Car and Driver's Bias towards BMW?

[JazzyG]

This month's C&D has a comparison of the G versus a BMW 328. Once again the editors chose the Bimmer by a very close margin of 2 points. Upon close examination of the scoring, the Bimmer won by some very subjective and bias scores. C&D indicated the 0-60 times at 5.5 seconds. Every other publication has the G doing much better than that. Maybe BMW has C&D on the payroll?

Consumer Reports, in their latest issue, rates the G 95/100 and the 328 a 78/100. Their rating is much more in line with reality and reflects the importance on reliability over prestige.

[SVTCOBRA]

This month's C&D has a comparison of the G versus a BMW 328. Once again the editors chose the Bimmer by a very close margin of 2 points. Upon close examination of the scoring, the Bimmer won by some very subjective and bias scores. C&D indicated the 0-60 times at 5.5 seconds. Every other publication has the G doing much better than that. Maybe BMW has C&D on the payroll?

Consumer Reports, in their latest issue, rates the G 95/100 and the 328 a 78/100. Their rating is much more in line with reality and reflects the importance on reliability over prestige.

People who buy cars for prestige have self-image problems....or a-holes.

How many times have I seen a bmw parked in the firelane blocking traffic in front of the local grocery store!!! Have never seen a G parked there.

[telcoman]

This month's C&D has a comparison of the G versus a BMW 328. Once again the editors chose the Bimmer by a very close margin of 2 points. Upon close examination of the scoring, the Bimmer won by some very subjective and bias scores. C&D indicated the 0-60 times at 5.5 seconds. Every other publication has the G doing much better than that. Maybe BMW has C&D on the payroll?

Consumer Reports, in their latest issue, rates the G 95/100 and the 328 a 78/100. Their rating is much more in line with reality and reflects the importance on reliability over prestige.

Try doing some research to try and determine how much in advertising $$$ C&D accepted from each.

Then you should be able to answer your own question.

Even Consumer Reports can be subjective but at least they are not influenced by advertising revenue.

0 to 60 time may be important to some but to others reliability, maintenance costs, and comfort are of greater importance.

Telcoman

[Poyzinous]

Its not just you. Most people notice. I actually was a subscriber to Car and Driver for 2 years. They are Biased to BMW and Honda vehicles. They even admitted it before. I was with automobile magazine for 5 years. Really liked them. They dont seem to bias anyone. I've cursed out C&D for their biasing. I actually told them that if the Cobalt was delivered to their HQ in Honda Badging, it would win in a comparo vs a civic rebadged as a cobalt. Just because. They criticize little things negatively on certain cars, but when BMW or Honda does the same thing or slightly different, they dont criticize, but praise it. They'll say a bimmer or honda interior is cozy and comfy , but when someone else does it in the same class of car, its tight and restrictive, not spacious enough, etc. Read carefully. You'll notice it.

[poms302]

^+1. They (C&D) have been doing this for years. I remember reading them admitting to it also.

[av8or]

that's why i go with motortrend... coty was the gtr nissan... i think they got it right...

[Poyzinous]

Motor trend is cool. They seem (to me) to be the most unbiased and fair people. As far as the GTR goes, that should have been a unanimous COTY worldwide. Its not just because i'm a nissan product fan, but because the achievements and undeniable appeal of the car was amazing, and still is, and will be for years to come.

[tollboothwilley]

I like Motortrend. My subscription expired and they keep sending me stuff to renew it...I just never seem to get around to it.

C&D sucks... biased reviews are not reviews at all.

[pippen99]

I agree on your opinion of C&D, Motor Trend is OK, but Road and Track rules. I have been a subscriber for nearly 25 yrs and would'nt do without it. Peter Egan maybe the funniest writer in all of auto journalism. I find their reviews to be the fairest of all the car magazines I've sampled. Great articles and fantastic photagraphy!

[JazzyG]

I agree on your opinion of C&D, Motor Trend is OK, but Road and Track rules. I have been a subscriber for nearly 25 yrs and would'nt do without it. Peter Egan maybe the funniest writer in all of auto journalism. I find their reviews to be the fairest of all the car magazines I've sampled. Great articles and fantastic photagraphy!

I believe R&T is owned by C&D.

[pippen99]

I believe R&T is owned by C&D.

You are correct. Still I find R&T to be far superior. Apparently the editorial staff operate independently of each other. Actually they are owned by the same media conglomerate Hachette.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

I just renewed my subscription to Motor Trend... 2 years for 5.00 lol

DJ

[Focusedintntions]

I picked up that mag today and read through it..i think the most bs portion of the entire bmw post was it's performance....I6 with 200 hp doing 0-60 in 5.9....BS...200 hp can't get 3500lbs+including driver and fluids to 60 in under 6.5 seconds....

I mean hell an RSX type S with 205 hp and only weighing 2900lbs can't do it....so how is the bmw with 500lbs more able to do it??

Lies i tell you...maybe a 335 can get down in those numbers or lower...but the only way a 328 is getting acceleration like that is if it's a 128....

[Poyzinous]

BMW's have their own dragstrip at Car and Driver. It goes down a hill.

[BrandAidDesignG35]

I hate biased magazines....

I like tunerwerks, but I don't know if they're still in business... Motor Trend is on my desk right now.

[marlin29311]

BMW's have their own dragstrip at Car and Driver. It goes down a hill.

[bman3333]

I picked up that mag today and read through it..i think the most bs portion of the entire bmw post was it's performance....I6 with 200 hp doing 0-60 in 5.9....BS...200 hp can't get 3500lbs+including driver and fluids to 60 in under 6.5 seconds....

I mean hell an RSX type S with 205 hp and only weighing 2900lbs can't do it....so how is the bmw with 500lbs more able to do it??

Lies i tell you...maybe a 335 can get down in those numbers or lower...but the only way a 328 is getting acceleration like that is if it's a 128....

The straightline numbers for the BMW 328 were total BS. No way can a 220 hp car that weighs 3300 lbs go 0-60 in 5.9 or run a 14.3 second 1/4 mile. Did the writers check for a bottle of nitrous?

[LuckyLuke]

This forum is bias against Beemer. I know that for sure..

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

BMW's have their own dragstrip at Car and Driver. It goes down a hill.

This is freaking great



LoL

DJ

[telcoman]

This month's C&D has a comparison of the G versus a BMW 328. Once again the editors chose the Bimmer by a very close margin of 2 points. Upon close examination of the scoring, the Bimmer won by some very subjective and bias scores. C&D indicated the 0-60 times at 5.5 seconds. Every other publication has the G doing much better than that. Maybe BMW has C&D on the payroll?

Consumer Reports, in their latest issue, rates the G 95/100 and the 328 a 78/100. Their rating is much more in line with reality and reflects the importance on reliability over prestige.

I don'tread C&D but I saw this

http://fish.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/10/car-nuts/

Telcoman

[smockers83]

C&D's HQ is here in Ann Arbor, MI. It's a pretty wealthy town with Bimmers and better cars all around. Plus, some of the people here are kinda weird, but I love the town. On top of that, AA is known to be snobbish. So, does C&D fit that description? I think so.

[G_whizz]

BMW's have their own dragstrip at Car and Driver. It goes down a hill.

DAMN!!

That is the second quote from you in a row going in my sig.

[Poyzinous]

Well I'm glad you guys liked it. Whenever I can throw in a witty one-liner I will.