clutch opinions plz!!!!!

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need to replace my clutch, first off the car has been sitting for a year because my clutch, alternator, fuel pump and battery decided to die on me all within 2 weeks. now that it has been sitting my tires had flat spots in them and 2 injectors are now leaking out of the top o-rings. well i bought some cheap warrior hr 205-60-15 tires for 200.00 to get it rolling, bought a reman alternator from: http://stores.ebay.com/CALIFOR...QtZkm for like 96.0000 sent to my door. havent bought the fuel pump yet but will be buying walbro 255 from ebay.

anyway on the clutch, i would like a heavy duty street clutch (motor is stock except for a big ol k+n filter) mianly because of the longer life. im caught between 1) act heavy duty street clutch, 360.00+ and i believe it gives roughtly 40% holding over stock or 2) centerforce stage one clutch kit, 150.00 and holds 30% over stock.

i was wondering if anyone has personally tired the centerforce clutch, i know act is good but if i can get a decent clutch for a little less money why not.

i have searched about the centerforce clutch on the forum and i didnt come across any opinions which is why im asking, any comments would help thx!!


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I've heard not-so-good things about 'senseless force' clutches, and some SPEC models clutches have some design issues as well.

ACT is excellent but very expensive.. another option (one i am going with) is the RPS Street Clutch, it's $245 a SPLparts (our sponsor). RPS is a very well known clutch used by the Supra and DSM community for turbo applications. I've only heard the best about them (along with ACT). Check 'em out.

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http://www.southbendclutch.com/ I got my clutch from them and all I can say about it is good news. Got the rally series clutch, $170 shipped and holds 30% torque more than the stock clutch. Best thing of it is no break in period. The pedal feel is softer than stock too. Practically all of my friends have this clutch in their cars and trucks, from a stock ford f-250 to a 600whp supra.

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i have a KA/DE centerforce dual friction in mine. i like it, it holds great and its a pain in the *** to drive. i had a South Bend DXD in my last car, and i like it alot too (6-puck, not so daily driver friendly)

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Dookie wrote: http://www.southbendclutch.com/ I got my clutch from them and all I can say about it is good news. Got the rally series clutch, $170 shipped and holds 30% torque more than the stock clutch. Best thing of it is no break in period. The pedal feel is softer than stock too. Practically all of my friends have this clutch in their cars and trucks, from a stock ford f-250 to a 600whp supra.
Wow those are some good prices and testimonials!

How long have you had yours? And no break-in period? How many miles are people putting on these things?

edit: wow i just came up on some nasty incidences too. NM.

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They told me its a 0 break in, but I was a little cautious. But you do have to get your flywheel resurfaced to keep the warranty active.I sorta did a little break in, 100 or so city miles +150 highway miles to a drift event. Had 2 days to do a little break in the thing, not much, then I beat the living hell out of it at a drift event, clutch gripped perfectly, although right before my run, my t/o bearing made the funniest noise for a second, put it in gear and took off and it never made it again. I also only see a couple of negative testimonals about their clutches, but those are on diesels that tow, puts alot of strain on those.

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whats wrong with an oem? theyre really cheap and since you dont have much horsepower? it'll feel the smoothest out of all of them

http://www.courtesyparts.com/S13_clutch.html

62 bucks for a disc you could run through 3-4 of them before one ACT. or whatever other brand

unless you plan to turbo or whatever.

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i agree with you on using a stock clutch for my 99.9% stock car, but, i go through stock clutches like i do sockets. im always racing around with my friends (one has a 94 firebird formula with about 300bhp and the other has a 92 firebird 3.1 with alot more torque then my car and so on) and id like a clutch with a little more holding power, but mainly one that will last longer then stock. also i do plan on doing bolt-ons this year to increase hp a little and hopefully over the winter get the motor rebuilt so i can safely have turbo and not hope the motor dont blow (sohc with over 150k on it).

so if i didnt have plans on building it up and only drivig it i would do stock.

also i did look at the dxd clutches, and i believe i am gonna try them. thanks for keeping me away from senseless forced lol.

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my buddy Rob was helping me replace the front on my s14 kouki yesterday and I ran to the store in his car (98 kouki with basic mods) to pick up some drinks. All I can say is that his clutch sucks and he dislikes it as well. It is a star spec 2 or something to that effect. It grabs nicely but it is a very strange clutch to drive since it has no real pedal feel and is too soft. I have an automatic, but last time I drove his car it had a stock clutch, which felt reasonably firm and you knew where it was at in reference to slip. it also tends to not want to release fully, which can cause problems. my gf's b18 crx has an act clutch in it, which is very firm and grabs very nicely. I have only good things to say about ACT clutches based on her car and a buddies bpu supra which has one. They are pricey, but you tend to get what you pay for. ACT is proven time and time again and has an excellent reputation. Get a stock clutch or do it right and get a known performer. I wouldn't recommend buying some random off-brand clutch because you're going to get a part that wasn't tested to the extent that ACT/RPS/Clutch Masters test their clutches and might end up being unhappy with your purchase. I'd rather spend an extra 200 and be very happy with my purchase than only spend 200 and be very displeased with my purchase. consider the extra 200 as an investment and the 200 for a bad performing clutch a waste and youll see my reasoning.

