Cars Most Likely to Get a Ticket

[Bubba1]

Forbes just published their list of cars (less than 10 yrs old) that are most likely to get a ticket from, 2/9-2/10. To account for difference in volume of cars, they averaged the violation count per 100K miles driven.

In reverse order:
10. VW Gti
9 Mercedes C63 AMG
8. Pontiac Grand Prix
7.Acura Integra
6 Mercedes CLS AMG
5. Scion XB
4 Hummer H2
3 Scion TC
2. Toyota Camry
1. Mercedes SL Class


Interesting that the Mustang or Corvette did not make the list, but 3 Mercedes did.


Thoughts?

[AppleBonker]

I'm intrigued. But, sadly enough, I'm most intrigued by the data collection and analysis. I went to the Forbes site to see if I could get a better answer, but how were the violations normalized over 100k miles driven? Wouldn't it need to be number of violations per 'x' number of miles driven in that car? How do they know how many miles I've driven in my car?

[s0m3th1ngAZ]

Their method of normalizing the results doesn't make sense to me either...

[Dittoz7]

No civic...what?

[AppleBonker]

Their method of normalizing the results doesn't make sense to me either...

I'm sure it's probably viable, I would just like more details. I'm by no means calling the results garbage. I am legitimately interested in how they analyzed the data.

<---- definitely a nerd

[ThatGuyRoger]

scion tc?

[wingFeather]

<---- definitely a nerd

Nothing nerdy about it, more like educated. Statistics can easily be skewed.

scion tc?

Girl car. Women drivers. Think about it.

[Jesda]

Grand Prix? Rental cars being flogged?

[Chaotic_Warlord]

That article is full of fail. I would also like to see how and where they got their statistics, it would seem that the writer has a chip on her shoulder towards men based on the her opening sentence. where are the sports cars like the Camaro, Mustang, Corvette, and Challenger (and Charger). No G35's, 350z's, Cobalts, or SRT4's or any of the sport compact cars? She also says in the article that SUV's and Minivans aren't on the list because people who are hauling people (and children) alter the way they drive... LOL. I don't know where the study was done but around here soccer moms in SUV's and minivans speed and drive very aggressively. It would seem from reading the comments under the article would agree that the article is full of BS. In fact one of the comments is from a veteran cop who says that attitude plays more of a factor in whether a ticket is issued way more than the car being driven.

[tigersharkdude]

Cars mostly to get a ticket, pretty much anything with decent power. I have never saw a C63 AMG pulled over on the side of the road. Also ad to my list all exotics: such as Ferrari, Lamborghini, Koenigsegg, etc, etc

Mustang

Corvette

Camaro/TA

Supra

[MinisterofDOOM]

Pontiac Grand Prix owners have something in common with Golf, Eclipse, and Celica owners: all of them have the same mental disorder that leads them to believe their cars make them better than everyone else on earth. Definitely not surprised to see the GP and Golf on that list.

[Dattebayo]

The test results are based on actual tickets given vs. the type of car driven when said ticket was received. Then they listed the top 10 most-reoccurring cars.

"Cars most likely to get ticketed" to you may mean it includes some kind of Human bias toward how fast a car is or looks, but this article is not using a system based on human preconception. It's based on facts, so deal with it!

[Bubba1]

That article is full of fail. I would also like to see how and where they got their statistics, it would seem that the writer has a chip on her shoulder towards men based on the her opening sentence. where are the sports cars like the Camaro, Mustang, Corvette, and Challenger (and Charger). No G35's, 350z's, Cobalts, or SRT4's or any of the sport compact cars? She also says in the article that SUV's and Minivans aren't on the list because people who are hauling people (and children) alter the way they drive... LOL. I don't know where the study was done but around here soccer moms in SUV's and minivans speed and drive very aggressively. It would seem from reading the comments under the article would agree that the article is full of BS. In fact one of the comments is from a veteran cop who says that attitude plays more of a factor in whether a ticket is issued way more than the car being driven.

Incorrect. There is no emotion to the survey, Warlord. If anything this data shows that people that own Corvettes or Camaro's or Mustangs or newer Minivans that are less than 10 yrs old, tend recognize their visibility to cops better than say, AMG Mercedes owners, and drive accordingly resulting in fewer tickets per 100,000 miles driven than these models. If the study included 20 yr old cars, it would have included a lot more young peoples cars, and the results would likely have been different.
As info, contrary to your conclusion about aggressive soccer moms in minivans/SUV/s. The least ticketed list includes Buicks, minivans, and pickups. Also among the least ticketed is the Tahoe/Suburban, despite being mechanically similar to the Hummer.

