Can we list EVERY difference between each package?

[Wyld Bill]

Do the packages seem consistant or are they "What ever you get" type packages? Can someone list EVERY difference between a S Versa & a SL Versa? Also what is EVERY difference between a SL with & w/o the convenience package. What changes with the sunroof package? WHo is putting in the sunroofs,..Nissan or someone in the US when they get here?

[Legacy40k]

Well, I can say this much...

the US and Canadian S are different and have different options, and the same with the SL.

For example, in the US.. ABS is apparently really hard to find, in Canada, the SL comes with it standard.

As for everything, the nissan website has the options of each.

[Ever Victorious]

Upgrading from S to S Power Package:You get power windows, locks, keyless entry, and rear door pockets.

Option on the S:ABS. Available in any S trim... with or without Power (though it's hard to find without), with manual or auto.

Upgrading from S Power Package to SL:You get cruise control, 15" alloys, a center armrest, a 6-disc in-dash MP3 changer w/ipod jack, and all of your armrests and door rests are made of a soft-touch material.

Option on the SL:ABS. Available only on base SL trim without other packages. Hard to find. ABS seems to be available more frequently on S models, because it's incompatible with the convenience package on SL's.

Upgrading from SL to SL Convenience:You get steering wheel mounted audio controls, leather wrapped steering wheel, pre-wiring for satellite radio (you cannot get a factory unit WITHOUT this, even if the factory tuner is added after the fact), Intelligent Key system, and voice-command Bluetooth calling system.

Upgrading from SL Convenience to SL Convenience/Sunroof/Audio/Satellite:the last 3 packages are not available separately of each other (except satellite, if you install it on an SL Convenience after it comes on the lot).You get either XM or Sirius tuner/antenna unit, a power sunroof, upgraded speakers and a Rockford Fosgate sub.

I won't get into the Sport option yet because it's not available yet.

[Wyld Bill]

RIght click, highlight, print..Thanks!

[Wyld Bill]

Oh wait,..where does the 6 speed fall in all of this? I'm telling ya you can't GET a 6 speed with al the stuff. Am I right?

[Ever Victorious]

Oh wait,..where does the 6 speed fall in all of this? I'm telling ya you can't GET a 6 speed with al the stuff. Am I right?

Yes and no. The 6-speed theoreticaly can be made with everything, however it does not look like Nissan is producing them at the moment. I don't think I could have looked at so many different configs and not seen a single loaded 6-speed if they exist...

So if you want the 6-speed and sunroof, your choices are:

1) Wait until Nissan starts producing them2) Have one added at the dealership3) get the CVT (by far the easiest option).

I think you could make the case to whatever dearler you work with to give you a big chunk of change off a CVT, since it's not your preference, and your preferred car isn't available right now.

[Wyld Bill]

Yes and no. The 6-speed theoreticaly can be made with everything, however it does not look like Nissan is producing them at the moment. I don't think I could have looked at so many different configs and not seen a single loaded 6-speed if they exist...

So if you want the 6-speed and sunroof, your choices are:

1) Wait until Nissan starts producing them2) Have one added at the dealership3) get the CVT (by far the easiest option).

I think you could make the case to whatever dearler you work with to give you a big chunk of change off a CVT, since it's not your preference, and your preferred car isn't available right now.

LOL that just happens to be my next course of action. My wife WANTS a loaded standard. If we can get a CVT loaded for $1000 off then well do that,..well I have to get her to agree to it.

[COVersaSL]

FYI: 6MT is CVT...

[Rockhound]

FYI: 6MT is CVT...

Again, this isn't true. The 6MT is a conventional manual 6-speed gearbox, whereas the CVT is a 'gearless' transmission that uses essentially belts and pulleys to constantly alter the ratio needed. There's no need to shift a CVT - there's nothing to shift to.

Go to howstuffworks.com for a better description - they have a page describing both a manual-gearbox and CVT.

[The Edge]

FYI: 6MT is CVT...

UMMMMMMMMMMMMM WRONG ! ! ! ! 6MT.....MT = MANUAL TRANSMISSION

CVT= CONSTANT VARIABLE TRANSMISSION.

2 totally different transmissions.

[ms_stylin_versa]

yup... diff

[COVersaSL]

I am starting to think you guys MIGHT be right but I know that this trans doesn't feel like any other manual I have driven.. I will ask the dealer if someone doesn't beat me to it. I can't find anything that really says either way. I knew how it worked before I ever even saw a versa... I used to have a subaru with an ECVT trans... I may have been misinformed by the not-so-knowledgeable sales guy but I think it is possible??
Modified by COVersaSL at 2:40 AM 5/26/2007

[Ever Victorious]

No, it's a manual transmission. Plain and simple. Your sales guy is either a moron or a liar, which would not be surprising in either case.

