Cant go into gear, car starts to move as i shift into gear, rev grinds then stal

[s13gebala]

I have a s13 with an SR swapped

I have the stainless steel clutch line (from master to slave)No clutch damper, i removed it.

Heres the weird problems im having that are keeping me from test driving my car for the first time..

While pressing clutch pedal I cant go into any gear(except rev) and as im forcing my shifter to go into first the car slowly starts moving but i just cant pop it in!!

Same goes for the other 4 gears, car loses REVS the higher the gear goes.

Now reverse is scary! It will go into reverse and grind HORRIBLY!! Then the car stalls.

I changed the transmission oil today, it was doing it before also i thought this would help..

Then i bled the system with my friend and it did not help eighter..

Tried adjusting the pedal, one time i did it to much and the pedal was to INOther time the pedal was to Out and it did not help..

Im confused and sick of brake fluid smell! HELP

[carkook]

Replace clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder and re-bleed.

[s13gebala]

the slave was working fine.. so the master was most likely working fine if the slave was working fine also..

when i was bleeding the clutch my buddy pressed the clutch 3 times then held it, when i released the valve the slave cylinder decompressed.

im pretty sure thats what it is supposed to do when i let fluid pressure out but just to give you guys more info..

im really lost

[carkook]

You bled it wrong, When you have the little bleeder valve open, you dont pump the pedal. Loosen valve, put the pedal to the floor, tighten valve, let the pedal release, over and over again.

[s13gebala]

he pumped it 5 times, while the valve was closed, then when he held the pedal down i released the valve

[nifares240]

bleeding the clutch is not the same as bleeding the brakes.

[ViolentRunning13]

Your clutch is gone bro.

[s13gebala]

are you sure?- bleeding clutch is not same as brakes

i dont really know if my clutch is gone, it is engaging but its as if it cant disengage

[ViolentRunning13]

This just happened to me. Car will go into gear when its off but while running its like you are trying to put it into gear without engaging the clutch. My clutch was cracked and gone when I got it out.

[s13gebala]

f*** i really hope its something else than the clutch i would hate to drop the transmission i would prob end up having to take out the whole engine..

[livinglegend2100]

f*** i really hope its something else than the clutch i would hate to drop the transmission i would prob end up having to take out the whole engine..

since when does replacing a clutch involve pulling the motor?

[s13gebala]

I figure it will be hard to pull this rwd transmission down to replace the clutch..

anyone else have more info?

[Koshin]

just change your clutch, problem solved

[flying_monkeee]

You don't need to pull the motor to remove the transmission, lol. Get a FSM or something...

I've had the same problem recently... chances are since you removed your dampener, you put too much stress on the pivot bolt, in which you will have to remove the transmission anyway. Removing a transmission is no biggie, just have some friends help you out when you remove it.

I would replace the clutch if it's the clutch that your motor or car came with when you bought it. It's never a bad idea to change it out anyway.

Opt for a NISMO pivot bolt, they're around 50 bucks i think... I can't remember. I have one and it's great. They're stronger than the OEM shiz.

If it's not the pivot bolt, it should be the slave cylinder. If all else fails, it's the master cylinder.

[JdrifterCA]

I have almost the same problem. I bled my clutch cylinders the same way. Pressing clutch in a few time, hold it, release valve. Repeated for about a hour, and the pedal does feel weird right now.

Comfirmation on how to bleed clutch cylinders please.

My problem is, i hear loud grinning sound when clutch peda is pressed, cannt get into gear(for a while this problem occurs occationally), when i release my clutch pedal it has a small delay before it pops back up(like .001 sec, but one can feel it). Are you expericing the same problem like me?

[s13gebala]

alright guys, can someone write how to bleed the clutch correctly?

Im going to do that first before i start spending money on a clutch..

there goes my steering wheel setup X[

[S13Joe]

You need a new clutch.

[carkook]

We did a clutch job on my buddies s13, bled it like you bleed a break. It worked perfectly for us.

[95Gstman]

REPLACE THE CLUTCH MASTER CYLINDER AND IF THAT DOES NOT WORK THE SLAVE!!! (and yes I meant to yell.) Do not just assume it is the clutch. This same thing happened to me and it was the clutch master cylinder. It acts that way ie. going forward even though the clutch pedal is depressed because it has an internal leak. Trust me. Try those two thing before you go dropping the transmission, replacing the clutch, just to figure out it still does not work. That is a lot of $$ and time wasted. Also, when bleeding the clutch find a hose that fits snug on the end of the bleed screw and get a cup/bottle/whatever of brake fluid and submerge the end not attached to the bleed screw in it. This will prevent any air from being sucked back up after you relive the pressure and are going to close the screw.

[gabo]

^-------Sound advise.

[s13gebala]

:\ how could it be the master cylinder if the slave is moving when the clutch pedal is pressed

[95Gstman]

If the master cylinder has an internal leak, which I suspect it does. It will move the slave cylinder, but will not move it enough to fully disengage the clutch. The master and slave are not very expensive or hard to replace so like I said before, I would really try that instead of dropping the transmission right away.

[carkook]

Because u stated it worked fine before, its leading me to believe that there is just air in the system. This is a hydraulic system, so if any air is in the system it will compress the air instead of doing any real work.

It will still be enough to move the slave cylinder, but under load, like when it is in place instead of doing its job and pushing the throw out bearing into the pressure plate release fingers it just compresses the air in the system.

The right advice is already been giving to you many times, now go do it.

[s13gebala]

holy s***, i dropped the transmission, and shtting there is a 3 pluck looking clutch with 6 springs, pressure plate had grape colored parts that were still shinny

problem was the clutch plate was rusted with the pressure plates flywheel looking section.. or at least i think it was the problem

the next thing that happened was lame, kinda hard to take those 14mm flywheel bolts off until i took a flashlight and looked at the pattern of the bolts

a crazy f***ing flywheel i weighted it and it was 9.8 pounds and then 9.2!!

Is this even possible