Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !?

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Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !?

Postby Master Chief » Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:58 pm

For the past week iam reading everywhere and everything related.I have to Software, i read the instructions - i know what both systems can do.

Still, i cant deside.

Both are plug and play with base maps for the S14, etc...

I need to be able to tune and use the system myself, to tune it on the road. For argument sake - I DONT HAVE AND CANT GET ACCESS TO DYNOS IN MY COUNTRY.

I need to be able to get a good drivability for dayli use, from the tune.I want to keep all the auxiliries - AC/HEATR/DASH Lights and Gauges/etc...

I would like to be able to hook up an EGT to log, and offcours KNOCK as well would be nice - even if i need to use some kind of external 0-5V applifier.

I would like to know from people that have used one or both of the system, what do they think and recomand.

I dont care about other options, like PFC etc... only the two above.

Thanks.


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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (Master Chief)

Postby doridori23 » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:39 am

AEM EMS's have a long history or being a royal pain in the arse for the SR motors so I would go with a Haltech but if your just looking for a daily driver why not go with a piggyback system from APEXi or GReddy?

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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (doridori23)

Postby Master Chief » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:40 pm

The PFC is too limited for me, not to mention a pain in the *** getting the software ETC. For the price, you get much more from AEM or HALTECH.

As for piggy bag, i had the Greddy Ultimate - BRAND new, and just sold it - never got it out of the box.I couldnt find any help on base maps or anything.... desided its too much of an unknown.

AEM and Haltech are widely used for our cars, so there is plenty of info.They are superiour to the PFC so thats why iam trying to deside between them.

I know that many have the AEM, but so far, and i posted on a few forums, i cant get even 1 AEM owner to comment on this tread.

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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (Master Chief)

Postby 510six » Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:32 am

I have an AEM EMS in my car after a serious PITA setup, I couldn`t be hapier.

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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (510six)

Postby ZL-Auto » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:23 am

For nissan Sr's you have to buy a pickup wheel from AEM for your CAS. If you call AEM tech support they offer a modified pickup wheel but DO NOT include it in the box when they well an EMS.

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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (Master Chief)

Postby Master Chief » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:47 pm

well, why no votes for AEM, then.

Also excus my french but, what is PITA ?

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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (Master Chief)

Postby Geno750 » Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:47 pm

Master Chief wrote:well, why no votes for AEM, then.

Also excus my french but, what is PITA ?
Pain in the a**

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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (Geno750)

Postby 510six » Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:06 am

The AEM would be my choice, I ended up using Ford VR sensors instead of the Nissan optical , at the time the 12-1 wheels for the CAS were not avalable . Several 300zxtt at a friends shop were running AEM and having timing errors, one was a Bonneville car that ended up setting the record for a stock bodied Japanese car .That was the car that AEM had the first 12-1 wheel for the optical sesor made for, as for myself another friend who was a tech at a Ford dealer suggested the Ford components .Today, I would just use the CAS and use the AEM 12-1 wheel.

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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (510six)

Postby atcdrifter » Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:08 pm

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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (Master Chief)

Postby iheartmyturbo » Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:55 pm

I have heard that the aem systems are very hit and miss with the sr's. but beyond the hear say point balnk the haltech is the better system. the aem is 16x16 bit while the haltech is 32x32. that's twice the tunability of the aem. and it has virtually all u would need i.e 2 step, boost control, knock sensor, if i'm not mistaken multiple maps for various boost etc. however the installation of the haltech WILL NOT be plug and play. other than that i have never heard of any one having problems with the haltech.

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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (iheartmyturbo)

Postby iheartmyturbo » Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:16 pm

crap i lied the haltech is a plug and play system. hands down haltech.


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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (Master Chief)

Postby steve shadows » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:37 pm

AEM is garbage if you are comparing it to Haltech.

AEM was never designed to even work properly with the Nissan CAS.

Haltech was from the beginning.

Haltech is easier to use interface wise and I have dyno tuned serveral (I am a dyno tuner in socal for SR/Nissan and some BMW apps) and they are MUCH better systems.

AEM was rushed to market and is made to sell more than anything...

Haltech is made to make power...

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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (steve shadows)

Postby the converted » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:08 am

Saying one was designed to make power and the other one is pretty stupid, why else would you go with a standalone. The AEM that I got came with the 24 1 wheel in the box, and after changing the setting for that, really was plug and play.

