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s13rb25det
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hey, I am looking at turbos on the internet and on ebay, I want a decent priced turbo so I am looking at brand X ones. I am staying completely away from the ssauto,stone mountain,and xspower,turbos because I have heard they a crap. my question is are any of the other no name turbos just as bad? and were on the internet can you find a good turbo at for a decent price? below $400 would be good! also all I have heard about ssautochrome is from people who never owned a ssac turbo just have heard about them splitting in half!! also I have been told by numerous engine builders and modders that the turbo brand doent matter, Corky Bell even mentions that in his book, Max Boost. I myself find this hard to believe but I would never question Corky!! could someone that knows more about turbos and mostly turbo brands please help my out!! I dont want to spend $800+ on a garret or turbonetics, but I dont want a cheap broke @ss turbo either! there has to be some middle ground. thank you


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lilskyline240
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with turbos there are 2 extremes....you either get an amazing turbo that will run good forever....or a piece of crap that will split apart.....take your pick....in the long run....you get what you pay for....if you want to spend little, youll get little for the money....

put it this way...if you get a cheap turbo for 400, then it breaks in 4 months....you have to go and spend 400 more for another, and who knows how long that will last.....when in the first place you could have spent 800 for a brand new garrett turbo that will be good for a LONG time

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yeah thats what I think also, mabye I will just save my money and get a garret have any of you heard of master power turbos? they are made in brazil and have pretty good prices

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Look on http://www.ka-t.orgGet a used one, and if needed do a rebuild. I got my Garrett T3 for around 200 that needs a rebuild. After a rebuild, it will come out to say $400, there ya go. A good turbo for good price.

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I was thinking about rebuilding a garret also, how difficult is it to rebuild a non ball bearing turbo? I have rebuild about a half dozen engines but never a turbo!! do the compessor blades need to be balanced? does it need to be ported/bored out? etc,etc

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I have a gt28 from Autodynasty( the same turbo SSAC and eveyone else gets)

The turbo lasted for more 2 months(2000 miles) but they offer a one year warranty.

I just recently got the new turbo in from them. The turbo make me nervous but i only paid $239 bucks(300 total)

Basically if your willing to be a guine pig buy from Autodynasty(cause of the 1 year warranty-there on Ebay). Other than that-buy a used turbo

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what went wrong with the turbo? was it the internals or did the housing crack? and did they give you a free replacement? I think I am going with a rebuilt t3/t04 garret turbo I found it for $300 shipped and its got a 1 year warranty. it seems a little small though its a .42 a/r comp, and .48 turbine

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something sounds fishy about that turbo you found on Ebay. Ive never heard of a 0.42A/R T04E compressor housing. Sounds like its a T3 comp and turbine...

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honestly you wanna stay away from anyone that sells ZHEN turbo's they are rediculously low priced (I got quoted 300 fur 2 new RB26DETT + 1 s15 SR20DET turbo + 45 shipping from china to usa) but their turbos are soo ****ing garbage that it would cost more to remanufacture those turbo's to be good then to buy used ones from the junkyard and rebuild them. mid to high ranged priced turbos, just like bodykits are worth every penny.

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yeah, my mistake it is a t3 and not a t40e housing. I think this is to small of a a/r ratio though for me! isnt that close to a t25 or t28 a/r ratio? I want turbo a little bigger than that garret one, what turbos are you guys running on your cars? and what are the specs? I am looking for a turbo that will start making boost at around 1800rpms and make max boost at around 3800-4000 rpms. sorry for the stupid questions, turbos are pretty new to me!!

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s13rb25det wrote:what went wrong with the turbo? was it the internals or did the housing crack? and did they give you a free replacement? I think I am going with a rebuilt t3/t04 garret turbo I found it for $300 shipped and its got a 1 year warranty. it seems a little small though its a .42 a/r comp, and .48 turbine
The turbos became unbalanced. The freaking thing is heavy, so i dont see it coming apart. They sent me a free replacement(after I paid for shipping)

THe new one I have pulls nicely. But who knows how long it will last

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whats ur power goals and if ur gonna go with a str8 t3, get a t3 60 trim with a .63 a/r on the exhaust side. the standard turbo for our KA's are the t3/t4 50 trim with a .63 a/r and stage 3 wheel. another turbo to look at is also ams's gt32 as it is also another favorite.

