Changed my Front Oxygen Sensors

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buhaw12
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I changed the 2 front oxygen sensors on my 2000 Pathfinder today. Since there does not seem to yet be a lot of information already on the forum about this, I figured I'd post some notes I wish I'd known before.

1. Watch this video. It is done on a 2003 Frontier, but the sensor setup is exactly the same as in the R50s. The video is also well done and very detailed (if any admins are reading, this would be a great thing to add to the stickies).
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDFz2vnS7_Q[/youtube]
2. You'll need an tall offset oxygen sensor socket (exactly like below) to remove the OE sensor. The OE sensors are quite large, and too tall for a normal socket.
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3. The easiest way to get to the drivers side sensor (at least on the VG33E engine) is via the space immediately to the right of the master brake cylinder. If you look down this space (basically the back, drivers-side corner of the engine compartment) you've got direct line-of-sight to the sensor. I bought a really long socket extension, and was able to get at it without removing anything.
4. The exhaust shields may get in the way of fully engaging the socket. I had a hard time removing the passenger-side sensor because of this, and tore it up in the process. Press down hard on the shield and deform it slightly to get the clearance you need.
5. Put some penetrating oil on the old sensors before trying to remove them. This way the sensor is the only thing that comes out (not the reduction plug).
6. Buy Bosch Premium (exact fit) sensors. They're almost identical to the OE parts (OE is made by Bosch), but half the price. Also they include the wire anchors already fastened in the correct spots.

I changed the sensors because I was getting an intermittent check engine light for them being slow (response monitoring). I was also having a loss of power (engine hunting) when accelerating, and I did not notice this anymore when I took it for a test drive (I'll let you know in a week or so if the problem is actually fixed). I chose to do this myself because the dealer quoted me ~800 to do it, which seemed like a bit much.


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Did both of my downstream ones a while back as well. Same problems same solution aha.

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Thanks for the guide!

buhaw12
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Just an update...
Changing the front O2s has fixed my drivability issues. In case anyone else experiences this, I just wanted to clarify my symptoms. Whenever the engine was accelerating (especially under extra load, like going up a hill), there was a cyclic loss of power. The engine would lose power then accelerate, lose power then accelerate, etc, etc in pretty quick succession. The problem was not noticeable when driving as constant speed or idling, and lessened after the car got fully warmed up (10 minutes or more). This never got to the point where the car was not drivable, but it was a major annoyance and made the car drive poorly.
My acceleration under all loads is nice and smooth now, just like it used to be (this had been going on and worsening for years). My only clue that the O2 sensors were at fault was an intermittent, but recurring check engine light for one of the two sensors (P0153 LH response monitoring). If your having similar symptoms and still have the original sensors, don't hesitate to replace 'em!

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I also recently replaced the front O2 sensors in my 02 QX4. I did a bunch of research and discovered the Bosch sensors are considerably cheaper if you buy the universal replacement sensors. The only difference is the more expensive one has the correct connector and proper length wiring. The universal model is the exact same sensor, but it comes with a weatherproof splice connector and you must use your original connector and wires. The price difference was quite a bit and the extra work doing the splice didn't take to long. I'm thinking of doing the rear O2 sensors in the near future and my research indicates the same is true. The rear sensors have 4 wires vs. 3 on the front ones (they bring out a ground for the rears so they do not have to rely on exhaust pipe to manifold joint for a ground). Interestingly, the right and left sensors are identical for both the front and rear. The harness and connectors are the only difference. That is why the universals fits both sides. Here is the link to the Bosch site:
http://www.boschautoparts.com/OxygenSen ... nsors.aspx
The Premium model is the one that fits our engines and their weatherproof splice is called "OE Smartlink". I found the best price on Amazon and bought them there
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There would be no benefit to replacing the rear sensors. They only ensure efficacy of the cats. Unless one or both are throwing codes, leave them alone.

buhaw12
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I did see the universal replacement sensors, but the cost difference did not seem worth it to me. You end up with a splice, which is OK if it's done right, but is still another possible point of failure. The thing that sold me on the exact fit was the proper wire length and pre-installed anchors. Makes it all but an OE sensor.

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Actually, I believe Bosch made the OEM sensors. The universal model's splice kit is a high quality moisture proof connector. Easy to use and saved me about $80 over the made to fit ones and only took 20 minutes. The only tool you need is a wire stripper.
I'm going to do the rear sensors because of an intermittant code coupled with slow response time on the bank 2 side. I don't like driving around with a lit up MIL indicator, it could cause me to ignore a much bigger problem. Actually, my biggest problem now seems to be the burnt-out backlite in the Nav/Climate touchscreen, but I'm working on it. :dblthumb:

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attofarad
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AceEngineer wrote:I also recently replaced the front O2 sensors in my 02 QX4.
AceEngineer

Can you (or someone else) give a few DIY details for the 3.5 engine? The rear sensors were not difficult, but I do not see how to get at the front sensors on the 2001 QX4/Pathfinder. What has to be removed?

Gary

cgdrennan
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I need to replace my bank 1 (passenger side) upstream o2 sensor on my 2001 3.5l pathfinder. Anyone have any advice for getting to it? What tools were needed? I am getting a P1148 code and under load uphill I get a P0303 misfire code. Im pretty sure the o2 sensor is causing both.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I want to change this sensor out ASAP!

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cgdrennan wrote:I need to replace my bank 1 (passenger side) upstream o2 sensor on my 2001 3.5l pathfinder. Anyone have any advice for getting to it? What tools were needed? I am getting a P1148 code and under load uphill I get a P0303 misfire code. Im pretty sure the o2 sensor is causing both.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I want to change this sensor out ASAP!
Oxygen sensor socket, various length extensions, one or two universal joints and a ratchet wrench. A breaker bar might be handy for taking the old one out.

I just did this 3 weeks ago (2001 qx4), but am already foggy on the details. On the passenger side, I don't think that I had to remove anything to get it out of the way. Pretty quick job. The driver side (also done the same day, along with plugs all around) requires stuff to be removed and it still difficult to access. On the driver side, I used the offset style of O2 socket, but the standard type (deep socket with a slot in the side) on the passenger side.

If the sensor doesn't fix it, looks like there may be another open/short somewhere.

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I just did this 3 weeks ago (2001 qx4), but am already foggy on the details. On the passenger side, I don't think that I had to remove anything to get it out of the way. Pretty quick job. The driver side (also done the same day, along with plugs all around) requires stuff to be removed and it still difficult to access. On the driver side, I used the offset style of O2 socket, but the standard type (deep socket with a slot in the side) on the passenger side.

If the sensor doesn't fix it, looks like there may be another open/short somewhere.
Thank you for the quick reply! I'll be ordering parts from amazon so I was mostly concerned about whether to get the offset tool or go for the straight slotted socket. I just called my local auto parts store and they rent a set that includes both so I'll give that a try, I just paid a shop $130 to diagnose my current codes (P1148, P0303, and P0450). I already knew the codes, but wanted them to pinpoint the exact parts since I don't have the tools or expertise to diagnose these codes according to the procedures in the FSM. Really hoping the o2 sensor takes care of my P1148 and P0303. I'll be installing a new evap canister solenoid to fix the P0450.


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