Carbon Fiber sheets

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

im planning on doing a little DIY CF accenting/paneling on my dash and control panel, mostly putting a cf panel over the empty change holder under the head unit. Eventually i plan on mounting gauges in the cf i place here. is it possible to buy CF in already hardened sheet form that i can custom cut. if so does anyone kno where i could get this? any suggestions/comments are welcome.

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

no suggestions? has anyone ever delt with customizing CF?

Post by **jEzTeR** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

I saw a car at a show that I went to last month that had alot of CF pieces on his car.It was an old Camaro so I asked him where he got those pieces.He said that he made them out of some material that was not CF.He cut it to fit then put a glase on it to harden it.It looked real good except for a few places that were wavy.I don't know if thats RICE or not because its not CF but it cant be much more heavy than the OEM pieces and looked good.I will try and get a bit more info on it soon.

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

im wondering if this is the same stuff i saw in a guys engine bay during a right up of his swap. he had some sort of carbon fiber fabric type stuff that he layed over the strut towers and engine bay then he put some type of gloss on it which made it hard and it looked real good. heres a pic:http://cars.ign.com/articles/394/394426p1.html at the bottom of the page

Post by **op.tic** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

TurboKA37 wrote:im wondering if this is the same stuff i saw in a guys engine bay during a right up of his swap. he had some sort of carbon fiber fabric type stuff that he layed over the strut towers and engine bay then he put some type of gloss on it which made it hard and it looked real good. heres a pic:http://cars.ign.com/articles/394/394426p1.html at the bottom of the page

holy crap thats cooland idea has project cars? lmao

Post by **jEzTeR** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

Yes that looks like the same stuff.Now where do you get it?LOL and how much is it?I was under the impression that it was not really CF?

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

That looks like real carbon fiber to me.

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

http://www.board.mr2faq.com/sh...60321

(If you haven't already, subscribe there, very good car forum)

Post by **jEzTeR** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

LOL..Yes john we all read it..HeHeHe.J/K;) The person that I talked to said that he got several sheets of it and that it was like any material,(which CF is untill molded)he had never seen CF in person.I think that he got it off E-bay.

Post by **jEzTeR** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

What he had was this I think.Ill try and get ahold of him tomorow and see.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... egory=7295

Yes its cheep and no way your putting that in the engine bay.

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

hmm..... well the guy with that s14 on ign seems to have no money limit(if u read his journal of the swap ull kno what i mean) so i think it is real cf

Post by **jEzTeR** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

Yeah I think so also..I'm still digging for the real deal.It looks awesome and if its not carzy high price I may look into getting some.The CF dash kit for the 2k2 Altima looks great on a Black on Black car.I may get that cheep stuff and see what I can do with it.

Post by **jEzTeR** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... gory=34056 This person says this is CF.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... egory=2563

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

i was just wanting a small peice of already hardened cf maybe about 1 sq. ft. and is cf like this cutable?

Post by **jEzTeR** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

I would think that you would be better off with the cloth.Then you can just make a mold off of the OEM piece.Put on the clear to harden and your set.It may take a bit of practice to get it right though.

Post by **Megaseth** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

The stuff the guy from IGN has is aircraft quality stuff. it was a roll that he layed down and then applyed the resin too. i dont know how cheap it is, but i know it will cost you a pretty penny.

Post by **Nathan** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

Get cloth...a good fiberglass supply place or maybe even west marine will have the cloth and epoxy...then you just make a mold, put the mat over it, wet it out, apply another piece, wet it out...etc. etc.

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

ive been looking at prices. if u go to the link that lessthanjakejohn gave to the MR2 boards it has a couple usegule sites. for a piece that is 2' by 3' its about 20 bucks

Post by **MasterMan** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

isnt real carbonfiber parts baked? or like.. pressur coated in an oven.. i was watching a thing on mclarins (sp?) and how they make the body.. and its all compressed and such.. i dunno

Post by **DAEDALUS** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

I used CF for a year during my last year in college. Carbon fiber comes either dry or pre-preg. The dry stuff is much cheaper and requires that you apply epoxy resin to it to stabilize it, as the guy did inside his engine bay. Pre-preg (pre-impregnated) comes in rolls and has a thermoset resin already applied. It must be kept in a freezer to keep the resin from setting. This is the stuff that needs to be baked. It doesn't work quite as well on compound curves like the dry stuff does. The dry stuff is similar to fiberglass cloth for working with, but a little stiffer. For making flat trim pieces, you can use either form. Lay it down on a flat platen or mandrel and vacuum-bag it down to make it flat and even. Because the pre-preg needs to be baked too, it is usually done in a fancy oven called an autoclave. The dry stuff is likely your better bet, though it won't cure quite as nice as the pre-preg will. One problem you will have is cutting the finished product. The resin is tough and the CF very stiff. Nowhere near as bad as cutting Kevlar, though, which is damn near impossible. The best thing for cutting composites on a budget is a circular tile saw. But of course this only cuts straights. You'll be on your own for cutting rounds and fillets.

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

do u think a high speed dremel would work for cutting it?

Post by **DAEDALUS** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:14 pm

With the abrasive cutting wheel yes... *BUT* if you've ever worked with fiberglass you know there are serious safety and health hazards that go with the work. CF is the same way...cutting it with a high-speed anything poses problems. At the very least you need to wear a respirator, and if the dust gets on your skin it can be very irrtating. I can't tell you how many CF splinters I pulled out of my hands, even though I always wore gloves. That's why a tile cutter is good...they have a water pump to constantly wet down the cut/work area to keep fibers out of the air and in the basin.

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