforces. wont find anything else in my shop. you deff cant go wrong with a Centerforce dual friction. ive never heard of white bunny. i tend to stick with names with reps but hey... look at my build thread, im a label whore
White Bunny is not a brand, it is the name given to using flywheel/clutch from other Nissan autos. IE: RB20 flywheel with 350Z clutch.

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white bunny is a SN for the original person(or was it his cars name?) to do the d21 clutch/flywheel setup, the name was more or less given to the clutch setup..
I dont need a fancy name on any parts minus the turbo and wideband... my clutch is from autozone, and it hold 25psi of boost ,on a ka.. lol and its a stock replacement,not performance... How much is your dual friction clutch,and what is the rating on it?

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I dont kno what the centerforce for a ka cost. i bought the one i have for $50 new in box since the car it was going to go in got totalled. Sweet deal for me. I do have 3 ACT's on my wall tho lol. theyre usually in the 3-400ish range for the g body camaros and t/a's that ive installed several in. The ACT currently for my CA is rated to 389ft lbs and thats a 6 puck sprung extreme disc with heavy duty plate. the sheet on my extreme 4 puck sprung with with extreme plate is 451ft lbs and idk what my 6 puck unsprung extreme kit is. there wasnt a spec sheet in the box and i havnt bothered to look it up. I like centerforces tho for the counterweights that pull out and increase in clamping force as rpm's increase. you can use a milder pressure pate and still get a form clamping force while making it easier on hydraulics

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well I do and I cannot justify spending 357 plus s&h for a clutch. I can however justify a oem replacement clutch with a lifetime warranty that I know from experience can handle more power than I ever plan to run. And if I play my cards right I will get like a 90 dollar credit at azone for my flywheel, when I show them the broken bolt, hell when my flywheel gets here I might toast the clutch just to get a replacement;)

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a stock clutch cant be holding 25psi..disc should blow apart..meh act has a weird feel i wanted to try somthing new.i got a comp 4 in my civic n i hate it along 3 other ppl i kno with it..speaking of clutchs why is a slave cylinder such a serious job? fckn on it 3 hours cant get a pedal right..has it got somthing to do with this clutch block?

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Remove dampner.

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this car pissed me of so bad last night tryn to bleed it that i dented my roof lol.can i jus remove the big loop and plug the block without bending that line? cuz im not risking that right now

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Plug the block? WAT?

Remove the dampner box/line, then just bend that line about 120 degrees to connect the rubber line. Its not a problem.

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acctually i jus did it lol i used a heat gun to make sure it has less chance of cracking n barrow the bending tool..turns out the block bleeder was broken..now back to clutchs lol ive seen this south bend tz thing.. any reviews?

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i dont know anything about. as i said before, im a biased label whore

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slikklogic wrote:a stock clutch cant be holding 25psi..disc should blow apart..meh act has a weird feel i wanted to try somthing new.i got a comp 4 in my civic n i hate it along 3 other ppl i kno with it..speaking of clutchs why is a slave cylinder such a serious job? fckn on it 3 hours cant get a pedal right..has it got somthing to do with this clutch block?

ok well when my wg line came off and I spiked(reads to 25 and the peg sound is what alerted me to overboost) max on my gauge it was not a white bunny setup that cost 200 bux for the pp/fw/clutch .. wtf

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yea its cheap and aid to hold 400tq..idk if autozone can hold that on any car lol

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idk if id trust autozone to hold itself. i put an autozone clutch in my truck once and 20k later i had to replace it and the OE nissan clutch went 123k. they said they would warranty it but i didntn feel like having to do it again in another 20k so i went and got one from the dealership.only good things autozone has are zip ties, sealant, hoses and hose clamps

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yea thats about it

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i have a southbend but its the ofe stage 3 clutch. It grabs real well, kind of a light pressure plate though. the engagement is smooth and it holds up to the 9 pounds of boost im running on my dual cam. i would recommend south bend.

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oo i was gonna run at least 12psi and beat the hell outta it drifting and drag and circuit and then go on trip to fl and back lol

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Order a Centerforce and enjoy. Theyre a little pricey but hey, It costs to be the boss lmao. Buy a good clutch, you wont regret it in the end and you can skip the headache of trying to peice something together.

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man you know nothing and its obvious, the white bunny is a proven,known,cheap setup... get some facts together,I bet you think an injen intake make more power than an ebay replica... now go buy a centerforce boss

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slikklogic
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^lol who?.. im seeing a lean into centerforce

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s13drifter88
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wow, somebody's estrogen is way off today. Im saying I prefer and would recommend buying a Centerforce or ACT over piecing something together. It may be proven, of that I have no doubt and have no reason to doubt but I bet you also dont doubt that a Centerforce clutch is a quality product made by a reputable manufacturer. It just plain preference buddy, no need to get your thong in a knot. In the end, when I log off, its really not gonna matter to me cause its not my money being spent anyway

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slikklogic
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yea true.this white bunny setup has alota different stories of which its made of and i think it grinds the housing alittle lol

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i have no experience with this white bunny so I cant really judge but it sounds like a combobulation of one flywheel and some other disc, and I could be very wrong and Im open to correction. When I need a clutch I order an ACT or Centerforce. Thats it, done. No questions, no hassle, no worries. I work very hard for my money so if Im going to spend it it will be no guessing, no trouble and no worries product. Hell if you dont want an ACT or Centerforce get a Comp or a Spece stage 2. Theyre good clutches. Never owned either but I have friends that are using them right now. I fragged an OS Giken super single in a friends stock rb25 swapped 240, helped him put in his spec stage 2. Works fine, no probs, cant complain.

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os giken? never heard of it.i have a comp stage 4 in my other car.not fond of it. i think its gonna eat my syncros because disengagements dont feel good when u shift. 3 of my friends have same clutch and same problem in diff motors. maybe its just there fwd series..but im like 90% on the spec 3 cuz i dont think the 2 will hold the abuse of when i go into track mode lol


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