Catch Can

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xxtrizz
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I guess i coudla posted this in any technical forum but here is the question.

Sine the Charcoal can for the early model s13 vehicles was located behind the driver light and the charcoal canister is jsut used to circulate built up fumes from the fuel tank into the intake stream. To keep Hydrocarbons down. Could you just remove the charcoal can and reroute the fume vent line to like a catch can where the similar blow by gases that contain Hydrocarbons go to?

Then reroute the catch can to the intake plenum where the pcv goes to after recirculation?

SO like you would have both the PCV and the vent line hooked up to the catch can then recirculated back into the intake where the PCV goes to in the first place.

The only thing im concerned about is the pressure from the gasses in the tank would be to great for the catch can? would it affect a T hook up with the PCV line? Or does the PCV only react from internal pressure of the crankcase and outside pressure doesnt do anything to the system at all?


xxtrizz
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40 som odd peeps and no chirps? Whats the deal yo? :P

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chandler
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its more of a sealed system, if you reroute it to your intake tract, you will run rich and it wont run right because it wont be metered fuel in the system, and you wont pass tech for inspection

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I guess the real question is... why do you want to remove the charcoal canister?

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why not? its in the way and its that many more lines to run

xxtrizz
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Its not really metered when its going through the charcoal canister either. Its basically vaccuum regulated but even then I cant say much for how accurate that is. The charcoal canister is made to rerout to the intake tract anyways after the MAF so I doubt it would have much of an affect any other replies are welcome btw. OH and the Charcoal canister has like 2 foot long vaccum hoses in my bay across the damn fan shroud which is annoying as all holy hell.

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I was just curious. Some people move things just to move things. You have a goal in mind so it makes more sense to me. Plus I hate those vacuum lines also.

xxtrizz
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Yeah, I didnt mean for it to sound liek i was raggin on ya but we all know that damn charcoal can is a pain in the ugly *** to look at.

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well, the reason I was gonna ditch mine was because its hard enough to troubleshoot a turbo'd car, and the fewer vaccuum lines the easier it is to make sure everything is OK.I'd have to relocate it because of my intercooler placement, and instead I'm just going to remove it, to solve both problems.

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So whats your take on the catch can idea there andrave the fumes are the same form the pcv that they are from the fuel tank so what would you say?

If anything I was thinking about maybe researching into newer charcoal canisters smaller ones to rerout both to.

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you can remove it with no ill effects aside for a little gas smell.


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