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well guys, a friend of mine has a black 35oZ, and he decided one day to see how fast he could get her up to (no we dont do this often) anyway, car and driver claims a top speed of (i believe 153mph) well with him and I in teh car, we tapped at 158mph before we slowed, and i must admit, the car was very stable even at thta speed, you could feel the nose lift up however and it got somewhat scary, as things are then going by so quick and your vision begins to tunnel somewhat, anyway, figured id share my experience, and now of course, i want a Z even more, his is now on 2o's :ylsuper and looks VERY sexy


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i guess no one found this cool other than me

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Did you use a radar gun to determine top speed like C&D, or were you reading the speed off the speedometer of the car (which are almost never 100% accruate)?

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boileralum00 wrote:Did you use a radar gun to determine top speed like C&D, or were you reading the speed off the speedometer of the car (which are almost never 100% accruate)?
we were just going by the speedo, which i know isnt always THAT accurate, and i wasnt pointing a finger at car and driver, i just thought it was interesting that we got it all hte way up to 158

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Very cool, Nizmo. I had mine up to about 125 on the long back straight at VIR, with lots of pedal left. Very stable. I was still breaking it in so I didn't push it hard. I'm sure I'll find the top speed next time I go there. I'll advise. But I won't do it on the street - too dangerous.

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158 won't be entirely accurate. . but it should be within a few mph of where u actually are. .

hey. . something I found kinda interesting, is a handheld GPS unit. . you can get a very fast speed reading from one. . may wanna borrow one to see :D

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yea it was very fun, a lil scary, but there was no one out there but us, so his job was to hold onto the steering wheel and look straight ahead, while i checked the speedo, and it read 158, so give or take 3mph or so, and the car was stable even at those speeds, he says he still had a smidge of pedal left, and after climbing up to almost 16o, i figured we'd better back off, dont know how long our luck would last ya know, i doubt we'll ever do that again

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That'd be f'n awesome. . I'd love to take a car that fast. . I've been to 135 (indicated) b4. . but that's it. . :D

At over 100 mph, speed seems to exponentially FEEL faster by each mph.

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actually i dont feel much until after about 12o or so, i occasionally take my car up there to run her a lil bit, but that Z was amazing, and the sound was o so sweet

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Take along a hand held GPS if you decide to do it again. Speedometers only have to be calibrated to within 10% of true speed. So even though the speed-o read 158, you could still have been going only (only? ;)) 143.

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AZ-ZBum wrote:Take along a hand held GPS if you decide to do it again. Speedometers only have to be calibrated to within 10% of true speed. So even though the speed-o read 158, you could still have been going only (only? ;)) 143.


They're not generally off that far. . the speedo in my rodeo was off 1 mph at 60 mph. . (59 was actual speed). . . I checked the speedo in my S14 at 100 mph (with a GPS unit), and it was only off by a bit over 1 mph. :cool:

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actually we were using the digital speedo as well, the digital speedo read 158mph and the analog one read just under 16o, so its actually pretty accurate, i talked to a guy last nite who used a gps, and at 125mph, his digital speedo on his 35o was only 1mph off

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Even so, speedometers still work off a percentage of accuracy in a given speed range. Critical speeds are generally from 25-85. Similar, but at the same time different, than how a scale is calibrated to be closest to accurate throughout a specified range...the range the scale is intended to work in. A bathroom scale isn't very accurate when weighing fruit, but is good at weighing people. A semi-truck scale isn't very accurate if you stand on it, but is closer to accurate with a loaded tractor-trailer on it.

Remember that the indicated speed is being figured by revolutions of the drivetrain. A change in tire pressure(as well as a change caused by heat), tread depth, or both, or other factors, all equate to how many revolutions the drivetrain makes....affecting indicated speed.

Today's speedos are quite accurate, but even so, there is still a margin, or percentage, of accuracy/inaccuracy.

-Phil

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very good points SmithSR, i do know the tire pressure (35 psi at all 4 corners) but as far as the other factors, such as if hte road was PERFECTLY flat, well im it wasnt

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I missed the part also where you said his car was on 20s - if you make the effective overall diameter smaller, then the indicated speed will be higher than actual speed...

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his car wasnt on 2o's at the time,he had the stock18's then

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Is the car bone stock? If not he could have a modification that would allow removal of the top speed limiter. Also, 20's on a sports car is ridiculous. I understand most 350z owners get 19's only because stocks are 18's anyway, so at least get a lil' bigger, but 20's is overkill. They belong on an SUV or a 4 door, not a sports car.

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he has 5k worth of audio/video stuff in it, and he wanted 2o's, it looks good, but he's not into the car to get every ounce of performance out of it (like i would :)) and the car as BONE STOCK


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