Car turns over but WILL NOT START!!!!! Fuel problem??

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clever240sx
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Ok i had a bad injector and was running on the 3cylinders and so i replaced that. But now the car doesnt even try to start and is getting an *** load of gas. I took the spark plugs out and they were covered in gas. Sometimes it does fire but just smokes and dies but that rarely happens. I need to know what to do because a guy is coming to look at my car this weekend!! Tomorrow!!THanks please help!!!



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clever240sx wrote:Ok i had a bad injector and was running on the 3cylinders and so i replaced that. But now the car doesnt even try to start and is getting an *** load of gas. I took the spark plugs out and they were covered in gas. Sometimes it does fire but just smokes and dies but that rarely happens. I need to know what to do because a guy is coming to look at my car this weekend!! Tomorrow!!THanks please help!!!
If you pull the plugs and they are covered in gas then obviously you don't have a fuel problem. Sounds to me like a spark issue so look into that first. Check your distributor as per the FSM and make sure everything is installed correctly.

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Check all the orings especially the lower orings, adn then measure the resistance across all the injectors. if it reads anything other than 11-12 youve got a problem.

then check over ignition. you can start a KA with no sensors (maybe you need CAS) so thats not your problem at least...

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I would change the plugs, your 240 looks like mine but what exactly is a Zenki?

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Sowwi this is a late response... but maybe it'll help if you still don't know whats wrong..

Since you pulled out the spark plug and it had alot of gas..on it... im guessing its your injector...or bad fuel mix..

Theres aloooooot of reason of why your car won't start::

Bad Fuel Mix: Air to gas ratio is off...Engines getting air but no fuel?....Your air intake may be clogged...or...enough fuel not enough air....basically the fuel system might be supplying too much or tooo little fuel into the mix (with air) that it won't combust properly ex. water in gas tank so gas won't burn..

Lack of compression:

-Your piston rings may be worn out...Air and fuel leaks during compression-Intake and Exhaust valves aren't sealing properly-Your gaskets breaking down... so it's causes a hole between the cylinder head and the actual cylinder

Lack of Spark:

-Spark plug or wire is worn out-Wires cut?

-Ignition timing is off....CAUSES ALLLLLLOT of problems

-Mb..bearings on the crankshaft is worn out...btw..mksure your timing belts still on there...mb ur timing belt snapped.. n didn't know..-your valves don't open and close at the right times-Ran out of oil?

Let me know wassup... im all curious now lol

good luck:)

*Ja

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I believe it is a spark issue... I had one the other day.

After washing my car it wouldn't start. It would just crank over and over.

I pullled and checked the fuel filter so see if it was getting fuel, good

I pulled to check the #1 plug, it sparked

I pulled the distributor cap and noticed that the contacts on the inside where white and corroded, also the rotor was heavily corroded and pitted. I cleaned them up with a wire brush and re-installed it all. Car fired right up. I proceeded to the dealer and bought a brand new cap adn rotor for $25 and some change.

If one of your injectors went out and you replaced it that wouldn't cause a fuel problem. Even if that cylinder was getting hosed with fuel it wouldn't stop the other three from starting the motor. I'm pretty sure it's spark related.

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if you replace an injector, and you fail to replace (or even place) the orings on the bottom of the injector, you'll literally be just dumping fuel into the motor. so it is a common thing to happen after replacing an injector.

but, the fact that he said the plugs were hosed with fuel sounds like a common thing ot happen after you tr to start it for a while.

so i agree with spark on that. ive had the fuel dumping condition, and the other three cyls will fire, it'll just run very noticably rough. its not very likely, but the plugs could have become fouled so bad from trying to start that they couldnt.

Did you try starting the car with your foot to the floor? my car used to have a no start condition like this. Its always worth a shot to try:

go and pull the fuel pump fuse out. then crank the car adn start it. If the car didnt start before, it jsut mght start now, but not guarenteed. then it'll die, and try it again. then put the fuse back in and see if it fires up. sometimes you'll just flood it too bad, especially if you didnt replace those o-rings.

So once you look at ignition stuff, give this a whirl, i had this problem for almost a year, right before i entirely lost one of those lower o-rings

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wow, this is a over one month old thread. Since then ive fixed the problem and sold the car..But thanks for the great info!!

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clever240sx wrote:wow, this is a over one month old thread. Since then ive fixed the problem and sold the car..But thanks for the great info!!
So what was the problem then.... if you are going to post at least come back with the fix so that anyone else who comes up with the same problem can research and get an answer.

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The #3 injector was stuck open. And that was the new one that i had replaced. Anyways gasoline just mixed in with the oil. So i ended up changing the oil about 3 times in 3 days.

So if this happens to yo when you are getting too much fuel, Do not drive it. Fix the problem and change your oil!

thanks


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mine car is doing the same thing i doubt is the fuel i think im is the ignition

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my car cranks but won't start also.so I took off the first sparkplog and no gas was on it.there is gas in the fual filter thow.

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i got a 91 and i think it might be having timing trouble. i set it according to chilton book and i beleive it's close anyway. the car ran fine before someone took the timing chain off to "fix it" and it hasn't run since. it gets spark it gets air but i'm not convinced about the gas. i ran a clear tube from the fuel filter and it had plenty of gas at that point but when i crank it and it doesn't start, i don't smell as much gas as i think i should. any ideas?

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garlendrix wrote:i got a 91 and i think it might be having timing trouble. i set it according to chilton book and i beleive it's close anyway. the car ran fine before someone took the timing chain off to "fix it" and it hasn't run since. it gets spark it gets air but i'm not convinced about the gas. i ran a clear tube from the fuel filter and it had plenty of gas at that point but when i crank it and it doesn't start, i don't smell as much gas as i think i should. any ideas?
mine just did the same thing. i was driving in down town atlanta. and it stalled and hasnt started since..... i get to look at it today.

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i went outside to check it out and the m!@#&* F@#$&* started right up!!!


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