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One word: OWNED!

Did you see that dude? The other car got owned, but he was straight up pwned like a Civic owner against a Pwncaeks member...

edit: Okay, that was bad... sorry... but yeah, wrong place at the wrong time for the dude, and that SUV took a NICE t-bone... ouch...

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that was really sad... all you see is the guy getting hit and his backpack or whatever flying off...

Doesn't look like it but I hope the guy made it...

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Jeeezus. Maybe he'll think twice about running a red? It was a red for him wasnt it?

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Actually I think the full-on blow would have knocked him to the ground. Probably several broken bones and enough scrapes to last a lifetime, but I think he mighta been saved cause he got hit pretty square, rather than just his head or something.

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It appeared the PT had the redlight. The car in the left turn lane was stopped and the cars going the opposite direction were stopping.

And I don't necessarily think he was hit very square. He ended up a good 20-30 feet from the crosswalk.

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thats actaually a few miles from my house, the guy did indeed live the dent in the SUV from teh cruiser impact actually acted as a cradle for the guy, or so it seems. it rolled over him but he wasnt crushed , he made it out alive. crazy drivers here,

the other night on my way home from work at 4am i was about hit by a drunk driver reported her to the police after following them for a few miles, then turn aroudn head home and bout a mile from the house i had a full size dually truck swerving all over decide to cut across the road to make a left turn about 20feet in front of me, i locked up the brakes lost control and missed hitting it head on by mere inches, if i had been in my 240 beater that night i would have died. the brakes wouldnt have stopped or locked up allowing me to slide away in time

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Damn thats some crazy ****!

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Be careful out there kids, ya never know when a car might come flying at you...literally

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That guy just wasn't going to have a good day that day I figured. Even if that PT wasn't going to run the red light, if he did run the red, then surely that other car was goint to nail him. Cause if the light was red for the PT then that dude wasn't supposed to be walking all nice and casual in the intersection. He was jaywalking and on that day the odds were against him.

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Not necessarily. He was near the side walk and Im sure that other driver saw him.

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yikes.

further proof those cars suck.

he must've been a bad person to warrant getting hit by not one but two PT's in an accident (ok, he just got hit by one, but good god, they were both the same color even...like it's staged...)

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I think thother vehicle was a Honda CRV. I wish it was an Element though.

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Yeah, I thought about the pedestrian walking in the crosswalk last night while I was in bed. So I am not entirely sure who had the red now. Though it seems odd that oncoming traffic to the PT were slowing down to stop at the intersection. Unless it was in transition.

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:owned

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jdmfreak03 wrote:I think thother vehicle was a Honda CRV. I wish it was an Element though.


I think it was a Toyota Rav4... but close enough :D (yes, I had to be a ****, bad mood, excusé moi)...

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C-Kwik wrote:Yeah, I thought about the pedestrian walking in the crosswalk last night while I was in bed. So I am not entirely sure who had the red now. Though it seems odd that oncoming traffic to the PT were slowing down to stop at the intersection. Unless it was in transition.
the PT cruiser had a green light, the other directing changed to red because a car was going to make a left turn, the SUV however ran a red, and if you look very closely if the pt cruiser didn’t hit the SUV, the SUV would have hit the pedestrian head on

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Yea, now that I look at it again, Ill have to agree with you on this one.

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tell you guys what ill go down to that intersection and get the light patterns for yah and try to explain which light was red..

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any on want a peice of the wreckage , im sure there is some left.

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Given slw240sx's comment, my guess is the crossing traffic vehicle was trying to "anticipate" the green light, that they weren't gonna get until after the green arrow for the car waiting to turn left.

Nonetheless, OUCH :eek:

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I was at work during my last post so I didn't watch it again there. After staring at it a couple of minutes, I think there was definitely a period of transition in there. slw240sx will probably have to be our eyes and ears to fill in some of the details. Particularly about the car waiting to turn left. I can't see if there is a separate left turn signal there or not. The oncoming cars appear to be slowing down fairly early on. It's hard to say when the red car starts slowing down with any real certainty. As it passes the 1st tree on it's right just after the 1 second mark of the video is crossed, the red car's front end may have started dipping indicating it may have hit it's brakes at that point. But it's rather unclear seeing as how it is so small. I'm also speculating that if the car waiting to make a left has a separate left turn light, he may have had to wait until after the cross traffic gets the right of way.

This would indicate that there was at least 5 seconds between the time the red car started braking and the time of the impact(6 second mark). It is possible there was more time. I'd expect the yellow light to be on for anywhere between 3-5 seconds. But the light may have been yellow slightly longer as reaction time for hitting the brakes(sight to braking) is about 0.75 seconds. So potentially at the least, the light was yellow almost 4-6 seconds before the impact. Another thing to throw in is that fom when one light turns red until the next light turns green, there is usually about a 1 second delay.

So it's a little difficult to say the SUV had a green yet. And I'd say the PT definitely did not have a green light anymore. It had to be either red or yellow.

The SUV appears to have been in the left lane. Chances are both of them saw each other after it was too late, but tried to make an attempt to miss each other. You can see the PT hit it's brakes and move slightly left before the impact. I'd expect the SUV probably hit the brakes ans swerved right. The SUV hits the pedestrian while is in the right lane. The SUV appears to go through the right lane pretty square but ultimately ends up closer to the curb when it comes to rest. This indicates the SUV was moving at an angle to the right after the impact.

The only explanation about the pedestrian is that he perhaps enetered the intersection late so he was still walking through as the light turned red.

The SUV is carrying quite a bit of speed for someone who just got a green light. So he was definitely not stopped at the intersection. The question in my mind is did he time the light, or perhaps was speeding and when the light turned green, got on the gas, or at worst, had no intention of stopping at any light.

There appears to be plenty of witnesses(I really do hope they stopped to give their info), so they can probably fill in a lot of details. But I do see potential for this being a comparative liability case where each party shares some responsibility. But there are definitely a lot of blanks to be filled in. I would love to handle the liability portion of a claim like this.

Some side notes. This is a really good example for all three parties. First, pay attention and if you have a yellow, and you can stop, then stop. Second, if you're light turns green as you approach an intersection, don't immediately speed up. Look both ways as you enter the intersection. Especially if there is a car stopped at the intersection in the lane next to you. Lastly, if you are a pedestrian, use the crosswalk button and only go if you see the walk sign. Also be aware as a pedestrian when you are a pedestrian. Even if you are not at fault for an impact as a pedestrian, generally the car will win when you look at the big picture. The transition period of light phases in an intersection is one of the most dangerous times to be in an intersection.

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C-Kwik, what do you do for a living?

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I'm an insurance adjuster.

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c, ill be back to read your post more, but on the subject of your job, im really looking at getting into that line of work as a insurance adjuster or fraud dept, i would really like to talk to you about that line of work and how i should get my foot in the doori really want to do this for a living ,

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