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:frown:

We barely made it a week after the completely unrelated tragedy in Arizona and some buffoon from TN is spewing nonsense and invoking Nazis and the KKK.

Thank God that my favorite gay lefty newsman was on the scene (as much as want to dislike AC, I just can't) to pwn the hell out of him:

http://wireupdate.com/wires/14421/cnn%E ... ty-to-kkk/


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im sorry, but i agree with the congressman. repeating lies is exactly what the nazis did, and is the core of what the republicans call a platform. but hey, what do i know.

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WOW T....third thread in 3 minutes and each one you've managed to launch an outright attack against the GOP....I see your feeling better

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What a hypocrite. Writes an article about how bad reckless speech is and then goes on a tirade comparing the tea party to the KKK and the Nazi's. Pathetic. Very poor defense. Good job AC.

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heliochrome85 wrote:im sorry, but i agree with the congressman. repeating lies is exactly what the nazis did, and is the core of what the republicans call a platform. but hey, what do i know.
You missed the point. He had just wrote an article about using reckless speech - comparing anything or anyone to the KKK and Nazi's is reckless. Period. Hypocrisy? Absolutely.

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heliochrome85 wrote:im sorry, but i agree with the congressman. repeating lies is exactly what the nazis did, and is the core of what the republicans call a platform. but hey, what do i know.
Tariq, if you really believe the two are equal, then something is wrong here. You are way off the mark. :tisk:

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OMG! I saw this clown on Anderson Cooper's show last night and he outright refused to back off or apologize. Another case of a man dead set on making a complete fool of himself, God knows why.

I guess it must be a matter of some principle that totally escapes me. Or maybe his ego is just too small. He even elaborated and brought up more examples to "prove" his "point, whatever he thinks it was.

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I went in to talk to my coworker today - the one I usually go on and on with on political matters, much to the entertainment of everybody around us (he's very passionate, but short on facts and logic, I'm very factual and logical, but I'm not terribly engaging - it's like a sitcom). I didn't get to, because he was off in a meeting, but my other coworker asked me what I was going to say.

And I was going to tell them that today is the day that I absolutely hate the Republican party. I've never said anything like that before, and I have a great respect for many of the core values, but today I hate them. Maybe not tomorrow, but today I do. And the reason I hate them is twofold:

1. There are a great many valid and logical criticisms of the healthcare bill. There is much to be said on the merits of the bill. There are competing interests. It's absolutely vital that we talk about them. But what too many Republicans did in the vote was simply to make s*** up. The bill does not create anything like Canada or the United Kingdom. It is not "socialism," unless the Republicans of 1994 were socialists. There is nothing involved in the bill that comes close to a "government takeover." I completely agreed with Representative Weiner (D-NY) who remarked (basically), "For those of you watching at home, downing a shot of tequila whenever a Republican lies, please assign a designated driver. It's going to be a long night." For a decent, honest debate, check out Intelligence Squared: http://intelligencesquaredus.org/index. ... /#dm-col-a

2. Just yesterday I read about NJ's Governor Christie ranting on about teacher tenure. If he's not outright lying, he's preying on the ignorance of others and is just as guilty. Tenure is a job for life, right? Only in college, which is what Christie neglects to mention. In 47 of 50 States (I believe) a teacher can be fired at any time without any recourse for the first three years of their employment. After three years, they get tenure, which for K-12 teachers simply means that they have access to an appeals process when they're fired. Maybe the process needs to be changed, but that's not what he's campaigning on - he wants to ditch the whole thing.

...So maybe "Goebbels" is a bit melodramatic and it's a bit inflammatory, and he's wrong for going too far. But it's annoying as f***, and I don't blame him for being upset.

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I hate both parties.

Moreso, I hate people who are so bereft of original thought and intellectual self-reliance that they invoke Hitler / Nazis / KKK / [insert universally-despised bad guy here] whenever they don't like what someone else is doing.

He's a perfect example of our flawed mental health care system.

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heliochrome85 wrote:hey, what do i know.
You know broad generalizations like a champ. ;)

And quit apologizing. Makes you sound like a liberal. :biggrin:


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