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Save a few extra bucks and get the AMS GT32 for 650 you will be happy in the end

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I am looking at some turbos that have those same specs .50 compressor and .63 turbine that looks like the kind of a/r I want. I am going for about 270-280hp at the wheels and yeah, I know I could make this with a smaller turbo like a t25 or t28 but that is what I had on my rb25det and I did like them at all!!

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does the ams gt32 bolt up to the jgs downpipe and bolt to the exhaust mani? just wondering because this is the kit I am going with

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You can buy awesome turbos for a great price at Arizona Turbo and Tractor Supply. Talk to Joel Britt-602 253 9955I have one on my ka-tMy friend has one on his miata for 60k miles (17psi)I paid 300 a year ago.

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do you have a web address?

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s13rb25det wrote:does the ams gt32 bolt up to the jgs downpipe and bolt to the exhaust mani? just wondering because this is the kit I am going with
It definitely is a T3 inlet flange so it will bolt to the manifold. And I'm pretty sure the DP will work. JGS offers 5 bolt or 4 bolt flanged downpipes. Ask Lance at JGS for clarification...

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whats the specs on ur turbo charles? 300 is a great price if its a garrett t3/t4.............

s13rb25det
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yeah I need a web address to this arizona turbo place!!

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I do not know of a e-mail address for az turbo, its not a huge shop. my turbo is a garret t3/t4 .63ar exh .60arcompressor with a 47 trimI posted because az turbo has awesome customer service and more importantly great turbos.

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Chezedik
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I am tired of people throwing their hats into the ring, so I will! Unless you have used one of these turbos, your opinion is worthless to the lad who requires it. Jack another thread if you want to speculate as to what is good and what is not, unless you have ACTUALLY used one. I have a friend using an SSAC turbo and had NOTHING but good luck. The only failure it had was when an oil seal failed (due to the installer not using a restrictor), fixed it and it runs fantastic with no issues.

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'Chezedik' are you posting because of my post? If so, I have clearly stated that I have an az turbo on my ka-t. I do not post often but az tractor and turbo is the place for affordable turbos. I know its hard to trust people posting on the web, but I assure you my friends and I are really into cars. These turbos are great and everyone loves a deal. I'm just trying to help people who are on a budget.

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Chezedik wrote:I am tired of people throwing their hats into the ring, so I will! Unless you have used one of these turbos, your opinion is worthless to the lad who requires it. Jack another thread if you want to speculate as to what is good and what is not, unless you have ACTUALLY used one. I have a friend using an SSAC turbo and had NOTHING but good luck. The only failure it had was when an oil seal failed (due to the installer not using a restrictor), fixed it and it runs fantastic with no issues.
I have never heard about using a restictor on a turbo...i am guessing this is why my turbo puts out a nice white smoke screen when i try and drive it. Did your friend have to have the seal replaced?

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Charles, no it was not your post. In fact, I did not read them. I just know that every time one of these happens, we end up with a bunch of haters, that don't know their elbows from their ***holes. I found it in a later post.Trigger, he did not have the seal replaced, because we were unsure if the shaft size would be the same as Garrett (rumor is that it is not, but it is a rumor). So we bought a new one, I am going to pick it up from him and tear it down soon, see if I can use it.

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Im just going to save my money and get a gt32 or a garrett t3/t04e I dont want to d!ck with the turbo more than once!!

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s13rb25det wrote:Im just going to save my money and get a gt32 or a garrett t3/t04e I dont want to d!ck with the turbo more than once!!
Good choice! "You get what you pay for"

s13rb25det
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yeah, I just wish good turbos were cheaper!!


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