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thats very true and i agree with you on the extra 200 being not wasted but worth it. i have been planning on getting an act since i started looking into 240's but like i said right now i have a pretty stock car and i want to get the thing on the road right now. later on when i do put basic bolt ons and such on it i will definetly switch to act for a clutch. i think for now ill just get a stupid stock clutch just to get me on the road and save the extra 100.00 and swap to act later. again thank you everyone for your input

also on the b18 rex is it first or 2nd gen (im also a rex lover)

future plans for a rex: 86-87 rex si with a 86-87 integra d16 dohc and all wheel disc. and then ill go from there, first i need a rex again lol.

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lucky03602 wrote:thats very true and i agree with you on the extra 200 being not wasted but worth it. i have been planning on getting an act since i started looking into 240's but like i said right now i have a pretty stock car and i want to get the thing on the road right now. later on when i do put basic bolt ons and such on it i will definetly switch to act for a clutch. i think for now ill just get a stupid stock clutch just to get me on the road and save the extra 100.00 and swap to act later. again thank you everyone for your input

also on the b18 rex is it first or 2nd gen (im also a rex lover)

future plans for a rex: 86-87 rex si with a 86-87 integra d16 dohc and all wheel disc. and then ill go from there, first i need a rex again lol.
good choice on the clutch, you cant beat OEM for a stock car. While I like the ACT clutch in the rex, we would both rather it be an oem clutch since it doesn't make enough power to need an ACT right now. The car is a 1990 Tahitian Green DX/HX (dont remember which). It has a b18b right now (non-vtec) with ys1 transmission, hasport mounts, ACT clutch, and decent tires. We have it up for sale on autotrader right now since she wants to get an automatic, but if it doesn't sell then I might buy her a vtec head swap, some traction bars and an lsd. It's one of those Tim Tailor things, where it's her car but I modify it and just say it's for her. So if anyone wants a rex, we're down with trading it for an auto 240.

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i had bad experience with ACT... hated it

also, I heard they had problems with the fork in the honda community

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lucky03602 wrote: I would like a heavy duty street clutch (motor is stock except for a big ol k+n filter) mianly because of the longer life.
What do you mean longer life? In my experience aftermarket clutches go for LESS amount of time than a stock clutch would. I dont see why you would want anything more than a stock clutch given that you have no mods to warrant such a drastic change.

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Loveless wrote:i had bad experience with ACT... hated it

also, I heard they had problems with the fork in the honda community
I have had no problems and I don't know anyone personally who has. Most forum rumors are started by someone hearing something from someone else and then spreading it like wildfire to be the truth. For example, atleast 1 person will read your post and not know anything about the subject, but they'll respond to another clutch related post a few months down the road saying that they heard ACT clutches were garbage for Nissans. 90% of what you hear on the internet is bull****, so don't count someones word unless they explain why they didn't like it, and make sure it was their experience and not "a buddy" who had the bad experience. I've come to realize that the majority of the "buddy"s are no name people they don't even know who happened to make apost one time or write something on a blog system about a company experience that they heard from another person. That's why I try to stay away from forums when I'm looking for opinions on products. The best people to speak with are the locals or people who own shops. If I want a clutch recommendation I'm going to call Ken at Enjuku locally since I've purchased from him before and I know that he knows his Nissan stuff, or I'm going to talk with my buddy Rob, because he used to be a mechanic, so I know he knows his stuff. It's all abotu quality control of information, which is exactly why I don't run a forum, I would be deleting stupid responses that were obviously heresay and my forum post count would go nowhere. But hey, I'm starting to ramble on relentlessly, so I'm going to cut it here. also, if you could go into detail and explain what you didn't like about your ACT experience so that anyone who finds this post will atleast know what your issue was. If they are going to be brainwashed by someone they don't know, they should atleast get enough information to go with it.

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well i actually didnt know that aftermarket clutches have less life, i assumed since it was built "beefier" if you undterstand me it would last longer. as far as talking to ppl about products there really isnt no one around here who even has a 240 with more then a kmart coffee can and a wing on it. only one guy and he just did a red top sr swap and is putting all sorts of goodies on it. between me and him were trying stuff to test out for eachother if you understand me again.

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I sold my integra because I don't wnat to bother taking the clutch out, that's how bad I hated it and it's been way too long for me to remember what the exacy sympton is. I can tell you, however, that it was almost impossible to drive the car. I stated that I had bad experience. Now I am saying that go search for "act clutch fork" and "act clutch problems" on hondatech., You will find that act clutch have issues with release fork bending.


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