Can the M37/47 be categorized apart from the M35/45?

[neo_rambo]

Hey Admin, I haven't been here for a while. Is there a way you could break the m37 and m56's in a different category from the m35 and m45's? It's difficult to sort through all the posts to find what I need. Thanks

[merlinq2]

What is an m47?

[jonlex99]

I think he means M37/M56

[merlinq2]

Yeah I know- I was hoping that I missed some news of a new launch of some monster compact 4.7 liter v8. wishful thinking I guess

[neo_rambo]

Sorry I just corrected it

[anach]

Bumped to try & get some attention. I think separating them out would help a lot!

[Ilya]

Bumped to try & get some attention. I think separating them out would help a lot!

Why? What do you have trouble with?

The search function if very useful...just put the model of the car in the query to limit the results to your model.

Even though the engines are different, etc. much of the same technology applies as well as general maintenance. Splitting the cars up would just create a mess.

[szh]

Hey Admin, I haven't been here for a while. Is there a way you could break the m37 and m56's in a different category from the m35 and m45's? It's difficult to sort through all the posts to find what I need. Thanks

This question comes up occasionally ... and, yes, we have considered it periodically.

The thing is that the cars are "close enough" that - with the exception of the engines and a few suspension differences, etc., - most of the other aspects of the car are quite identical.

So, posts and issues and questions and threads about one model are often very related to the others. Often, people with one model can provide assistance with another, since the issues are likely to be the same.

Plus, some models (like the M45 or 56) might not have enough posts to keep it moving well ... fewer owners, fewer NICO members with those models.

Finally, many of us M owners like reading about other close members of our family and splitting would make it necessary to wade through more forums ...

As a result, thus far, we have still chosen to keep all the M models in a single sub-forum here at NICO - the number of readers and number of posts does not warrant a split yet. This may change in the future, of course, but for now ... single M forum.

Z

[myother45isalesbaer]

I have to vote with Szh. He listed many reason not to break them apart and I agree. Us old M owner's want to hear about new M problems, solutions, issues, etc. We are few in number, but like to read the posts of newer owners and offer some advice. If you break them apart, its almost akin to separating brothers or sisters. So my OP is no! Leave them in the same category, don't break the family up!

[seymore4]

Exactly... there aren't enough of us out there in M's to begin with.. let alone guys who actually mod them! but then again isn't that why we love them?

[SmoovC]

As a former M45 owner, and a current M47 ( ) owner, I like the combined format. Hopefully I am able to contribute and be helpful to owners of both. I agree with szh's logic, and as stated, there is not enough "M" owners to warrant sub-forums.

[GaryREM]

"...The thing is that the cars are "close enough" that - with the exception of the engines and a few suspension differences, etc., - most of the other aspects of the car are quite identical..."

This statement is a little hard to believe. What are the aspects of the Y50 and Y51 that are 'quite identical'? Almost nothing. The OP was talking about having a separate forum for the Y51 (not breaking out m45s and m56s). I like to read about the Y50s but, frankly, the discussion about Y50 mods or problems almost are universally not applicable to the Y51.

[szh]

This statement is a little hard to believe. What are the aspects of the Y50 and Y51 that are 'quite identical'? Almost nothing. The OP was talking about having a separate forum for the Y51 (not breaking out m45s and m56s). I like to read about the Y50s but, frankly, the discussion about Y50 mods or problems almost are universally not applicable to the Y51.

Ummm ... perhaps you have a point, but I think if you look at the Service Manuals for the Y50 and Y51, you will see that "almost nothing" is off-base for sure! Indeed, there are shared parts between the M37 and the G35/G37 family too (clearly less than within the M family).

Much of the content of these manuals for these various M models are essentially identical ...

Yes, the Y34 is very different, yes, but even there, we do not foresee splitting them out into a separate sub-forum. Particularly since the number Y34's sold in the US is low and the number still of the road is low and number of NICO members with Y34 is low (compared to Y50 and Y51 owners) - so a split would create a mostly dead sub-forum.

Anyway, a link to the manuals is in my sig in my first post in this thread.

Finally, like I said, we have considered this issue more than once in the past (you can search for the older discussion ), and the decision has still been "not at this time", so for the moment, the answer is still "no split". And, yeah, this can be revisited again in the future ... perhaps once the M is replaced by some flavor of "Qxx" whatever the darn "Q" number ends up being for the current M models. Please do feel free to remind me when that happens!

Z

[myother45isalesbaer]

I still have to agree with szh's logic. Not just because he is the moderator of this forum, but he also has a brain trust of highly regarded and certified technical guys that he can tap into. Some of you new posters may want to reconsider his recommendations. I know from experience he does the research and does not post his decisions on a whim, but he uses certifiable facts. We can't all have our specific cars broken into separate categories. If I went that way all I would want to hear about are 2003-2004 M45's. As one poster said, we like to read about the newer models so we can learn from you and maybe we have something to offer in problem solving as these cars are very similar.

[GaryREM]

I don't want to belabor this, but I would be happy if the title of a model specific thread would simply provide the 3 letter model designator so I could quickly determine whether it might be of interest. The great thing about this group is that it's very active. Unfortunately that means sifting through a lot of posts every few days