The survey was done by "Quality Planning", a San Fran based company that validates policyholder information for automobile insurers. And as far as the comment by the cop that says attitude is more of a factor. If you think about that, that supports the results. An AMG mercedes or Hummer owner seems more likely to have a chip on his shoulder when pulled over for a ticket than a soccer mom in a Sienna.

[AppleBonker]

The survey was done by "Quality Planning", a San Fran based company that validates policyholder information for automobile insurers. And as far as the comment by the cop that says attitude is more of a factor. If you think about that, that supports the results. An AMG mercedes or Hummer owner seems more likely to have a chip on his shoulder when pulled over for a ticket than a soccer mom in a Sienna.

Exactly this. I may question how the data was normalized, but it was collected after the tickets had been issued. This is not saying that cops try to ticket these cars more often, it is saying that when cops issue tickets it happens to occur more often with these cars. And what I think Joel was getting at is that this says a lot about the *typical* attitude of drivers of these vehicles.

[IBCoupe]

I'm with Bonkers. This statistic, on its face, is not very helpful without understanding the reasoning that got us there.

The test results are based on actual tickets given vs. the type of car driven when said ticket was received. Then they listed the top 10 most-reoccurring cars.

It has to be a bit more complicated than that: I bet there are way more tickets handed out to Honda Accords than there are to AMG's. Reoccurence, in and of itself, can't be the deciding factor because my basic understanding of the distribution of various makes and models runs contrary to the results of the list - even if AMG-drivers get ticketed in a disproportionate number, they can't possibly overcome the cars that didn't make the top 10 list by sheer numbers.

[AppleBonker]

IBC, that is precisely why I questioned the normalization technique. They said it was normalized per 100k miles, but I would like to know how. While I don't doubt the validity of the method, I'm having a hard time imagining exactly how they came up with the numbers to support mileage. Without that information, I have a hard time fully accepting this report. While I don't doubt there is truth behind it, all data analysis is performed to support a point, and without the method it's hard for me to jump on-board and support the conclusion. Just my $0.02

[themadscientist]

officer, zis is a problem. I cannot afford to get annozer ticket in mein porsche.

[IBCoupe]

Bonks, I wonder if they're using self-reported data from car dealerships.

[AppleBonker]

I somehow doubt that. Would a company validating insurance data actually call the dealers? I just know that my insurance company has no idea how many miles are on my car.

[IBCoupe]

I suppose that one could compile a database of all the insured cars (at least from major insurers) on the road, combine their insurance purpose (commuter, pleasure, etc.) with estimated annual mileages for those purposes and the speeding tickets reported to the insurance providers... That way the data you're using comes from the people who want it analyzed and you've got a rough estimate of the miles driven.

[AppleBonker]

But even that doesn't tell the whole story. My car has always been insured for the same purpose. And about a year ago I moved so that my one-way commute mileage went from roughly 33 miles to roughly 3.5 miles. I don't know that an estimated mileage would be accurate in my case, and it stands to reason that it wouldn't be in many others as well.

[IBCoupe]

Did you contact the insurance company the get your premiums lowered because of the move? If not, they might still think you live that far away. I don't know if you've tried to get an insurance quote for a commuter car, but they try to estimate how much a year you drive by asking you the distances to and from your workplace and/or school. They lowball me (because they don't know about my trips to NY almost every weekend) and predict 22,000 miles/year between school and work.

So it probably balances out. You're under, I'm over, and they've got it roughly right.

[AppleBonker]

Actually, I asked them about this and they told me there weren't different rates.

[IBCoupe]

Weird. Maybe try a different insurer. I look into changing carriers every six months (I also look into what the current carrier will give me) to optimize my savings.

[93coupe]

The owners of all of the vehicles on the list, with the exception of numbers 7 and 2, are generally douchey and likely drive as such, resulting in a ticket.

I do kind of miss those old "Wider is better" Grand Prix commercials, though.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I do kind of miss those old "Wider is better" Grand Prix commercials, though.

I always found it ironic that Pontiac, a brand famous for making a big deal about "wide" built a car as tapered as the G6.

[Jesda]

ALL UP IN MY RIDE
SIPPIN SIZZURP...
etc etc etc


I think its a pretty solid list. I bet Camrys get ticketed for hogging the left lane at 40mph. :P