car wont start!!!

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nismokid
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ok heres the problem last night i drove my car around and everything was fine when i dropped my gf off last night the car wouldnt start. i wasnt too mad i got it started by push starting it. its not the battery, i replaced the starter this morning and it did the same thing, i turn the key and nothing. no clicking nothing. the thing thats puzzling me is that when i push start it, its fine, it runs and drives perfectly ok but the car wont start??????? is it some sort of relay, fuse, anything like that??? anyone had this problem before? thanx in advance for the help


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Antjaw
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Do you hear a clicking when you turn the key.. Does the dash check engine come on when you first turn the key to the acc position?... Just trying to determine if the problem is in the steering column or past that...

Stock-S13
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antjaw he previously said there was no clicking, well when i my alternator died out it didn't make a clicking noise maybe you should get volt-o-meter and test with the car(battery) on and off. I believe it should be 12 somthing off and 14 on, with the alternator supplying some power. correct me if iam wrong.. but thats what i did to diagnose my problem.

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Antjaw
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Sorry bout the clicking question.. I need to practice my speed reading :).Correct me if I am wrong.. But if the alternator went bad.. then the car would have to get its spark from the battery.. which wouldnt last long.. and if the batery had enough juice to run the spark.. then it would have enough to crank her over...meaning that the battery was not dead... meaning that the alternator was keeping it charged.. meaning that the alternator isnt bad... How ya like that bunch of babble!!!

nismokid
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all the lights in and out of the car are as bright as they usually are, and the car runs for as long as you want it when i get it started. im thinking maybe a sensor or relay switch??? im trying to avoid going to the dealer and them charging me for the diagnostic(kinda broke right now)

nismokid
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anybody???

remedy127
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i have the same problem when i turn the key it clicks the first few times then nothing. i go hit the starter and turn the key again and get the click then nothing. if i hold the key long enough it will click anout after 30 secs of holding it. had this same prob about 2weeks ago took the starter of and had it tested and everything checked out fine so i put it back on and it started. also if i mess with the cable connecting from the battery to the starter long enough it will start. could it be a silenoid or another switch? oh and a has a new battery about 2 months old

DAEDALUS
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Bad starter relay?

s14kaibigan
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Ok, hopefully, I'll be able to give ya little help on finding out what your prob may be. Tools you'll need will be some 10ga wire (to jump with) and a multimeter (a meter that'll measure atleast DC volts, amperes, and ohms). You may need additional tools to get you to certain places to check your components, but that's up to you to figure out what. Here we go:Try jumping the solenoid (Battery terminal to Solenoid terminal) and see if that jumps the starter. If not, then jump from the B terminal to the Motor (actual starter) terminal. If that works then you've got a bad solenoid. If still nothing then you know you've got a bad starter. If its either one that is bad, you'll have to replace the unit as a whole. If it works jumping the Solenoid terminal from the Battery terminal, then the problem is somewhere in your key ignition circuit. I see in your sig that you no longer have your S13 but still have the crx, so I'm guessing that your having a problem with the crx. I don't know exactly what is in your key ignition circuit, but I do know that you're going to have a switch, fuse, park/neutral safety or clutch safety switch, and all the wiring inbetween that could go bad. To check the switch, use a voltmeter and tap into the sending wire and turn the key. To check the fuse, use an ohmeter to check for continuity (visual test does not always work). To check the safety switch, tap into the line and check for voltage after using the switch, and the wiring use an ohmeter for continuity. This should cover the basics on diagnosing the electronical problems with starting your car. Like I said, those are the basic components, and you may have additional components that you will need to test. Just check your FSM/Haynes/Chilton to see what else is involved. If you don't have one, I highly suggest that you invest in one.Apperantly if you can push start it, you have fuel, spark (after starting), and mechanical. Hope this helps.

kjfale
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you might just wanna check the battery cables to see if they are corroded. thats what happened to my rx-7 once, i replaced the starter and everything, and then just look at the positive battery cable and there were about 2 of the strands left to connect it. the car would run fine when i got it running, but it would never start itself. so you might just wanna check that.


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