its a vicious circle, just like the so called "recession" were in

Matt, can you please share the source of your data?
Modified by Encryptshun at 12:03 PM 4/17/2008

Encryptshun wrote:Jeff, can you please share the source of your data?

I did some research into these numbers and i found a large flaw. The data you have is faulty because those graduation rates were based on: This student enrolled in this school as a 9th grader and did not graduate from this school. Now, heres where the problem comes in. Say the student were to switch to a private school, another local school, or the child moved...According to this research that student did not graduate. Though its not possible that all of the students, shown as not graduating, moved or transfered but there is no way of telling how much of the percentage did move or transfer.

my high school using the same considerations, people moving and such, has a consistent graduation rate of around 95%, so its probably still about as bad as it seems

IT all depends on where you live. Detroit is in michigan and michigan has the highest rate of people leaving the state and lowest in-coming. Oh plus, once in high school parents in detroit public schools find it necessary to put their children in better schools to help get their kids into college because detroit public schools are the easiest to pass.

Bump for still waiting for the source of the data.

Encryptshun wrote:Jeff, can you please share the source of your data?

Do you mean Matt aka 'audtatious?' Jeffersonville is where he lives.

Hey Matt, can you cite your source?

Cold_Zero wrote:
Do you mean Matt aka 'audtatious?' Jeffersonville is where he lives.

Hey Matt, can you cite your source?

Jeebus christ. I fail at life.

Yes.

Matt, I apologize. Thread-editing in progress.

Edit* This is why I try never to break my own rule of using screen name rather than real name unless I have at least swapped e-mail with the person I'm talking to. I am shamed.

Dont be. Everyone needs to give Matt hell... Those are Greg's orders!

Cold_Zero wrote:
Do you mean Matt aka 'audtatious?' Jeffersonville is where he lives.

Hey Matt, can you cite your source?

Sorry, I missed the edits...

I can't find the actual link I pulled that list off but you can use this MSNBC link as it has a table in the middle that goes from high to low:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23889321/

Mesa, Ariz. Mesa Unified District 77.1 San Jose, Calif. San Jose Unified 77.0 Nashville, Tenn. Nashville-Davidson Co. School Dist. 77.0 Colorado Springs, Colo. Colorado Springs School District 76.0 San Francisco San Francisco Unified 73.1 Tucson, Ariz. Tucson Unified District 71.7 Seattle Seattle School District 67.6 Virginia Beach, Va. Virginia Beach City Public Schools 67.4 Sacramento, Calif. Sacramento City Unified 66.7 Honolulu Hawaii Department of Education 64.1 Louisville, Ky. Jefferson County School District 63.7 Long Beach, Calif. Long Beach Unified 63.5 Arlington, Texas Arlington ISD* 62.7 Memphis, Tenn. Memphis City School District 61.7 San Diego San Diego Unified 61.6 Albuquerque, N.M. Albuquerque Public Schools 60.8 El Paso, Texas El Paso ISD* 60.5 Charlotte, N.C. Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools 59.8 Wichita, Kan. Wichita Public Schools 59.6 Phoenix Phoenix Union High School District 58.3 Austin, Texas Austin ISD* 58.2 Washington District of Columbia Public Schools 58.2 Fresno, Calif. Fresno Unified 57.4 Boston Boston Public Schools 57.0 Fort Worth, Texas Fort Worth ISD* 55.5 Omaha, Neb. Omaha Public Schools 55.1 Houston Houston ISD* 54.6 Portland, Ore. Portland School District 53.6 Las Vegas Clark County School District 53.1 San Antonio San Antonio ISD* 51.9 Chicago City of Chicago School District 51.5 Tulsa, Okla. Tulsa Public Schools 50.6 Jacksonville, Fla. Duval County School District 50.2 Philadelphia Philadelphia City School District 49.6 Miami Miami-Dade County School District 49.0 Oklahoma City Oklahoma City Public Schools 47.5 Denver Denver County School District 46.3 Milwaukee Milwaukee Public Schools 46.1 Atlanta Atlanta City School District 46.0 Kansas City, Mo. Kansas City School District 45.7 Oakland, Calif. Oakland Unified 45.6 Los Angeles Los Angeles Unified 45.3 New York New York City Public Schools 45.2 Dallas Dallas ISD* 44.4 Minneapolis, Minn. Minneapolis Public Schools 43.7 Columbus, Ohio Columbus Public Schools 40.9 Baltimore Baltimore City Public School System 34.6 Cleveland Cleveland Municipal City Sch. Dist. 34.1 Indianapolis Indianapolis Public Schools 30.5 Detroit Detroit City School District 24.9

MSNBC wrote:To calculate graduation rates, the report estimated the likelihood that a 9th grader would complete high school on time with a regular diploma. Researchers used school enrollment and diploma data, but did not use data on dropouts as part of its calculation.

Am I the only one who thinks that doesn't seem very scientific.

Again,"Indianapolis Indianapolis Public Schools 30.5"

Indianapolis has a few Metropolitan School Districts within its borders. Lawrence, Pike, Washington, Wayne, Perry, Franklin and Warren which are NOT a part of Indianapolis Public Schools. These other districts should go into factoring the graduation rates of Indianapolis as a whole.

when you guys are discussing what i said about my school let me give you some facts about my school. - 30% white, 40% Mexican, 30% black thats about how its broken down. - our school system has been reformed due to the failing in our schools. In our school system, if you fail a test or if you fail a class.... you have 2 weeks to make up that test or class and when you do this recovery you can score an 80% at most which is a b- , oh and you can be absent as many times as you want, as long as your still excused. - Our schools top of the social ladder consists of very few intelligent people, the majority are a waste of a body.

pinkfishtacoyum wrote: oh and you can be absent as many times as you want, as long as your still excused.

Wow

In the school my kids went through (and my step daughter is currently in), if you miss too many days of school they report you to Family Child Services.

audtatious wrote:
Wow

In the school my kids went through (and my step daughter is currently in), if you miss too many days of school they report you to Family Child Services.

When I was in school, they had Saturday school. Nothing is worse than going to school on a Saturday.

The attendance policy is new to us, but before the change it was 10 days of being absent in a marking period. if you were absent more than 10 times then you failed the class.