I don't know about the Haltech, but I know the AEM supports "auto tuning" which will get you in the right ball park. It can also log EGT straight the the ecu without any interface as long as you're using their thermocouples (not k types). You can also set EGT based timing compensation if you are so inclined.

I'm not knocking the Haltech, because I honestly haven't played with it. I have an AEM and have enjoyed it with no issues, so take that for what it's worth.

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Postby johngriff » Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:58 pm

The replacement wheel is such incredibly lower resolution than the OEM, that its basically taking a huge step backwards in tuning accuracy.

Steve knows what he's talking about, he has been around the block a few times.

Auto Tune has been a haltech feature since even their last generation of ECU's, so has egt monitoring and ignition correction.

Check out steve's site, he knows his stuff.

http://www.shadowerks.com

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Re: Cant deside - AEM or HALTECH E8 !? (the converted)

Postby luv2spedup » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:55 am

the converted wrote:Saying one was designed to make power and the other one is pretty stupid, why else would you go with a standalone. The AEM that I got came with the 24 1 wheel in the box, and after changing the setting for that, really was plug and play.

I don't know about the Haltech, but I know the AEM supports "auto tuning" which will get you in the right ball park. It can also log EGT straight the the ecu without any interface as long as you're using their thermocouples (not k types). You can also set EGT based timing compensation if you are so inclined.

I'm not knocking the Haltech, because I honestly haven't played with it. I have an AEM and have enjoyed it with no issues, so take that for what it's worth.
i got an aem on a 480rwhp sr and i love it

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Postby johngriff » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:57 am

a 60-1 will not flow enough air to make that much output on an SR... so are sure about the statement you just made?

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Postby luv2spedup » Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:58 pm

johngriff wrote:a 60-1 will not flow enough air to make that much output on an SR... so are sure about the statement you just made?
60-1 with a big back housing at 28lbs of boost(and that too with race C16) with all the supporting mods.... do the math bro, im not some young punk who is trying to make up s**t, i have been playing with sr's since 1999-2000 and my car is set up for drag. but thanks for asking

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Postby johngriff » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:50 pm

For anyone interested in getting in on our current group buy on haltech stuff, go here and sign up.

http://www.rpsport.net/groupbuy

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Re: (luv2spedup)

Postby sr_240sx » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:09 am

I also have a 60-1 with my SR just in case. But going back to the ? I would say Microtech!!!!!

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Postby Blown240sx » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:48 pm

NISTUNE?

Or do you want a MAP based tuning system?What are your power goals?

Nistune is like 500 bucks with the ecu chipped and software.

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Postby johngriff » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:03 pm

The OP already went haltech through us a couple years ago, and his car is uber sick!

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Postby imaboa » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:21 am

Go for the Haltech. I've got one in my car, and is hands down better than the AEM for the SR cars.

The map resolution is great, it works well with the Nissan Optical Cam Sensor. Plenty of user definable inputs and outputs.

You need to check out the new Haltech Platinum Boxes. Platinum is LIGHTYEARS ahead of the E8/E11 stuff. Software is very easy to use, and the datalogger is better than sex.

I have alot of experience with the Haltech stuff, and can get you on the right path if you need any help, or have any questions about the software/hardware.

email me, [email protected]

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Postby johngriff » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:52 am

imaboa wrote:Go for the Haltech. I've got one in my car, and is hands down better than the AEM for the SR cars.

The map resolution is great, it works well with the Nissan Optical Cam Sensor. Plenty of user definable inputs and outputs.

You need to check out the new Haltech Platinum Boxes. Platinum is LIGHTYEARS ahead of the E8/E11 stuff. Software is very easy to use, and the datalogger is better than sex.

I have alot of experience with the Haltech stuff, and can get you on the right path if you need any help, or have any questions about the software/hardware.

email me, [email protected]
John,

Nice first name!

and....

NICE DYNO! Email me your contact info, and I will start giving my customers referrals to you for tuning! Always looking for dynodynamics in other regions of the country to give referrals to!

John

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Postby johngriff » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:50 pm

We are having a STUPID CHEAP Black Friday Sale!

Haltech Kits too LOW to post in the forum! Only until tomorrow @ 2pm pst.

visit the Site:http://www.rpsport.net to see pricing!

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