Cattman 3.5 headers/Ypipe/exhaust interest thread

[maxentropy]

I just got off the phone with Brian Catts who owns Cattman Performance and discussed their entry into the Altima Coupe aftermarket.

They do very nice work;

Their website is being updated for now they are located at http://www.cattman.com

When speaking with Brian I mentioned the need for 3.5 headers. He seemed very interested in performing the R&D if we showed the interest. Of course, he hasn't worked with our vehicle yet so he hasn't seen what lack of space we have under our hoods

Regardless, post here in this thread or email Brian directly ([email protected]) to show any/all interest in either 3.5 headers, ypipe, exhaust, or other parts.

[maxentropy]

Interested in 3.5 headers and Y Pipe!

[rjdmmfl1]

Interested in 3.5 headers and Y Pipe!

remember, the issue with the 3.5 headers will be the price of the install, not of the headers themselves that install price is something that most 3.5 folks will NOT want to delve into... but I do hope they can get these made... remember, if you really want these, there's a shop here in San Diego that can do them

[blackteam02]

interested in HEADERS & Y-PIPE!as long as the headers aren't $1,000 thats just insane.could he match the racingline price on that y-pipe?

[Ricko]

No, headers should not be 1000, just 1000 to install

[Hussain]

No, headers should not be 1000, just 1000 to install

stillen was saying $600 is a safe estimate and they wanted to sell their headers for $600 so $1,200 installed.... but there wasnt enough interest at the time.

currently i'm not working but when i do start working again ill definitely get these IF they dont throw any check engine lights AND if they are CARB legal... usually i dont care if its street legal or not because when you get busted you can just put it back to stock and then put the performance parts back on later BUT if these cost close $600 to install, once they go on ill never take them off lol so i need something that is legal.

[jungleboogie]

if not exclusive to coupes, then yes, headers please

and a definite no go for excessive installation costs (yes, i'm made of money but it's in nickels and dimes)

[Ricko]

is the 600 for the 3.5 or 2.5? I am speaking about the 3.5 installation.

[maxentropy]

Folks, keep in mind these wouldn't be prototyped until december or early next year and pricing is TBD once prototyping is complete.

For price comparison, expect to spend a few more bucks on a Cattman Y-Pipe than let's say a Racingline Y-Pipe.

[Jose3.5]

I wouldn't mind some new parts

[marvin5087]

if catman doesnt make some ima have altered atmosphere make me some ...i need headers ...

[blackteam02]

For price comparison, expect to spend a few more bucks on a Cattman Y-Pipe than let's say a Racingline Y-Pipe.

Y the Hell would the Cattman y-pipe be more?!?! explain please...

[maxentropy]

Y the Hell would the Cattman y-pipe be more?!?! explain please...

According to Joe from Racingline it's most likely due to limited runs of each product. See post below...
Modified by maxentropy at 10:26 PM 10/5/2009

[Racingline]

Racingline Parts are pretty much all made here in Canada Except for the 02-06 Altima Strut Bars ( which comes from Taiwan, not china).

The endlinks have the odd component that is from overseas but, most is still made in the USA, Canada or Japan.The Y pipe itself ships with the "Made in Canada" Mill stampings still on the material and is made 100% in Toronto, Ontario, CANADA. Please get your facts straight before making erroneous claims.

Cattman charges more for similar products because (a)he relies on his name and that he was one of the first people to support the Maxima community back in the day. Back then nobody made anything for the Maxima so it was a supply and demand type pricing structure. If you want the part, you'll pay the price...Although I will admit his parts are well made. (b)Most of his "production runs" are quite small which raises cost per part. Our runs are never less than 50-60 units on each y-pipe which saves us money on the "per part" amortization. We in turn forward this saving on to you. The very first run we did 100 units

We could have very easily done this type of pricing on the Ypipe we just released for the 2007+ Altima and priced it $350+ but we didn't. My goal in starting Racingline from the very begining was to give value to everything I built and sold, not over engineering things or charging outrageous prices just because there was nobody around to challenge the price on the parts we made.

[soxypoo]

ya maxentroy u shouldn't say stuffs like that if u don't know for sure...i am gonna to order the Y-pipe from racingline this thursday and hopefully it will be at my door step by next tuesday if i have the y-pipe will it fit the nismo or borla cat-back exhaust system ????

[maxentropy]

Who knows better than you. I'm just going off what I've heard.

Most likely the limited run is where the prices differ. I've edited my post to state so.

[Racingline]

It will fit EVERY cat-back sytem that is made to install to the factory ypipe ( which is all of them, Magnflow, greddy, Stillen, Borla...they all fit)

[maxentropy]

ya maxentroy u shouldn't say stuffs like that if u don't know for sure...i am gonna to order the Y-pipe from racingline this thursday and hopefully it will be at my door step by next tuesday if i have the y-pipe will it fit the nismo or borla cat-back exhaust system ????

Like I stated, no-one really knows except for Joe, so we'll go by his word.

Let's keep this thread on topic please -- there are plenty of Racingline YPipe threads already. Thanks!

[soxypoo]

YAY just have to wait till thursday when people owe me money and hurry the f-up and pay me

[maxentropy]

I don't know about others, but I've got a hankering for some 3.5 headers...

[Racingline]

Who knows better than you. I'm just going off what I've heard.

Most likely the limited run is where the prices differ. I've edited my post to state so.

Then only part that comes out of china is the Chromoly end pieces on the Rear endlinks, but they are built to spec for an American company and load tested and QC'd in the USA. all other parts are Canada or USA made, including the AB and Stainless series rodends.

re: Cattman

If you follow Cattmans postings on "the maxima site" (not allowed to actually reference the name on Nico) the pipes are frequently back ordered and done up in what seem like small runs. ( although I can't speak for his actual numbers obviously)

Almost no new product is made without X # of people making a deposit, then waiting while the part is developed (generally speaking). Brian is an educator by trade and a consultant now I believe with CP as his moonlighting occupation, thus the separate # to place an order (fulfillment company) vs the ph # to call for chit chat.

All that aside I mean him no disrespect in any way, the parts he commissions are excellent quality and well made, and he is very knowledgeable. He would be an asset to the AC community even if it would mean some competition to us.

But as for pricing... he will not price match, I can pretty much promise that

[Racingline]

I don't know about others, but I've got a hankering for some 3.5 headers...

His current 3.5 headers are very likely to fit with only mild modification to the jigs he has ( flanges are different from the previous generation), so it is very possible he could release something at some point before next summer.

[Hussain]

i had some spare time today and looked up some of cattmans stuff (i heard of them before) and was looking at the maxima forums (non-Nico site) and he was talking about headers and said something about the headers deleting some cats in the headers so you would throw a check engine light UNLESS you KEPT the cat in the Y-pipe and moved the sensors back.... not sure exactly about the details so i dont want anyone to quote me but it was something like that..... so IF i interpreted it correctly, performance Y-pipes will not work with the headers UNLESS you want a check engine light. again, i'm not 100% sure about the details and he was talking about maximas and 05-06 3.5 altimas... so someone might want to ask about that....