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AKA the golden rule. "He who has the gold, makes the rules".


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We have a Kirby from the 60's, works awesome. If you're worried about dust from a bag, buy a hepa mask.

Oh, and this thread "sucks". lol

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I'm not worried about dust from the bag. I'm worried about going to use the damn thing and it not working cos the bag is full, and me not having any bags. Like I have a finite amount of use out of it before I have to go out, strain to remember what kind of vacuum it is/what kind of bag to get, and remember to get it in the first place. Then, when i finally do get the bag, changing it out is a pain in the a**.

The solution is to get a vacuum cleaner with no consumables (other than you know... electricity).
Simplicity in operation > complexity in operation (when it comes to vacuum cleaners that is). I guess you could say I want the Toyota Camry/corolla of vacuum cleaners. I want it to work, every time regardless of how poorly I treat it haha.

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It's a matter of personal preference, I believe. Our carpet vacuum uses bags. It does such a good job, I don't mind to take it outside to change the bag to avoid releasing dust into the air. As far as remembering to order bags, we order them by the case online. Amazon FTW! :biggrin:

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:I'm not worried about dust from the bag. I'm worried about going to use the damn thing and it not working cos the bag is full, and me not having any bags. Like I have a finite amount of use out of it before I have to go out, strain to remember what kind of vacuum it is/what kind of bag to get, and remember to get it in the first place. Then, when i finally do get the bag, changing it out is a pain in the a**.

The solution is to get a vacuum cleaner with no consumables (other than you know... electricity).
Simplicity in operation > complexity in operation (when it comes to vacuum cleaners that is). I guess you could say I want the Toyota Camry/corolla of vacuum cleaners. I want it to work, every time regardless of how poorly I treat it haha.
^THIS!
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Hey when the wife brings home the majority of the bacon, you do what you're told ;)
Haha point, taken. I'd happily even make the sandwiches too for not only bacon, but I also require cheese to get out of bed for my woman. Great, now I sound like a d!ck...

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I glanced at the gen chat thread list.
I saw this thread.
I read "cloaking devices."
I started scanning for Klingons.

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I'm sorry to disappoint, but as a consolation prize, I offer you this Delorean:
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While it doesn't have cloaking technology, it DOES have a flux capacitor.

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I havent read all the posts here, but I will put my $.02 in. I work in a vacuum repair shop and can tell you to stay away from bagless machines all together. A good machine with a good cloth bag and a hepa filter is the way to go. We sell and service Miele vacuums and that's what I would recommend. They are a little high end, but search your local Craigslist and pick up one second hand. Have it serviced and you've got a great machine.

Just like our cars, our vacuums benefit from service. We recomend yearly service for any machine.

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Bandit: What do you think of Kirby?

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I just happen to have one up on the bench now. Not bad machines, just a little heavy. The newer self propelled ones are a pain to work on. They are good machines though. Just like rainbows, they are overpriced if bought from a door to door salesperson.

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Any particular reason to stay away from bagless? I'm really not worried about allergens or anything getting back into the air.

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why does my avatar pop up on gheybook concerning this thread?

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Because out of all the thumbnails it gave me the option for choosing, I figured yours was the most appealing to the target womanly demographic, as well as the rest of the population.

People see kermit and just want to click s***.
Besides, how would you know, you're not on the gaybook (or ARE you?!)

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Well the best reason I would stay away from a bag less machine is the fact that when you dump the dirt cup, all that dust goes right back into the air. A good bagged machine with a decent filter will keep almost all of the dirt and dust in the bag. A lot of bags are self sealing or have a flap on them now. Bagless machines seem to require more upkeep too. Almost all the ones we servIce have never had their pre-filters washed or have had them removed when they got clogged.

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Thats because most people dont know to clean filters. I know some people that dont change oil regularly, and even this one guy that had no idea that you had to ( :wtf2: ??) Like I said, all you have to do is empty it outside instead of in the kitchen and your good. I feel like they are cleaner and more efficient, but its your call

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Ok, I didn't know if there was something inherently different about the design, like the motors don't last as long because the bagless ones don't filter it enough for the motor or something. If its something as simple as people not cleaning the filter or the dust going everywhere when you empty it, I can live with that.

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:Because out of all the thumbnails it gave me the option for choosing, I figured yours was the most appealing to the target womanly demographic, as well as the rest of the population.

People see kermit and just want to click s***.
Besides, how would you know, you're not on the gaybook (or ARE you?!)
women love me? sweet.

also, i have my ways of finding stuff out.

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Some of the cheaper machine will let crap past the filters. That of course causes he bearings and brushes to wear quicker. We had a machine come in a few days ago that somehow a hearing aid battery got through, totally blew the fan apart.

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Bandit240 wrote:Some of the cheaper machine will let crap past the filters. That of course causes he bearings and brushes to wear quicker. We had a machine come in a few days ago that somehow a hearing aid battery got through, totally blew the fan apart.
My Hoover bagged vacuum (older version of the the top of the line in Consumer Reports right now) has one bag and two post-filters. The bag is a Hoover Allergen Y bag that pretty much gets everything and is thrown away when full - haven't had one break on us since we bought the machine five or six years (or so) ago.

There is another coarse washable filter that prevents stuff like the hearing aid battery from making its way to the motor - this just gets washed every three to six months and is good to go! Have not had to replace it since we bought the vacuum.

And, finally, there is a HEPA filter where the air comes back out into the room from the motor - it catches everything tiny enough to be a breathing issue. It gets replaced every year or two whenever the accumulation of ultra-fine dust that gets past the Allergen Y paper bag (rare!) gets it looking a bit dirtier than usual.

This Hoover works well - I would not consider a bagless design because this one works so well from an overall vacuum perspective! I never have to go over the same area more than one or two times to pick up anything - three times would be most unusual!

The only problem I have with it is that the belt of the beater brush can break too easily if the high suction is used on dense carpet rugs (we have a number of Pakistani carpets) - not an issue with wall-to-wall carpeting material.

On the denser carpets, the suction is so strong that it lifts the carpet against the beater brush and prevents it from spinning. Solution is simple - break the seal by tilting the vacuum a bit or turn the beater brush off. So, in the same time frame of five to six years ownership, I have gone through about one belt every nine to fifteen months - not too bad overall.

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