It may feel different than other transmissions you have driven simply because it is a european transmission. Unless you've driven a lot of Renaults, it will feel different.

[KimberKenobi]

2) Have one added at the dealership

For the love of all that is holy and sacred, please do not do this option...

IMNSHO(in my not so humble opinion)
Modified by KimberKenobi at 9:16 PM 5/26/2007

[COVersaSL]

Why Kimber? They will warranty it.

[Rockhound]

I am starting to think you guys MIGHT be right but I know that this trans doesn't feel like any other manual I have driven.. I will ask the dealer if someone doesn't beat me to it. I can't find anything that really says either way. I knew how it worked before I ever even saw a versa... I used to have a subaru with an ECVT trans... I may have been misinformed by the not-so-knowledgeable sales guy but I think it is possible??

Wait, you're still not sure that you're wrong? Not to be rude here, but you need to read up a little more on these transmissions, no matter what you've driven in the past, because it's clear that you're confused.

Your salesman was BS'ing you...because he figured you didn't know any better. Mine told me that the "1.5L" engine was all-new. Am I still holding out for better proof that the 1.8L is in fact 1.5L? Come on.

A CVT is gearless. A 6 speed MANUAL transmission has SIX gears that you select with the stick shift. You press in the clutch to disengage the transmission from the engine, move the gear selector, and then re-engage by letting the clutch out again.

The only reason you haven't found anything that "says otherwise" is because no one would ever confuse a 6MT for a CVT.

The only CVTs that you shift are the auto-manual setups, such as in the Altima. This is a computer controlled "manumatic" paddle shift that simply has pre-defined ratios that you can jump to by pressing a button. You must realize that the very nature of 6MT and CVT are completely incongruous.

[Rockhound]

Drivetrain - 4-speed automatic transmission - 6-speed manual transmission - Xtronic CVT™ (Continuously Variable Transmission)

So here's the transmission options from Nissan's website. Wouldn't they advertise that the 6MT was CVT if that was so? I'm trying not to get hung up on this, but I find it hard to believe that there would be confusion in this matter.

[Ever Victorious]

Why Kimber? They will warranty it.

That's a matter of opinion. First off, yeah, they carry a warranty. However in MOST cases the warranty is shorter than the time that the add-on sunroof is likely to take to leak (which has been very common on aftermarket roofs throughout automotive history).

Second, If you missed it in another thread, Kimber had a nightmare with the fit and finish of her aftermarket roof, and they refused to do anything about it, saying that "eh, most people wouldn't notice."

[Rockhound]

That's a matter of opinion. First off, yeah, they carry a warranty. However in MOST cases the warranty is shorter than the time that the add-on sunroof is likely to take to leak (which has been very common on aftermarket roofs throughout automotive history).

I thought it was pretty common knowledge that aftermarket sunroofs were trouble. If they don't leak, they usually have poor fit and finish. A quick Google search on the matter brings up plenty of dissatisfied stories on the matter.

My buddy bought a used Accord with an aftermarket sunroof that, amazingly, doesn't leak...but the headliner has come loose all around the seal, and this is a '01 mind you. It looks pretty tacky, and he'd rather not have the sunroof now.

[ThirstyRoss]

A 6 speed MANUAL transmission has SIX gears that you select with the stick shift. You press in the clutch to disengage the transmission from the engine, move the gear selector, and then re-engage by letting the clutch out again.

the 6spd MT in the Versa actually has seven gears, not six. Don't forget Reverse!

[Rockhound]

the 6spd MT in the Versa actually has seven gears, not six. Don't forget Reverse!

Doh!

[COVersaSL]

Breathe man.. it's ok I was probably just mislead... The only reason that I thought that it could be true is that CVT trans has been around a long time. So I thought that maybe instead of metal gears inside that maybe it had the band style mechanism it it like a CVT. I guess it was weird of me to think that technology could change??

I didn't even remember the sales guy saying that (the first time I met him 2 days prior to buying) until I was reading something on one of these forums, so it was definately not why I bought the car.. If I would have remembered it at the time I might not have bought the car.

"That's all I have to say about that" -Forest Gump

Oh and Rockhound... Thanks for telling me how to shift I wasn't sure what that third pedal was for.

[Rockhound]

Oh and Rockhound... Thanks for telling me how to shift I wasn't sure what that third pedal was for.

No problem! I figured that we'd have to start pretty basic considering you confused the 6MT for CVT, or worse, took the salesman at his word.

[Ever Victorious]

OK, boys, that's enough.

[Demonspawn]

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